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    Slain Soldier's Mom Stages Protest Near Bush's Ranch

    Slain Soldier's Mom Stages Protest Near Bush's Ranch
    CRAWFORD, Texas (Aug. 6) - The angry mother of a fallen U.S. soldier staged a protest near President George W. Bush's ranch on Saturday, demanding an accounting from the president of how he has conducted the war in Iraq.

    Supported by more than 50 shouting demonstrators, Cindy Sheehan, 48, told reporters, "I want to ask George Bush: Why did my son die?"

    Sheehan arrived in Crawford aboard a bus painted red, white and blue and emblazoned with the words, "Impeachment Tour."

    Her son, Casey, 24, was killed in Sadr City, Iraq, on April 4, 2004. He was an Army specialist, a Humvee mechanic.

    Sheehan, from Vacaville, California, had been attending a Veterans for Peace Convention in Dallas. She vowed she would camp out as close as she could get to the president's ranch until Bush comes out and talks to her.

    Local law enforcement officials were keeping Sheehan four to five miles away from the ranch's entrance.

    "If they won't cooperate, we won't," Capt. Kenneth Vanek of the McLennan County Sheriff's Department, said of the marchers.

    He said the group was stopped because some marchers ignored instructions to walk in the ditch beside the road, not on the road.

    Sheehan said she decided to come to Crawford a few days ago after Bush said that fallen U.S. troops had died for a noble cause and that the mission must be completed.

    "I don't want him to use my son's name or my family name to justify any more killing," she said.

    Sheehan said Bush administration officials "don't have a mission and they don't even ever plan on completing it." She said she fears that the United States plans to keep a U.S. military presence in Iraq indefinitely.

    The White House responded to the protest, saying the president wants to bring the troops home.

    "Many of the hundreds of families the president has met with know their loved one died for a noble cause and that the best way to honor their sacrifice is to complete the mission," White House spokesman Trent Duffy said Saturday. "It is a message the president has heard time and again from those he has met with and comforted. Like all Americans, he wants the troops home as soon as soon as possible."

    Sheehan's bus pulled up at a house run by peace activists a few hundred feet from the town's only stoplight. There, she met up with other demonstrators and then led a caravan of about 20 vehicles down a winding road toward Bush's ranch.

    The group stopped along the way and sheriff's deputies advised them that if they wanted to go farther toward the ranch, they would have to walk in a ditch along the road.

    The marchers walked about half a mile until the deputies stopped them, saying that they had violated their instructions by walking on the road itself instead of staying in the adjacent ditch.

    Sheehan protested, saying she had not walked on the road. The deputies refused to let her go farther.

    The protesters then began chanting, "W killed her son."


    08-06-05 20:27 EDT



    Very nice making the mother of a slain soldier walk in a ditch!!!

    FUCKING CUNT!!!!
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    And whoever believes in this BULLSHIT WAR and are in the required age range CLICK THIS LINK!!! and stop the bullshit already.


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    BCE threatens to KILL Cindy Sheehan & others

    Cindy Sheehan called After Downing Street moments ago at 10 p.m. ET to report that the Secret Service is trying to intimidate her and members of Gold Star Families for Peace, Iraq Veterans Against the War, and Veterans for Peace into leaving their protest near Bush's Crawford, Texas ranch.

    This morning Cindy led dozens of protesters as close as they could get to the ranch; they were stopped by local police about five miles away. Cindy and others plan to stay there throughout Bush's five-week August vacation until he agrees to meet with her and other family members of soldiers killed in Iraq and answer their questions about the war.

    Throughout the afternoon and evening, however, the Secret Service has been telling protesters that if they stay there they may be hit by Secret Service vehicles. Cindy says, "They've told us this at least ten times. There isn't much room between the side of the road and the fence, and they go zooming by far over the speed limit." Cindy reports the Secret Service already ran a mother and her six year-old off the road. She believes the Secret Service's actions are a clear attempt to coerce her and the other protesters into leaving.

    Cindy and others are asking to meet with the Secret Service and local police to ensure the safety of everyone involved. In the meantime, she asks that anyone who can contact the media to alert them to the situation.

    If you are able to do this, media contact information can be found here. Please politely let them know what's been happening with the Secret Service, and encourage them to continue covering Cindy's efforts to meet with President Bush.

    http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/1208

    This woman has more couarage than all the treasonous fucking criminals in the BCE combined!
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    READ THIS BUSHEEP

    SATURDAY NIGHT UPDATE FROM CINDY SHEEHAN

    By Buddy Spell
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    August 6, 2005

    Briefly, I just got off of the telephone with Cindy at 10:58 PM (CST).

    She’s on the side of the road with six (6) other activists. They expect others to arrive from the VFP convention in Dallas to spend the night with them tonight.

    Cindy says that the SS says the protesters will be killed if they stay the night. “We’re not letting them intimidate us. If we get killed out here, know that the Secret Service killed us.”

    She asks that we all light candles in solidarity and looks forward to more company in the days ahead.

    Folks, the time has come today!

    Peace out.

    An American citizen whose son died for PNAC is threatened with DEATH for merely wanting to talk to the bastard who murdered her son.

