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    Well I'll be damned.... An actual terrorist attack on the US was prevented recently

    Report: 'Dirty bomb' parts found in slain man's home

    Agency says radioactive materials recovered in home of man allegedly slain by his wife



    An excerpt from the Washington Regional Threat and Analysis Center report posted online by WikiLeaks.

    By Walter Griffin
    BDN Staff
    BELFAST, Maine — James G. Cummings, who police say was shot to death by his wife two months ago, allegedly had a cache of radioactive materials in his home suitable for building a “dirty bomb.”

    According to an FBI field intelligence report from the Washington Regional Threat and Analysis Center posted online by WikiLeaks, an organization that posts leaked documents, an investigation into the case revealed that radioactive materials were removed from Cummings’ home after his shooting death on Dec. 9.

    The report posted on the WikiLeaks Web site states that “On 9 December 2008, radiological dispersal device components and literature, and radioactive materials, were discovered at the Maine residence of an identified deceased [person] James Cummings.”

    Click here to view the full report. The section referring to Cummings can be read here.

    It says that four 1-gallon containers of 35 percent hydrogen peroxide, uranium, thorium, lithium metal, thermite, aluminum powder, beryllium, boron, black iron oxide and magnesium ribbon were found in the home.

    Also found was literature on how to build “dirty bombs” and information about cesium-137, strontium-90 and cobalt-60, radioactive materials. The FBI report also stated there was evidence linking James Cummings to white supremacist groups. This would seem to confirm observations by local tradesmen who worked at the Cummings home that he was an ardent admirer of Adolf Hitler and had a collection of Nazi memorabilia around the house, including a prominently displayed flag with swastika. Cummings claimed to have pieces of Hitler’s personal silverware and place settings, painter Mike Robbins said a few days after the shooting.

    An application for membership in the National Socialist Movement filled out by Cummings also was found in the residence, according to the report. Cummings’ wife, Amber B. Cummings, 31, told investigators that her husband spoke of “dirty bombs,” according to the report, and mixed chemicals in her kitchen sink. She allegedly told police that Cummings subjected her to years of mental, physical and sexual abuse. She also said that Cummings was “very upset” when Barack Obama was elected president.

    A “dirty bomb” is a type of “radiological dispersal device” that combines a conventional explosive such as dynamite with radioactive material, according to the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission’s Web site. “Most RDDs would not release enough radiation to kill people or cause severe illness,” the NRC says, adding that “a dirty bomb is in no way similar to a nuclear weapon” because its effects occur in a very limited area compared to a nuclear explosion.

    The report noted that “uranium, thorium, cesium-137, stontium-90 and cobalt-60 are radioactive isotopes and 35 percent hydrogen peroxide is a necessary precursor for the manufacture of peroxide-based explosives. Lithium metal, thermite and aluminum are materials used to sensitize and amplify the effects of explosives.”

    The report stated that the uranium component was bought online from a U.S. company that was identified in the investigation, but not in the report.

    John Donnelley, an agent at the FBI’s Boston office, declined Tuesday to comment on the report. Donnelley said some FBI reports are provided to law enforcement agencies and sometimes get released to media outlets.

    “I wouldn’t be prepared to speak on that,” Donnelley said. “I have no comment.”

    The Washington Regional Threat and Analysis Center is an intelligence gathering office affiliated with Washington, D.C., law enforcement. Telephone and e-mail messages left with the center Tuesday were not returned.

    State police have identified Amber Cummings as the person who shot James Cummings. The couple’s 9-year-old daughter was present the morning of the shooting in what police have described as a domestic violence homicide.

    Amber Cummings, who is staying in the Belfast area, has not been charged in the case, although the Waldo County grand jury currently meeting in Belfast could take up the matter during its session this week. While state police have acknowledged that the 29-year-old Cummings was killed by a gunshot, the results of the autopsy have been impounded, as have the search warrants executed at Cummings’ High Street home following the shooting. Authorities spent days searching the home, according to neighbors.

    Lt. Gary Wright, who heads up the Maine State Police Criminal Investigation Division team working the case, declined to comment on any aspects of the case when contacted Tuesday.

    “We’re not going to comment on anything,” Wright said Tuesday evening. “It’s an open homicide investigation and we’re not going to comment. That’s our standard policy.”

    Stephen McCausland, spokesman for the Maine Department of Public Safety, also had no comment on the report. “This is an active, open homicide investigation,” he said Tuesday evening, “and as a result, it’s inappropriate to get into confirming or denying aspects of that.”

    Maine Deputy Attorney General William Stokes also declined to comment on the report Tuesday.

    David Farmer, spokesman for Gov. John Baldacci, said Tuesday that it was inappropriate for the governor to comment on an open investigation. When asked about the copy of the field report sent to him by the Bangor Daily News, he said, “At this point, I have been unable to confirm the authenticity of the documents you sent to us.”

    A spokesman for U.S. Sen. Susan Collins’ staff said there was no one able to comment on the report Tuesday night.

    Telephone messages left with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security were not returned Tuesday evening. Robbins, who worked on the house for a month last summer, described Cummings as an angry person who was verbally abusive to his wife. He said Cummings apparently was independently wealthy and did not work. Robbins said Cummings talked incessantly about his love of guns and his fascination for Hitler. He said Cummings repeatedly berated his wife about home-schooling their daughter. He said Cummings had a controlling personality and wanted to know his wife and child’s every move.

