The song "Skyscraper" and Led Zeppelin

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  • Jetstream
    Foot Soldier
    • Dec 2011
    • 609

    The song "Skyscraper" and Led Zeppelin

    Maybe I am off the mark but I do not think so, and maybe it was done unconsciously when Dave and Vai recorded it but the foundation of the song "Skyscraper" seems to be based on the template of the music "Achilles Last Stand" by Led Zeppelin and even more so that Van Hagar song "Pleasure Dome" (and why is that even the titles by Hagar make one feel stupid when just typing them out) is too... which made me think that Dave and Ed should have done that Zeppelin song justice in writing an inspired tribute to that song together
    Last edited by Jetstream; 05-19-2015, 01:47 AM.
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  • Dave's Bitch
    ROCKSTAR

    • Apr 2005
    • 5293

    #2
    Dave and Vai recorded songs unconsciously? Now that is talent
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    • Anonymous
      Banned
      • May 2004
      • 12749

      #3
      Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
      Dave and Vai recorded songs unconsciously? Now that is talent
      After recording Eat 'em & Smile, they were probably unconscious the whole time.

      Cheers!

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      • Jérôme Frenchise
        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
        • Nov 2004
        • 7175

        #4
        Originally posted by Jetstream
        Maybe I am off the mark but I do not think so, and maybe it was done unconsciously when Dave and Vai recorded it but the foundation of the song "Skyscraper" seems to be based on the template of the music "Achilles Last Stand" by Led Zeppelin
        Now this is quite far-fetched, really...

        If there is one plain to hear zeppelinesque tune on that album, that's "Damn Good".
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        • Anonymous
          Banned
          • May 2004
          • 12749

          #5
          Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
          Now this is quite far-fetched, really...

          If there is one plain to hear zeppelinesque tune on that album, that's "Damn Good".
          This & the Super Bowl thread is a prime example of what happens when you over-listen & over-think a half-dead, semi-obscure band whose glory days only live on in the heads of their Alzheimer-ridden fans.

          But maybe I'm being too negative. I tend to do that, for some reason.

          Cheers!

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          • FORD
            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

            • Jan 2004
            • 58934

            #6
            No Kristy comments yet? She must still be wakin' and bakin'
            Eat Us And Smile

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            • PETE'S BROTHER
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Feb 2007
              • 12678

              #7
              Originally posted by Imapus Sylicker
              This & the Super Bowl thread is a prime example of what happens when you over-listen & over-think a half-dead, semi-obscure band whose glory days only live on in the heads of their Alzheimer-ridden fans.

              But maybe I'm being too negative. I tend to do that, for some reason.

              Cheers!
              well stop
              Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!

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              • cadaverdog
                ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                • Aug 2007
                • 8955

                #8
                Originally posted by Jetstream
                Maybe I am off the mark but I do not think so, and maybe it was done unconsciously when Dave and Vai recorded it but the foundation of the song "Skyscraper" seems to be based on the template of the music "Achilles Last Stand" by Led Zeppelin and even more so that Van Hagar song "Pleasure Dome" (and why is that even the titles by Hagar make one feel stupid when just typing them out) is too... which made me think that Dave and Ed should have done that Zeppelin song justice in writing an inspired tribute to that song together
                I hear what you're saying when I listened to those songs. Neither one was all that familiar to me. I'm more of a CVH fan than a solo Dave fan. I had the FUCK cd but I guess I didn't listen to it too many times. This song here used more than the template for "Achilles"

                It ripped off the whole song
                Beware of Dog

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                • cadaverdog
                  ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 8955

                  #9
                  Sounds kinda like this don't it?
                  Beware of Dog

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                  • Jetstream
                    Foot Soldier
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 609

                    #10
                    Originally posted by cadaverdog
                    I hear what you're saying when I listened to those songs. Neither one was all that familiar to me. I'm more of a CVH fan than a solo Dave fan. I had the FUCK cd but I guess I didn't listen to it too many times. This song here used more than the template for "Achilles"

                    It ripped off the whole song
                    Thank you! Listen to the foundation, the stagger of the composition, the drum runs on "Skyscraper"... it is there alright and "Pleasure Dome" is following the same shit to build the song and it is not a illusion, and basing anything on Zep is a good thing... and yes on Heart
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                    • FORD
                      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 58934

                      #11
                      Ann & Nancy would be the first ones to admit that they were big Zep fans. Even now, they can deliver those songs arguably better than Page & Plant can anymore.....

                      Eat Us And Smile

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                      • binnie
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • May 2006
                        • 19145

                        #12
                        Those first couple of Heart albums are superb.........
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                        • cadaverdog
                          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 8955

                          #13
                          Originally posted by FORD
                          Ann & Nancy would be the first ones to admit that they were big Zep fans. Even now, they can deliver those songs arguably better than Page & Plant can anymore.....
                          Plant has made it clear he doesn't want to do any more Led Zep reunions so that point is moot but here's Zep doing the same song just a couple of years before the one you posted was done. The members of Heart are quite a bit younger than the members of Zep so it's not really a fair comparison but I'd still rather hear the real band than a cover version by a band who probably wouldn't have made it nearly as far as they did had they not blatantly ripped off the real band. Heart might have been a known commodity in the pacific northwest but they didn't make the big time until thet released Barracuda which is still "arguably" their biggest hit.
                          Beware of Dog

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                          • cadaverdog
                            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 8955

                            #14
                            I coulda just said you're full of shit and here's the proof. Zep would have blown Heart off the stage that night.
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                            • FORD
                              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                              • Jan 2004
                              • 58934

                              #15
                              You think Barracuda was Heart's first national hit? Better mix a little bit of gingko biloba in with your next bowl of weed, your memory is going.......



                              a few others in between there too......
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