John Wayne: El Dorado vs. Rio Bravo

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  • Hardrock69
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    • Feb 2005
    • 21833

    John Wayne: El Dorado vs. Rio Bravo

    Ok so here ya gots two classic John Wayne westerns with virtually identical plot lines.

    I will compare them side by side in a manner of speaking just for the fuck of it.





    Plot for both films: Sherriff in town has turned into a drunk. The Evil Land Baron Asshole Scum and his hired buncha shit-heads seek to take advantage of this by taking over the town, and killing anyone who gets in his way. John Wayne shows up in town
    to help his old friend (said drunk sherriff) defeat the forces of E-vil along with the usual cast of supporting cretins.

    1. John Wayne:

    A. El Dorado:



    B. Rio Bravo




    1. Drunk Sherriff -

    A. El Dorado - Robert Mitchum:


    At one point in the film, Duke says to Robert Mitchum he is looking at a "tin star with a drunk pinned on it".


    B. Rio Bravo - Dean Martin:



    Willing to fish a silver dollar out of a spitoon in order to get another drink.....another "tin star with a drunk pinned on it."


    2. Sherrif's Deputy/sidekick:

    A. El Dorado: Arthur Hunnicutt:



    Likes to blow a bugle....plays the part of an ex-indian fighter.

    B. Walter Brennan:



    An actor who was great at playing an "old goober". Almost blasts Dean Martin's head off in the film, not that Dean would feel anything, as not only was he playing a drunk in the film, he was an expert drunk in real life.


    3. John Wayne's sidekick:


    A. El Dorado: James Caan:




    B. Rio Bravo: Ricky Nelson



    4. The Bad Guy:

    A. El Dorado: Ed Asner



    A sneaky little shit, who is rich, but a fucking pussy, and has to hire his muscle - Christopher George:



    B. Rio Bravo: John Russell:



    Veteran character actor in Westerns dating back to the 50s. Also played the leader of the posse who tried in vain to take out Clint Eastwood at the end of Pale Rider, only to receive an air-conditioned brain for his trouble:

  • Hardrock69
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Feb 2005
    • 21833

    #2
    5. The Love Interests.

    Kinda interesting here, as John Wayne's sidekick in each film gets a love interest in addition to John Wayne. The by now sober sherriff, as well as his sidekick only get each other.

    Christ...can you imagine Robert Mitchum bending Arthur Hunnicutt over a table? Or Dean Martin getting a gum job from Walter Brennan?

    BLEAH!!!

    Anyway....

    A. El Dorado:

    John Wayne gets Charlene Holt as "Maudie":



    She is kinda like, the mature MILF-type woman who is waiting for the Duke to settle down so she can get some Little Duke every night. By the end of this film, Mississippi (James Caan) has shot Duke in the leg, so he is running around on crutches....but I bet he can still fuck!

    His side kick Mississippi (being a pretty famous actor in his own right by this time) aside from getting some, he even gets a scene where he gets to make hay with his love interest, Michele Carey:


    She starred opposite of Elvis a couple of years later in a movie, and is hot enough that she deserves a special visual mention:




    B. Rio Lobo: THIS fucking movie was cool....as John Wayne's love interest was none other than a young Angie Dickinson, who was playing the vamp, and CLEARLY wanted to suck John Wayne's dick:



    B. El Dorado: Ricky Nelson, is a really wooden actor, but perhaps he was able to get some wood for this chick, the senorita who lived on the edge of town:




    He WANTS Angie Dickinson bad....here he drools while she gets drunk cause John Wayne won't allow her to suck his dick yet, but of course being a minor co-star, he ain't getting NONE o' dat!:





    Trailers:



    El Dorado


    RIO LOBO

    In Rio Lobo, we got to hear a small musical interlude, as there were two musical stars in the cast.

    Here is a scene were Walter Brennan gets down on Harp, and Ricky Nelson plays guitar and sings, and Dean Martin does what he does best: Lies flat on his back drunk while singing:

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    • Hardrock69
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Feb 2005
      • 21833

      #3
      It should be noted that these movies were both directed by Howard Hawks, as well as a third one which ALSO was pretty much a kind of "remake" called "Rio Lobo".