    What the fuck has happenned to this country, and how much longer will you Busheep keep the blindfolds on?

    Casey Sheehan's blood is on YOUR hands already. Him and nearly 2000 others. Plus 100,000 Iraqi civilians. Every last one of you who voted for these criminal lying motherfuckers. Will his mother's blood be on your hands by morning?

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    HMM I wonder what the troops who are risking their lifes would think if they found out thier mothers were kept 5 miles away and were made to walk a ditch for this SCUMBAG they are protecting?

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    Last edited by frets5150; 08-07-2005 at 03:53 AM.

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    Who owns the land that this woman is using as a stage for her protest? Is she trespassing? I'm just wondering how this will end.
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    Originally posted by frets5150
    Any Takers yet?


    That picture of the American Flag with the Swastika in it is revolting.

    You are a pig.

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    Originally posted by Guitar Shark
    Who owns the land that this woman is using as a stage for her protest? Is she trespassing? I'm just wondering how this will end.
    It's public land. They know exactly how far they can go without being arrested or being forced away.

    This "news" already exists in the "CHIMP off to set record setting vacation" thread.

    Considering how well organized it is, this is obviously not just one little woman bravely setting off on her own against the big bad neo-con machine, but someone who has funding, access, equipment, and preparation (for soundbytes, media releases, press updates etc)

    Of course I mourn her loss. But, c'mon, she ain't Forrest Gump.

    I think it'd be appropriate to let this discussion continue in the thread it had already started in.

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    Originally posted by BigBadBrian
    That picture of the American Flag with the Swastika in it is revolting.

    You are a pig.

    I kinda like it FUCKNUTS!:p

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    Originally posted by frets5150
    I kinda like it FUCKNUTS!:p

    I'm not surprised. You and the other liberals on this board also celebrate the deaths of our brave American troops also. I'm not surprised.


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    Originally posted by BigBadBrian
    I'm not surprised. You and the other liberals on this board also celebrate the deaths of our brave American troops also. I'm not surprised.

    Idiots like you Neo Cuntservatives send them to die needlessly...

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    Originally posted by BigBadBrian
    I'm not surprised. You and the other liberals on this board also celebrate the deaths of our brave American troops also. I'm not surprised.

    Who?

    I have never seen a single person "celebrate the deaths" of American troops.

    The only person I can think of who *might* have done that is that kentuckyidiot dude, but I can't recall seeing that.

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    Originally posted by Guitar Shark
    Who?

    I have never seen a single person "celebrate the deaths" of American troops.

    The only person I can think of who *might* have done that is that kentuckyidiot dude, but I can't recall seeing that.
    Shhhhhh...Brian is very happy and secure in his li'l dogmatic world, and we should do nothin to upset the delicate balance therein.

    But for the record, Brian, you're saying that is every bit as offensive as the swastika flag that you are (rightfully) complaining about.

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    Originally posted by Guitar Shark
    Who?

    I have never seen a single person "celebrate the deaths" of American troops.

    The only person I can think of who *might* have done that is that kentuckyidiot dude, but I can't recall seeing that.
    And even Kentuckyidiot has a point (though I don't necessarily agree with his logic or mindless cheering of Iraqi terrorists either). He believes that more US lives will be saved in the long run if we get out of Iraq and stop sending tank divisions around the world to fight terrorism, which is a pretty fucking absurd notion (using tanks to fight terra-ists')...
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    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
    Idiots like you Neo Cuntservatives send them to die needlessly...
    Yep what he said

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    I don't usually get involved in political threads, but frets5150's Bush/Hitler comparison is right to the point....

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    Originally posted by superdave
    I don't usually get involved in political threads, but frets5150's Bush/Hitler comparison is right to the point....
    I CAN'T TAKE ALL THE CREDIT FORD DESERVES HIS PROPS TO.:p

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    Originally posted by superdave
    I don't usually get involved in political threads, but frets5150's Bush/Hitler comparison is right to the point....
    I hate Bush, but I have to disagree with you there.

    When we start hearing about American concentration camps, and the mass extermination of millions of American citizens, then we can talk.

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    Spokesman: Bush Will Not Meet With Sheehan

    What a fucking shock. Bush will not meet with someone who disagrees with him about his bullshit war. It would be great PR if he did, but he can't really go out there and tell this woman her son died because Dubya has a personal grudge against Hussein, can he?

    "After all, this is the guy who tried to kill my dad." - George W. Bush in September 2002

    "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." —George W. Bush, State of the Union Address, Jan. 28, 2003, making a claim that administration officials knew at the time to be false

    http://www.charlotte.com/mld/observer/news/12336437.htm

    President Bush has no plans to meet with the mother of a soldier killed in Iraq who is staging an anti-war protest vigil outside the president's ranch in Texas, his spokesman said Monday.

    Cindy Sheehan is vowing to remain at her makeshift campsite outside Bush's compound until the president agrees to talk with her and explain the reasons for the U.S. occupation of Iraq. Her son, Army Specialist Casey Meehan, was killed April 4, 2004, during fighting in Sadr City, Iraq.

