How the Site is Run

[Seshmeister]

You haven't learned shit. You push porn. Quit fucking sugarcoating it "a couple of threads of nude models." You are morally bankrupt. There is no use in talking to you. None.

Not on this no because if I had deleted those threads based on a single abusive complaint from someone on drugs the next day you probably would have come back and demanded the removal of any posts containing the Hot For Teacher video.

[Terry]

It also lowered the amount of shit people were willing to put up with from abusive posters. That and anonymity became more difficult because of FB groups and the spilling over of friendships. People who worked in sensitive jobs couldn't be seen as being in the same space as some of our problem posters and also didn't want to risk some of the crazies attacking them via employers. I regret that we didn't ban the handful of people causing all the trouble earlier but in the long term there was an inevitability to it all. None of this is new and for the last of the trolls to try and pretend banning a few out of control idiots caused a decline is ludicrous and pathetic.

The thing is the nature of the forum means that most of it is still on here and especially nowadays anyone would be shocked at some of the shit that was posted.

And that's what was conveniently overlooked with the whole 'Sesh ruined this place due to overbanning' re: waxing nostalgic over the higher volume of daily traffic here ten years ago...

There were some real headcases here back in the day - back when it was the Wild West and anything went - that were bent on doing some pretty nasty stuff to others via online tomfoolery. THAT was the type of shit that contributed to more than a few members bailing as much as the proliferation of your run-of-the-mill trolls.

[Kristy]

If you are looking for the discussion on how the site is run, trolls and other assorted fun... Check the Webmaster Feedback forum.

Welcome to Dave's final tour thread...

Carry on.

You're really part of the problem. No wonder your own website failed.

[Terry]

Most people seemed to think that we didn't ban enough soon enough.

Far more people left due to trolls than were ever banned.

There were actually almost no permanent bannings and you had to be acting like a total fucking dickhead repeatedly to get one.

I can think of at least a dozen off the top of my head - cool folks who posted daily, longtime members - who after a decade of troll flame wars said "fuck it" and decamped permanently.

[ELVIS]

I'm almost inclined to thank Krusty...

[Kristy]

I don't give a flying fuck about it. Organize a poll get people to vote on it, win and I'll happily delete it all.

[Coyote]

The internet is the biggest cess pool there is.

If you know what the term "bug chaser" or "pozzed" means without looking it up on Urban Dictionary, you've seen some dark shit.

[Nitro Express]

Zzzzzz. This has been argued to death already. It’s Larry Flynt vs Blah Blah Blah all over again. If you don’t like something then stay away. The internet is the biggest cess pool there is. The Roth Army is pure as the driven snow compared to what’s out there. Go smoke something and meditate on some happy thoughts. It’s a dirty world. Even the Bible admits it’s tainted.

[Seshmeister]

I may take a look at the stats though because I'm pretty sure you may be the only person that even went to those threads in years.

[Seshmeister]

I don't give a flying fuck about it. Organize a poll get people to vote on it, win and I'll happily delete it all.

[Kristy]

You haven't learned shit. You push porn. Quit fucking sugarcoating it "a couple of threads of nude models." You are morally bankrupt. There is no use in talking to you. None.

[Seshmeister]

Also you will have read already above how we ruined the site because we banned a few people for crazy shit like photoshopping photos of peoples family members taken from other sites or suicide pics or all sorts of nasty nasty shit so deleting some topless old pics because of the objections of one really abusive poster who was on some really heavy drugs didn't seem like a thing to lose sleep over.

[Seshmeister]

I find that to be hypocritical. This site for quite some time pushed and supported outright porn. You alone seemed to support it. I don't do the Facecrook crawl. Never have. Never will. I have my own problems with that site and its ever increasing invasions into the private sector of people's lives. Am I abusive? Quite so. I'll admit it. I've been a total asshole on here at times either purposefully or joke s that backfired or I was on some heavy, heavy drugs but I never attacked anyone here except for maybe that porn posting asshole who had a lot of fucked up personal problems of his own. So while on that subject, what made you think that a site that devotes itself to the fandom of Van Halen would also be a site that would promote and consume pornography? Is it just a "guy thing?" Personally I have never dated or been serious with a porn user, as I figure any man who is so coarse and misogynistic and stupid as not to see the evil, ugliness and exploitation of pornography is not someone I want in my reality. I also have concluded, from discussions with many women, that porn men are shitty lovers, in part because they are acting out porn scripts, and because they are off in their heads in a porn fantasy instead of being fully present in their bodies with their partners and are not experiencing the reality of taste and smell and love and touch and the totality of intimacy.

