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Yes, I remember......Not only did Vai outshine Ed on that song.....as a matter of fact on every song. Steve looked like he was playing with one hand on the VH tunes until the EEAS songs were performed....LOL
Originally posted by TMR Yes, I remember......Not only did Vai outshine Ed on that song.....as a matter of fact on every song. Steve looked like he was playing with one hand on the VH tunes until the EEAS songs were performed....LOL
I hope this is a joke. I've heard boots from this tour and I can barely even listen to it. Hot For Teacher, Unchained, Panama etc all sound stiff and the solos sound robotic. Not to mention the fact that there's keyboards on these tunes - big, sugarry, loud keyboards. On tunes like Unchained - terrible.
I've said it befor, I'll say it again. Steve Vai: million dollar hands, 10 cent head.
Originally posted by TMR Yes, I remember......Not only did Vai outshine Ed on that song.....as a matter of fact on every song. Steve looked like he was playing with one hand on the VH tunes until the EEAS songs were performed....LOL
What are you talking about?
I like aspects of Vai's playing, and love the EEAS record, but he sounded like pure shit playing the VH classics. Ugh.
I can't even listen to any boots of that band playing VH. It's crap.
"What we've been doing, which is great and certainly cost saving, is I train in the sand pit in McDonald's. I do a few laps. I go through the tunnel a few times. The kids don't mind if I smoke. Plus, when I'm done, lunch is right there."- DLR 2003
Why do you think Steve played those VH songs so bad?
I have some EEAS concert videos and I think the VH stuff sounded good. The guitar. I dunno I havent broken my eeas video collection out in a long time.
I liked his approach to the VH classics, but nobody knows a song better than the person who writes it, that is just a given.
Vai wasn't terrible on them though...he just added a different flavor that i thoroughly enjoyed when i saw that Tour.
But lets talk about Edwad ripping Vai off in a little diddy called "I Can't Stop Loving You"...It sounds an awful lot like "The Deeper the Love" by Whitesnake....check it out and tell me the melody is not similar.
Steve may have been an amazing guitarist but Eddie might be THE GUITARIST. It is interesting to here Steve play Van Halen songs but he doesn't play the as well as Eddie.
Rumour has it that Van Halen have continued in recent years with a new lead signer, but since there 1985 breakup, nobody involved has ever recaptured that spontaneous cheeseburger magic!
I have a detroit boot of eeas with Vai and DLR, and Vai played very well, but there were definite keyboards added for rhythm. Edward is Edward. Vai is Vai. You can't compare the two in the same category.
I'd say Edward can be compared to Eric Johnson, Clapton and Young.
Vai is comparable to Malmsteen. Two totaly different animals altogether. Plus with Vai and the like it was always about speed. Edward and the like are about finess and technique.
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I love both these guitarists. I've never heard Vai play VH tunes so couldn't comment. But his playing on EEAS is remarkable and not just the lead guitar, the rythm guitar also. His album Flexable also features stunning guitar playing and some nice songs. I have to say though, that after '86 Steve's tone was not as cool and he seemed to drench his guitar in effects ( Passion and Warfare?).
EEAS is my favourite performance by Vai, he doesn't play a bad note IMO and he was really pushing the boundries of what could be done on a guitar.
In '86 Vai was untouchable as far as rock guitar playing goes, same as Ed back in the late 70's and early 80's (not today though).
There was a great scene in the movie 'Crossroads' where Steve Vai played in a guitar duel against the hero who was battling to save his soul from the Devil. What would be cool would be the Steve Vai of '86 against the EVH of say '78. Now that would be some battle.
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