    National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley and Deputy Chief of Staff Joe Hagen met with Sheehan for about 45 minutes Saturday after she led a group of about 50 anti-war protesters to within about a mile of Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas.

    Sheehan, 48, of Vacaville, Calif., is a co-founder of the Gold Star Families for Peace. She and her family met with Bush last year, along with 15 other families who lost a relative in Iraq.
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    Originally posted by BigBadBrian
    I'm not surprised. You and the other liberals on this board also celebrate the deaths of our brave American troops also. I'm not surprised.

    Come on BBB. What the hell's up with that? My wife's nephew is going to Iraq, and she and her sister are all to hell. I resent the hell out of that statement. Thinking that Bush is a lying piece of shit is not equivalent to wishing our troops dead.
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    PROTESTING SOLDIER MOM CHANGED STORY ON BUSH
    Mon Aug 08 2005 10:11:07 ET

    The mother of a fallen U.S. soldier who is holding a roadside peace vigil near President Bush's ranch -- has dramatically changed her account about what happened when she met the commander-in-chief last summer!

    Cindy Sheehan, 48, of Vacaville, Calif., who last year praised Bush for bringing her family the "gift of happiness," took to the nation's TV outlets this weekend to declare how Bush "killed an indispensable part of our family and humanity."

    CINDY 2004

    THE REPORTER of Vacaville, CA published an account of Cindy Sheehan's visit with the president at Fort Lewis near Seattle on June 24, 2004:

    "'I now know he's sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis,' Cindy said after their meeting. 'I know he's sorry and feels some pain for our loss. And I know he's a man of faith.'

    "The meeting didn't last long, but in their time with Bush, Cindy spoke about Casey and asked the president to make her son's sacrifice count for something. They also spoke of their faith.

    "The trip had one benefit that none of the Sheehans expected.

    "For a moment, life returned to the way it was before Casey died. They laughed, joked and bickered playfully as they briefly toured Seattle.

    For the first time in 11 weeks, they felt whole again.

    "'That was the gift the president gave us, the gift of happiness, of being together,' Cindy said."

    CINDY 2005

    Sheehan's current comments are a striking departure.

    She vowed on Sunday to continue her protest until she can personally ask Bush: "Why did you kill my son?"

    In an interview on CNN, she claimed Bush "acted like it was party" when she met him last year.

    "It was -- you know, there was a lot of things said. We wanted to use the time for him to know that he killed an indispensable part of our family and humanity. And we wanted him to look at the pictures of Casey.

    "He wouldn't look at the pictures of Casey. He didn't even know Casey's name. He came in the room and the very first thing he said is, 'So who are we honoring here?' He didn't even know Casey's name. He didn't want to hear it. He didn't want to hear anything about Casey. He wouldn't even call him 'him' or 'he.' He called him 'your loved one.'

    Every time we tried to talk about Casey and how much we missed him, he would change the subject. And he acted like it was a party.

    BLITZER: Like a party? I mean...

    SHEEHAN: Yes, he came in very jovial, and like we should be happy that he, our son, died for his misguided policies. He didn't even pretend like somebody...

    END

    On her current media tour, Sheehan has not been asked to explain her twist on Bush; from praise to damnation!

    Developing...

    http://drudgereport.com/flash4.htm

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    Interesting....someone needs to ask her about that.

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    Who made these people join the military?. Think what you like (we can) this stuff has gone on since Israel became a Nation once again. It wont stop after we leave, and we'll be back when all the muslim nations atack Israel anyways so!

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    And yes I lost my Nephew in Iraq Dec. 28 2004, I was at Arlington Jan. 10 2005 to bury him with my family. Nathaniel John Nyren, my sisters only son, he is a hero. I don't blame Bush, that was my nephews job, he was in the miitary.

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    Originally posted by PenguinsKID1986
    Who made these people join the military?. Think what you like (we can) this stuff has gone on since Israel became a Nation once again. It wont stop after we leave, and we'll be back when all the muslim nations atack Israel anyways so!
    '

    Since when did our troops join the ISRAELI Army? Since when was this shit supposed to be about ISRAEL? I thought it was about WMD's, Terrorism, now our kids are dying for the state of Israel? Fuck them! nobody's invaded Israel for over 30 years now, they can take care of themselves, we only spend billions supporting them.

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    "After all, this is the guy who tried to kill my dad." - George W. Bush in September 2002

    Oh? And when did this happen? Sadaamite Hussein would have been arrested the moment he set foot in the US!

    When was there an assasination plot against GHW Bush foiled?

    I think it was the other way around...

    "After all, my dad tried to kill this guy".
    That is more like it.

    You know how to tell if Bush is lying???

    His lips are moving.


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    Originally posted by Hardrock69
    "After all, this is the guy who tried to kill my dad." - George W. Bush in September 2002

    Oh? And when did this happen? Sadaamite Hussein would have been arrested the moment he set foot in the US!

    When was there an assasination plot against GHW Bush foiled?

    I think it was the other way around...

    "After all, my dad tried to kill this guy".
    That is more like it.