That set me right the fuck off off around here because you slave SESH actively participated and defended that shithead and banned me for my views. Oh, yes you did. Just as I choose not to put junk food in my body, I choose not to feed my mind with the toxic garbage of pornography. That alone is on you. I’ve never found it remotely interesting, never had any desire for it. Never. What I do see, loud and clear, from the perspective of a sexual violence survivor, is the abuse of women and children writ large and turned into entertainment which is far from “harmless”. And I took a lot of abuse from certain men on here that when I criticized this site for its unnecessary porn content, they took it personal themselves so I attacked back, If anything, the reach and accessibility of internet pornography has normalized sexual terrorism against women and girls and yes, you are/were a part of that. And yes, I choose that word deliberately. So many women are terrorized on the streets, in popular culture and online each day due to porn culture. So you see, its not just the abusive posters, but they abusive mods who don't see this as a problem.

I'm glad this site was blocked on the public libraries and those shitty coffee shop chains I have posted from due to its porn content. I have opted out of porn on my internet account but it’s surprising what gets through. I just don’t want this shit in my home or anywhere else, certainly not in any public space. I found allowing porn access on this site that was meant to be a fandom site was abhorrent. So I lashed out. I apologize if I hurt some people on here who having opposing views but god damn it I consider this place my vent for my deep, deep hatred of Jimmy Page not another stupid site that reinforces the belief that women are inherently empty objects just floating around aimlessly until a man wants to use her. Here's a clue slave SESH: Women are not empty, we are whole and complete just as we are and that too is why a "decline" in your site exist. Not just fucktards like myself.

Link to anything you can find where I was pushing this because I don't think that's true but I'll apologize if you can find me being out of order on something like you describe.

"You alone seemed to support it"
Only in your mind where you started it as a campaign against me.

To be honest I never used to go to that part of this site which was basically a couple of threads of nude models. I inherited it when we took over in 2015 it had been there for 16 years previously. When you started to attack that I actually had no problem with the opinion at all but railing against a non public part of the site as though this was the only nude pictures on the internet or some hardcore pornography was a bit of a stretch and also you went about it like a crazy person.

Also I'm sorry but if you think you have never dated a man who has used porn then that is completely fucking laughable and ludicrously naive of you unless you have literally not dated.

[Nitro Express]

Porn is a freak show.

[Kristy]

People who worked in sensitive jobs couldn't be seen as being in the same space as some of our problem posters and also didn't want to risk some of the crazies attacking them via employers. I regret that we didn't ban the handful of people causing all the trouble earlier but in the long term there was an inevitability to it all. None of this is new and for the last of the trolls to try and pretend banning a few out of control idiots caused a decline is ludicrous and pathetic.

I find that to be hypocritical. This site for quite some time pushed and supported outright porn. You alone seemed to support it. I don't do the Facecrook crawl. Never have. Never will. I have my own problems with that site and its ever increasing invasions into the private sector of people's lives. Am I abusive? Quite so. I'll admit it. I've been a total asshole on here at times either purposefully or joke s that backfired or I was on some heavy, heavy drugs but I never attacked anyone here except for maybe that porn posting asshole who had a lot of fucked up personal problems of his own. So while on that subject, what made you think that a site that devotes itself to the fandom of Van Halen would also be a site that would promote and consume pornography? Is it just a "guy thing?" Personally I have never dated or been serious with a porn user, as I figure any man who is so coarse and misogynistic and stupid as not to see the evil, ugliness and exploitation of pornography is not someone I want in my reality. I also have concluded, from discussions with many women, that porn men are shitty lovers, in part because they are acting out porn scripts, and because they are off in their heads in a porn fantasy instead of being fully present in their bodies with their partners and are not experiencing the reality of taste and smell and love and touch and the totality of intimacy.

That set me right the fuck off off around here because you slave SESH actively participated and defended that shithead and banned me for my views. Oh, yes you did. Just as I choose not to put junk food in my body, I choose not to feed my mind with the toxic garbage of pornography. That alone is on you. I’ve never found it remotely interesting, never had any desire for it. Never. What I do see, loud and clear, from the perspective of a sexual violence survivor, is the abuse of women and children writ large and turned into entertainment which is far from “harmless”. And I took a lot of abuse from certain men on here that when I criticized this site for its unnecessary porn content, they took it personal themselves so I attacked back, If anything, the reach and accessibility of internet pornography has normalized sexual terrorism against women and girls and yes, you are/were a part of that. And yes, I choose that word deliberately. So many women are terrorized on the streets, in popular culture and online each day due to porn culture. So you see, its not just the abusive posters, but they abusive mods who don't see this as a problem.

I'm glad this site was blocked on the public libraries and those shitty coffee shop chains I have posted from due to its porn content. I have opted out of porn on my internet account but it’s surprising what gets through. I just don’t want this shit in my home or anywhere else, certainly not in any public space. I found allowing porn access on this site that was meant to be a fandom site was abhorrent. So I lashed out. I apologize if I hurt some people on here who having opposing views but god damn it I consider this place my vent for my deep, deep hatred of Jimmy Page not another stupid site that reinforces the belief that women are inherently empty objects just floating around aimlessly until a man wants to use her. Here's a clue slave SESH: Women are not empty, we are whole and complete just as we are and that too is why a "decline" in your site exist. Not just fucktards like myself.