      This movie starred:

      Our hero, John Wayne:



      Jennifer O'Neill



      The sidekick, this time played by Wild-Eyed Jack Aleam:




      Oh and there was a cool almost boobage scene in here with Sherry Lansing:



      It also had Robert Mitchum's son Christopher in it:



      As well as George Plimpton, as "gunfighter #4".

      It was a fairly forgettable movie.


      Out of all these "similar" movies made by John Wayne in the 60s, one scene in particular stands out, and is one of my favorites.


      It is in the film "The Sons Of Katie Elder", which coincidentally also has Dean Martin in it.

      Oh, and John Wayne too!

      George Kennedy has a role as a scumbag whose boss is trying to take over the town, and who fucked over John Wayne's mom (Katie Elder) and murdered his dad.

      Of course John Wayne is pissed off, and is back in town to fuck these worthless fuckers UP!


      So anyhow, he goes in to talk to his friend the undertaker who is swabbing down the hearse.

      After John leaves, scumbag George comes creeping around, and starts trying to drown the undertaker unless he tells him what John Wayne was talking to him about.

      Little does Scumbag Geoerge realize that John has crept back in, and when he turns around and sees him, The Duke bashes his face in with an axe handle!!


      If I had the DVD, I would post screenshots, as there are no pics of this scene on the net.

      I just love watching movies where scum get their just rewards....


      Ok so that is all...just was thinking about these films today as I saw El Dorado over the weekend.

      John Wayne rules!!!
      Last edited by Hardrock69; 08-15-2006, 04:53 PM.

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      • bastardog
        Commando
        • Feb 2004
        • 1101

        #4
        I prefer Clint Eastwood movies....
        John Wayne was too much of a good guy.
        Bastardog

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        • bastardog
          Commando
          • Feb 2004
          • 1101

          #5
          I will liked to see a Clint Eastwood vs John Wayne hand gun duel.
          Bastardog

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          • EbDawson
            Veteran
            • Apr 2004
            • 1674

            #6
            Originally posted by Hardrock69

            His side kick Mississippi
            Alan Badillion Trahern.
            "If anyone came here hoping to hear Sammy Hagar Van Halen, there's the fucking door, man!" Ralph Saenz, Atomic Punks

            "Carpe Mammarium"

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            • EbDawson
              Veteran
              • Apr 2004
              • 1674

              #7
              Of the 2, I prefer El Dorado.
              "If anyone came here hoping to hear Sammy Hagar Van Halen, there's the fucking door, man!" Ralph Saenz, Atomic Punks

              "Carpe Mammarium"

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              • Hardrock69
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Feb 2005
                • 21833

                #8
                I forgot to point out the other main similarity between stories. In both cases, the good guys are holed up in the jail, because they have the bad guy or the bad guy's scum relative in jail, and the bad guys henchmen or the bad guy himself wants them released.


                "HEY YOU IN THE JAIL!!!!"

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                • CROWBAR
                  Commando
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 1283

                  #9
                  Good descriptions hardrock. I go with El Dorado.

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                  • Little Texan
                    Full Member Status

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 4579

                    #10
                    Anyone ever used John Wayne toilet paper? It's rough and tough and don't take no shit off nobody!

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                    • Little Texan
                      Full Member Status

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 4579

                      #11
                      Around here John Wayne is like a God...everyone has a picture of John Wayne hanging on the wall, and you don't dare say anything derrogatory about him unless you want to get the piss knocked out of you!

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                      • CROWBAR
                        Commando
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 1283

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Little Texan
                        Anyone ever used John Wayne toilet paper? It's rough and tough and don't take no shit off nobody!
                        Ha Ha! Hey man, send me a roll or two!

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                        • Nitro Express
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                          • Aug 2004
                          • 32798

                          #13
                          Rio Lobo. The train hyjack scenes are cool and I want to bang all the chicks in the movie.
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                          • Hardrock69
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 21833

                            #14
                            Hell yeah!

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                            • Hardrock69
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                              • Feb 2005
                              • 21833

                              #15
                              Ok here it is.....from the Sons Of Katie Elder...George Kennedy is laughing like some kind of sick nutjob....Duke gives him a new nosejob...for free!!!

                              As I don't have broadband, I cannot put up a high quality file.

                              But that is ok...you can still see what is happening...


                              Last edited by Hardrock69; 08-19-2006, 04:11 PM.

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