    U.S. Strikes Iraq for Plot to Kill Bush
    By David Von Drehle and R. Jeffrey Smith
    Washington Post Staff Writers
    Sunday, June 27, 1993; Page A01
    U.S. Navy ships launched 23 Tomahawk missiles against the headquarters of the Iraqi Intelligence Service yesterday in what President Clinton said was a "firm and commensurate" response to Iraq's plan to assassinate former president George Bush in mid-April.

    The attack was meant to strike at the building where Iraqi officials had plotted against Bush, organized other unspecified terrorist actions and directed repressive internal security measures, senior U.S. officials said.

    Clinton, speaking in a televised address to the nation at 7:40 last night, said he ordered the attack to send three messages to the Iraqi leadership: "We will combat terrorism. We will deter aggression. We will protect our people."

    Clinton said he ordered the attack after receiving "compelling evidence" from U.S. intelligence officials that Bush had been the target of an assassination plot and that the plot was "directed and pursued by the Iraqi Intelligence Service."

    "It was an elaborate plan devised by the Iraqi government and directed against a former president of the United States because of actions he took as president," Clinton said. Bush led the coalition that drove Iraq from Kuwait in the 1991 Persian Gulf War. "As such, the Iraqi attack against President Bush was an attack against our country and against all Americans," Clinton said.

    After two months of investigation and mounting evidence, Clinton became convinced during two "exhaustive and exhausting" meetings last week that Iraq was indeed behind a foiled car-bomb plot to kill Bush during his visit to Kuwait April 14-16, a senior administration official said.

    Aides met with Clinton Wednesday in the White House residence to present a summary of the evidence gathered by FBI and intelligence sources, the official said. On Thursday, Attorney General Janet Reno and CIA Director R. James Woolsey presented the president with their formal reports.

    Clinton ordered the attack Friday, but the raid was delayed a day so it would not fall on the Muslim sabbath, the official said. "About a dozen" U.S. allies and "friends in the region" were told in advance that the attack was coming; the reaction, according to the official, was mostly favorable. British Prime Minister John Major issued a statement last night supporting Clinton's action.

    The missiles struck late at night -- between 1 a.m. and 2 a.m. Baghdad time -- because Clinton wished to minimize possible deaths of innocent civilians.

    But Iraq, which has consistently denied involvement in any assassination plot against Bush, said there were "many civilian casualties" as a result of the Tomahawk attack, the Reuter news service reported. It quoted Iraqi civil defense officials as saying three people were killed and four rescued.

    Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's ruling Revolution Command Council denounced the raid as "cowardly aggression" and said Washington's reason for launching it was "fabricated by the vile Kuwaiti rulers in coordination with agencies in the U.S. administration."

    An Iraqi Ministry of Information spokesman said the missiles hit a residential area, where Reuter reported that three houses were destroyed.

    From Baghdad, Reuter reported smoke and what appeared to be a huge blaze could be seen rising from the site, about two miles from the center of the city in a residential district. But reporters were not immediately given access to the site.

    Clinton was persuaded to act by three kinds of evidence, a senior intelligence official said last night. First, key suspects in the plot confessed to FBI agents in Kuwait. Second, FBI bomb experts painstakingly linked the captured car bomb to previous explosives made in Iraq. Third, unspecified intelligence assessments concluded that Saddam meant seriously the threats he has made against Bush. Other classified intelligence sources supported this analysis, the official said.

    The combination made the CIA "highly confident that the Iraqi government, at the highest levels, directed its intelligence service to assassinate former president Bush," said the intelligence official.

    Clinton had harsh words for Saddam -- Bush's arch-nemesis during the Persian Gulf War -- in his Oval Office address. After listing the Iraqi leader's offenses against the world and his own people, Clinton said: "This attempt at revenge by a tyrant against the leader of the world coalition that defeated him in war is particularly loathsome and cowardly."

    Indeed, the tone of the whole speech was notably forceful and stern, coming from the often avuncular Clinton. He saved his kind words for the men and women involved in the investigation and the military strike: "You have my gratitude, and the gratitude of all Americans," he said.

    The action was the second major U.S. military operation conducted during Clinton's presidency, coming just two weeks after U.S. forces participated in a multinational strike against forces in Somalia allied with warlord Mohamed Farah Aideed. Unlike that operation, the raid against Iraq was taken unilaterally, entirely apart from the U.N. sanctions still in place against the Iraqi regime.

    "This crime was committed against the United States, and we elected to respond and to exercise our right of self defense" under Article 51 of the U.N. charter, Defense Secretary Les Aspin said. "Tonight's unilateral action in no way diminishes U.S. support for coalition action or for the authority of the United Nations."

    Bush -- at his home in Kennebunkport, Maine -- was terse when reached by the Associated Press. "I'm not in the interview business, but thank you very much for calling," he said.

    Administration sources said Bush's friend and former national security adviser Brent Scowcroft was kept apprised of the investigation, and Clinton called Bush minutes after the attack was launched to give him the news. Secretary of State Warren Christopher flew to Kennebunkport yesterday to brief the former president.

    Clinton relied heavily on evidence found by FBI bomb experts linking the Iraqi Intelligence Service to a 175-pound car bomb found April 14 in Kuwait City. According to senior intelligence and law enforcement officials, key pieces of the bomb -- including the remote-control detonator, the plastic explosives, the electronic circuitry and the wiring -- bore an overwhelming resemblance to components of bombs previously recovered from the Iraqis.

    The White House press office distributed photographs of circuit boards and detonators taken from earlier Iraqi bombs, alongside photos of the same elements from the bomb meant for Bush. Even to the untrained eye, there were clear similarities.

    "Certain aspects of these devices have been found only in devices linked to Iraq," an intelligence official said.

    Clinton also had the confessions of the two alleged leaders of the 16 suspects arrested by Kuwait when the plot was uncovered. Both are Iraqi nationals. Ra'ad Asadi and Wali Abdelhadi Ghazali told FBI investigators detailed to Kuwait that they met in Basra, Iraq, on April 12 with "individuals they believed to be associated with the Iraqi Intelligence Service," according to a senior U.S. intelligence official.

    They were given a vehicle loaded with hidden explosives. Ghazali told the FBI he was recruited specifically to kill Bush. Asadi also told the FBI he was to guide the car bomb, driven by his partner, to Kuwait University, where Bush was to be honored by the Emir of Kuwait for his leadership in the gulf war.

    Administration officials said the suspects told the FBI that the bomb was to be parked near the motorcade route. From a vantage point 300 to 500 yards away, Ghazali would set off the bomb using a remote control. FBI bomb specialists estimated the bomb would have been lethal for nearly a quarter-mile.

    FBI agents were told if the remote control device failed, the bomb was to be detonated by a timing device on a street in Kuwait City named for Bush. They were also told that Ghazali had a "bomb belt" he would use if all else failed; he was to wear it, approach Bush and blow them both up.

    There have been reports that the suspects held in Kuwait have been tortured by Kuwaiti officials, but a senior law enforcement official said last night that FBI agents "believe they were not." Nevertheless, the official said, confessions are often unreliable, which is why the investigators placed "an especially great emphasis" on the conclusions of the bomb experts.

    The CIA recalled that, after the gulf war, Saddam was heard on official Iraq media promising to hunt down and punish Bush, even after he left office. A senior intelligence official said the CIA also had classified evidence proving that the car bomb was meant for Bush, from Saddam.

    "We could not and have not let such action against our nation go unanswered," Clinton said in his televised address. "From the first days of our revolution, America's security has depended on the clarity of this message: Don't tread on us."

    Clinton had criticized the Iraqi regime on Friday for failing to allow continuous monitoring of its missile test sites by the United Nations. The monitoring was accepted by Baghdad at the end of the 1991 gulf war, as part of a series of agreements meant to strip Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction.

    But U.S. officials did not cite that dispute in explaining the action last night, and U.S. warplanes involved in policing U.N. sanctions against Iraq did not take part.

    Congressional leaders from both parties supported Clinton's action. Senate Minority Leader Robert J. Dole (R-Kan.) called the president from Charleston, W.Va., to give a thumbs-up. "I think it was a good thing. I support it. If I can help, let me know," Dole told Clinton, according to a CNN interview.

    The U.S. attack was initiated at 4:22 p.m. (EDT), when two ships -- the destroyer USS Peterson in the Red Sea and the cruiser USS Chancellorsville in the Persian Gulf -- began firing a total of 23 Tomahawk cruise missiles at the Iraqi Intelligence Service headquarters complex in downtown Baghdad.

    The missiles, which each cost an estimated $1.1 million, typically fly 50 to 100 feet above the ground and navigate by radar according to detailed maps stored in onboard computers. Each missile was capable of carrying up to 1,000 pounds of conventional explosives on their flight to Baghdad of up to two hours.

    Officials said the number of missiles was set after detailed analysis of what would be needed to ruin the complex. Navy officials programmed most of the missiles to hit specific aim-points at a building near the center, which Aspin called the "hub of . . . operational planning, interrogations, communication, and computer operations" for the Iraqi Intelligence Service.

    Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Colin L. Powell told reporters at the Pentagon last night that a detailed assessment of the damage was not immediately available. But Powell said he had "preliminary information that a large number of them impacted where they were supposed to."

    Officials made clear that no further military action was planned and warned Iraq not to retaliate. Powell said the Navy had moved several ships closer to Iraq so the United States could respond to any Iraqi retaliation.

    An aerial picture of the principal targeted building, shown to reporters at the Pentagon last night, showed a large, six-story structure with three wings located off the central corridors. Four satellite dishes sat atop the building's roof.

    Nearby were various buildings labeled as administrative, housing and support offices or vehicle storage sheds, and the entire complex -- roughly a football field in length -- was surrounded by a wall. U.S. officials cited the complex's isolation and the fact that the attack was timed to occur during Baghdad's nighttime as factors that would reduce the number of innocent casualties.

    Powell and Aspin declined to say how many people were expected to be in the complex but said a portion of it functioned around the clock. The attack was not expected to "take down the entire complex," Powell said, but to ruin Iraq's ability to continue using it.

    He noted that the complex was attacked and damaged once before by the United States, during the 1991 Operation Desert Storm bombing campaign aimed at pressuring Iraq to withdraw its forces from Kuwait. But Iraq had since rebuilt the headquarters.

    Aspin said the Iraqi Intelligence Service is the country's largest such agency and was responsible for providing security for Saddam's regime, repressing internal opposition, collecting foreign intelligence and conducting terrorist operations abroad, including the planned assassination attempt.

    Asked to explain why the United States picked that target and did not go after Saddam himself, Aspin said, "It's very difficult to target a single individual. It's very difficult to capture a single individual. Dropping bombs on the hope that you're going to get a single individual is a very, very demanding

    Washington Post Article on Saddam and Bush Assassination Attempt

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    Originally posted by BigBadBrian
    U.S. Strikes Iraq for Plot to Kill Bush
    By David Von Drehle and R. Jeffrey Smith
    Washington Post Staff Writers
    Sunday, June 27, 1993; Page A01
    U.S. Navy ships launched 23 Tomahawk missiles against the headquarters of the Iraqi Intelligence Service yesterday in what President Clinton said was a "firm and commensurate" response to Iraq's plan to assassinate former president George Bush in mid-April.

    The attack was meant to strike at the building where Iraqi officials had plotted against Bush, organized other unspecified terrorist actions and directed repressive internal security measures, senior U.S. officials said.

    Clinton, speaking in a televised address to the nation at 7:40 last night, said he ordered the attack to send three messages to the Iraqi leadership: "We will combat terrorism. We will deter aggression. We will protect our people."

    Clinton said he ordered the attack after receiving "compelling evidence" from U.S. intelligence officials that Bush had been the target of an assassination plot and that the plot was "directed and pursued by the Iraqi Intelligence Service."

    "It was an elaborate plan devised by the Iraqi government and directed against a former president of the United States because of actions he took as president," Clinton said. Bush led the coalition that drove Iraq from Kuwait in the 1991 Persian Gulf War. "As such, the Iraqi attack against President Bush was an attack against our country and against all Americans," Clinton said.

    After two months of investigation and mounting evidence, Clinton became convinced during two "exhaustive and exhausting" meetings last week that Iraq was indeed behind a foiled car-bomb plot to kill Bush during his visit to Kuwait April 14-16, a senior administration official said.

    Aides met with Clinton Wednesday in the White House residence to present a summary of the evidence gathered by FBI and intelligence sources, the official said. On Thursday, Attorney General Janet Reno and CIA Director R. James Woolsey presented the president with their formal reports.

    Clinton ordered the attack Friday, but the raid was delayed a day so it would not fall on the Muslim sabbath, the official said. "About a dozen" U.S. allies and "friends in the region" were told in advance that the attack was coming; the reaction, according to the official, was mostly favorable. British Prime Minister John Major issued a statement last night supporting Clinton's action.

    The missiles struck late at night -- between 1 a.m. and 2 a.m. Baghdad time -- because Clinton wished to minimize possible deaths of innocent civilians.

    But Iraq, which has consistently denied involvement in any assassination plot against Bush, said there were "many civilian casualties" as a result of the Tomahawk attack, the Reuter news service reported. It quoted Iraqi civil defense officials as saying three people were killed and four rescued.

    Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's ruling Revolution Command Council denounced the raid as "cowardly aggression" and said Washington's reason for launching it was "fabricated by the vile Kuwaiti rulers in coordination with agencies in the U.S. administration."

    An Iraqi Ministry of Information spokesman said the missiles hit a residential area, where Reuter reported that three houses were destroyed.

    From Baghdad, Reuter reported smoke and what appeared to be a huge blaze could be seen rising from the site, about two miles from the center of the city in a residential district. But reporters were not immediately given access to the site.

    Clinton was persuaded to act by three kinds of evidence, a senior intelligence official said last night. First, key suspects in the plot confessed to FBI agents in Kuwait. Second, FBI bomb experts painstakingly linked the captured car bomb to previous explosives made in Iraq. Third, unspecified intelligence assessments concluded that Saddam meant seriously the threats he has made against Bush. Other classified intelligence sources supported this analysis, the official said.

    The combination made the CIA "highly confident that the Iraqi government, at the highest levels, directed its intelligence service to assassinate former president Bush," said the intelligence official.

    Clinton had harsh words for Saddam -- Bush's arch-nemesis during the Persian Gulf War -- in his Oval Office address. After listing the Iraqi leader's offenses against the world and his own people, Clinton said: "This attempt at revenge by a tyrant against the leader of the world coalition that defeated him in war is particularly loathsome and cowardly."

    Indeed, the tone of the whole speech was notably forceful and stern, coming from the often avuncular Clinton. He saved his kind words for the men and women involved in the investigation and the military strike: "You have my gratitude, and the gratitude of all Americans," he said.

    The action was the second major U.S. military operation conducted during Clinton's presidency, coming just two weeks after U.S. forces participated in a multinational strike against forces in Somalia allied with warlord Mohamed Farah Aideed. Unlike that operation, the raid against Iraq was taken unilaterally, entirely apart from the U.N. sanctions still in place against the Iraqi regime.

    "This crime was committed against the United States, and we elected to respond and to exercise our right of self defense" under Article 51 of the U.N. charter, Defense Secretary Les Aspin said. "Tonight's unilateral action in no way diminishes U.S. support for coalition action or for the authority of the United Nations."

    Bush -- at his home in Kennebunkport, Maine -- was terse when reached by the Associated Press. "I'm not in the interview business, but thank you very much for calling," he said.

    Administration sources said Bush's friend and former national security adviser Brent Scowcroft was kept apprised of the investigation, and Clinton called Bush minutes after the attack was launched to give him the news. Secretary of State Warren Christopher flew to Kennebunkport yesterday to brief the former president.

    Clinton relied heavily on evidence found by FBI bomb experts linking the Iraqi Intelligence Service to a 175-pound car bomb found April 14 in Kuwait City. According to senior intelligence and law enforcement officials, key pieces of the bomb -- including the remote-control detonator, the plastic explosives, the electronic circuitry and the wiring -- bore an overwhelming resemblance to components of bombs previously recovered from the Iraqis.

    The White House press office distributed photographs of circuit boards and detonators taken from earlier Iraqi bombs, alongside photos of the same elements from the bomb meant for Bush. Even to the untrained eye, there were clear similarities.

    "Certain aspects of these devices have been found only in devices linked to Iraq," an intelligence official said.

    Clinton also had the confessions of the two alleged leaders of the 16 suspects arrested by Kuwait when the plot was uncovered. Both are Iraqi nationals. Ra'ad Asadi and Wali Abdelhadi Ghazali told FBI investigators detailed to Kuwait that they met in Basra, Iraq, on April 12 with "individuals they believed to be associated with the Iraqi Intelligence Service," according to a senior U.S. intelligence official.

    They were given a vehicle loaded with hidden explosives. Ghazali told the FBI he was recruited specifically to kill Bush. Asadi also told the FBI he was to guide the car bomb, driven by his partner, to Kuwait University, where Bush was to be honored by the Emir of Kuwait for his leadership in the gulf war.

    Administration officials said the suspects told the FBI that the bomb was to be parked near the motorcade route. From a vantage point 300 to 500 yards away, Ghazali would set off the bomb using a remote control. FBI bomb specialists estimated the bomb would have been lethal for nearly a quarter-mile.

    FBI agents were told if the remote control device failed, the bomb was to be detonated by a timing device on a street in Kuwait City named for Bush. They were also told that Ghazali had a "bomb belt" he would use if all else failed; he was to wear it, approach Bush and blow them both up.

    There have been reports that the suspects held in Kuwait have been tortured by Kuwaiti officials, but a senior law enforcement official said last night that FBI agents "believe they were not." Nevertheless, the official said, confessions are often unreliable, which is why the investigators placed "an especially great emphasis" on the conclusions of the bomb experts.

    The CIA recalled that, after the gulf war, Saddam was heard on official Iraq media promising to hunt down and punish Bush, even after he left office. A senior intelligence official said the CIA also had classified evidence proving that the car bomb was meant for Bush, from Saddam.

    "We could not and have not let such action against our nation go unanswered," Clinton said in his televised address. "From the first days of our revolution, America's security has depended on the clarity of this message: Don't tread on us."

    Clinton had criticized the Iraqi regime on Friday for failing to allow continuous monitoring of its missile test sites by the United Nations. The monitoring was accepted by Baghdad at the end of the 1991 gulf war, as part of a series of agreements meant to strip Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction.

    But U.S. officials did not cite that dispute in explaining the action last night, and U.S. warplanes involved in policing U.N. sanctions against Iraq did not take part.

    Congressional leaders from both parties supported Clinton's action. Senate Minority Leader Robert J. Dole (R-Kan.) called the president from Charleston, W.Va., to give a thumbs-up. "I think it was a good thing. I support it. If I can help, let me know," Dole told Clinton, according to a CNN interview.

    The U.S. attack was initiated at 4:22 p.m. (EDT), when two ships -- the destroyer USS Peterson in the Red Sea and the cruiser USS Chancellorsville in the Persian Gulf -- began firing a total of 23 Tomahawk cruise missiles at the Iraqi Intelligence Service headquarters complex in downtown Baghdad.

    The missiles, which each cost an estimated $1.1 million, typically fly 50 to 100 feet above the ground and navigate by radar according to detailed maps stored in onboard computers. Each missile was capable of carrying up to 1,000 pounds of conventional explosives on their flight to Baghdad of up to two hours.

    Officials said the number of missiles was set after detailed analysis of what would be needed to ruin the complex. Navy officials programmed most of the missiles to hit specific aim-points at a building near the center, which Aspin called the "hub of . . . operational planning, interrogations, communication, and computer operations" for the Iraqi Intelligence Service.

    Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Colin L. Powell told reporters at the Pentagon last night that a detailed assessment of the damage was not immediately available. But Powell said he had "preliminary information that a large number of them impacted where they were supposed to."

    Officials made clear that no further military action was planned and warned Iraq not to retaliate. Powell said the Navy had moved several ships closer to Iraq so the United States could respond to any Iraqi retaliation.

    An aerial picture of the principal targeted building, shown to reporters at the Pentagon last night, showed a large, six-story structure with three wings located off the central corridors. Four satellite dishes sat atop the building's roof.

    Nearby were various buildings labeled as administrative, housing and support offices or vehicle storage sheds, and the entire complex -- roughly a football field in length -- was surrounded by a wall. U.S. officials cited the complex's isolation and the fact that the attack was timed to occur during Baghdad's nighttime as factors that would reduce the number of innocent casualties.

    Powell and Aspin declined to say how many people were expected to be in the complex but said a portion of it functioned around the clock. The attack was not expected to "take down the entire complex," Powell said, but to ruin Iraq's ability to continue using it.

    He noted that the complex was attacked and damaged once before by the United States, during the 1991 Operation Desert Storm bombing campaign aimed at pressuring Iraq to withdraw its forces from Kuwait. But Iraq had since rebuilt the headquarters.

    Aspin said the Iraqi Intelligence Service is the country's largest such agency and was responsible for providing security for Saddam's regime, repressing internal opposition, collecting foreign intelligence and conducting terrorist operations abroad, including the planned assassination attempt.

    Asked to explain why the United States picked that target and did not go after Saddam himself, Aspin said, "It's very difficult to target a single individual. It's very difficult to capture a single individual. Dropping bombs on the hope that you're going to get a single individual is a very, very demanding

    Washington Post Article on Saddam and Bush Assassination Attempt
    Thanks for posting another useless article BRIE...Don't you have anything better to do all day than to pointlessly Google ancient history?
    Last edited by Nickdfresh; 08-10-2005 at 05:58 PM.

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    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
    Thanks for posting another useless article BRIE...Don't you have anything better to do all day than to pointlessly Google ancient history?
    Actually, that was 100% legit.

    Bush was no longer even in office when this attempt took place.

    Besdies, even Richard Clarke documents all this in Against All Enemies...and describes how he wished the Clinton repsonse had been more severe (though he does say he was impressed with how effective the Clinton strike back was).

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    Originally posted by academic punk
    Actually, that was 100% legit.

    Bush was no longer even in office when this attempt took place.

    Besdies, even Richard Clarke documents all this in Against All Enemies...and describes how he wished the Clinton repsonse had been more severe (though he does say he was impressed with how effective the Clinton strike back was).
    I know, but he's stating the obvious...Although, I would have like to have seen him do it in the middle of the day and killed a few IRAQI secret police agents.

    I think a better response would have been to saturation bomb everyone of SADDAM's palaces...

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    Clintons strike was throwing a rock over a fence in hopes that
    none of his pussy left wing pansie friends or dike wife would get mad at him
    for such a barbaric act of murder w out cause or follow up.

    Thats the kind up pussy play that plays rite into the hands
    of the people that hate this country and gives us more cause
    as to clinton dropped the ball repeatadly and should shoulder
    Blame for whats happening now.

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    Originally posted by thome
    Clintons strike was throwing a rock over a fence in hopes that
    none of his pussy left wing pansie friends or dike wife would get mad at him
    for such a barbaric act of murder w out cause or follow up.

    Thats the kind up pussy play that plays rite into the hands
    of the people that hate this country and gives us more cause
    as to clinton dropped the ball repeatadly and should shoulder
    Blame for whats happening now.
    What would you have had him do?

    How the fuck is it his fault? JUNIOR is the one that invaded IRAQ and has gotten us bogged down...Try reading a news paper sometime!

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    I would have preferred that clinton did nothing his game was
    Fame to get Laid like why most normal guys get onto R&R.

    Clinton was always in every position he was appointed to
    under qualified and out played by real politicians, he was in it
    for attention and pussy and to make big money off the backs
    of working people.Laugh clown laugh in the face of America. m.op

    Doing nothing will be his legacy in history.
    Everything he did Blew up in his or someone elses face.

    If he would have just rode on the tail of reagan bush with some amt of
    balls this sh@t may be different .my .op

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    Well, Clinton's limited strike seemed to work since Saddam got the message loud and clear and never attempted anything like that again, and didn't even have an active WMD program in 2002.

    He was contained, sanctioned, and cornered.

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    Get OFF..... just drove ..THEM all underground.

    You would be Best not conrtadicting me on CLINTONS war record.

    Only a attention whore of the first magnitude with NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO talent on the SAX would get a solo
    shot on the Tonight show even if he was the president.

    Clinton is was and always will be in every way a complete and total
    embarrassment to the world!!

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    Originally posted by thome
    Get OFF..... just drove ..THEM all underground.

    You would be Best not conrtadicting me on CLINTONS war record.

    Only a attention whore of the first magnitude with NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO talent on the SAX would get a solo
    shot on the Tonight show even if he was the president.

    Clinton is was and always will be in every way a complete and total
    embarrassment to the world!!
    "The World" respected CLINTON, they almost universally think of BUSH as a fuckwit...

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    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
    "The World" respected CLINTON, they almost universally think of BUSH as a fuckwit...
    Rii-ght!

    http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=cl...nival.clinton/

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