    Cummings grew up in California and lived in Texas before moving to Maine in August 2007. Although Robbins said Cummings told him he made his money in Texas real estate, it appears that the actual source of his wealth was a trust fund established by his father, a prominent landowner in the Northern California city of Fort Bragg. An Internet search of the James B. Cummings Trust indicated that it has an annual income of $10 million.

    The FBI field intelligence report was apparently first reported on by unattributable.com, an online magazine which covers and blogs on current events.

    BDN writer Dawn Gagnon in Bangor contributed to this report.

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    Gee.... where to begin with this one...... well first, I guess we should thank Mrs. Cummings for removing this terrorist Nazi piece of shit from the planet. And in doing so, she's killed more actual threats to America than the BCE ever did!
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    Just a random thought on "terra-ism". The first WTC bombing happened in 1993, 8 years later 9/11.......8 years later 2009.....is it a pattern? Probably not but......if "terra-ist" really wanted to cripple Obama's Presidency another attack this year could do it......Maybe not, the old saying "Some aspire to greatness, while others have greatness thrust upon them" shows how when Bush's call to destiny and greatness came he listened to rejected cold warriors and not common sense......I would postulate that Obama would be prudent and effectual........like I said, just a random thought.
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    I have my doubts as to whether 9-11-01 would have taken place at all, if any competent President had been in the White House. Nevermind the possible complicity of the BCE themselves in the attacks, just the warnings they ignored would have been enough for President Gore (the guy who actually won the election) to act on and stop the plot before it happened.

    But even assuming such an attack did take place, President Gore (or any other competent President in that circumstance) would have taken advantage of the overwhelming support for the US that was shown by most countries at the time. He would have used that goodwill to form a TRUE "coalition of the willing" against terrorism. Instead, Chimpy and PNAC pissed all that potential away with Afghanistan, Iraq, and all the bullshit that followed.

    And yet this country remains not one bit safer than it was on 9-11-01, regardless of what account you believe, concerning the events of that horrible day.

    If Amber Cummings had shared her husband's fucked up ideology and decided that "ni**er thug President" (in Nurse Presley's words) needed to die, God only knows how far this terraist asshole would have gone.

    Wonder what Poppy Bush thinks about an actual terrorist in his own neighborhood?

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    Agreed about the warnings prior to 9/11......when Condi had to back peddle about the briefings with the bold headlines "Terra-ist will strike with Hi-Jacked Planes" I'm too lazy to find her spin on it right now......I remember her testifying about briefings during the 9-11 hearings but I seem to remember her saying it during one of the Sunday shows.

    The fact remains that Bush was warned about the attack.....the local FBI office in Minnesota(?) reported the terra-ist not learning to take-off and land but only worried about flying planes......

    Conspiracy or complacency.......maybe both.

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    Here's a reference.......
    Although the commission is seeking the briefs provided each day by the FBI and the CIA to Bush and his predecessor Bill Clinton, much of its report could turn on an Aug. 6, 2001, written brief provided to Bush at his Texas ranch. Bush, unlike some of his predecessors, prefers his daily report on threats facing the U.S. in writing.

    His national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, has acknowledged the brief provided a warning that Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden might try to hijack U.S. aircraft. But Rice said the report was general and more of an analysis than a warning.
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    You guys have some valid points. Still, you have to remember, that the terroist had been planning this attack well before the Bush administration took office.

    It was under the Clinton administration, that these guys were able to get into this country and enroll in a flying school and never be questioned about not wanting to learn how to land but just fly.

    The FBI and even the CIA took a hard hit in funding and being able to swap dangerous intel among themselves, due to cutbacks from Clinton.

    The country didn't have a Homeland secrity program as it is today, and that left the borders, which are still not that great and our airports and sea ports very uprotected.

    The amount of crazy people still coming into this country with bad intentions doesn't make me feel one ounce better, even though i still feel that taking the war out of our backyard and to their's is helping us a bit.

    I truly believe that when the reports were passed to the Bush administration about the possible threat of terroist hijacking planes, he like many felt that this was the untouchable USA and didn't act until it was to late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MUSICMANN View Post


    It was under the Clinton administration, that these guys were able to get into this country and enroll in a flying school and never be questioned about not wanting to learn how to land but just fly.


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    Wrong again.

    http://www.9-11commission.gov/staff_...tatement_1.pdf



    And Bush FOUGHT tooth and nail AGAINST forming the Dept. of Homeland Security.

    Or did you forget that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoungeMachine View Post
    Wrong again.

    http://www.9-11commission.gov/staff_...tatement_1.pdf



    And Bush FOUGHT tooth and nail AGAINST forming the Dept. of Homeland Security.

    Or did you forget that?


    First i never said anything about Bush wanting a Homeland security program or not. And the commission article clearly states that all the highjackers were coming and going back and forth in this country way before Bush took office.

    It also states that the FBI and CIA didn't find anythig crediable to make a bold warning, one way or another.

    These guys had already learned how to fly jets. This happened over yrs. not a few days leading up to 911.

    The attacked happened under Bush, the planning happened under Clinton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MUSICMANN View Post
    You guys have some valid points. Still, you have to remember, that the terroist had been planning this attack well before the Bush administration took office.

    It was under the Clinton administration, that these guys were able to get into this country and enroll in a flying school and never be questioned about not wanting to learn how to land but just fly.
    A flight school, owned by known CIA/BCE "assets", in Jeb Bush's Florida.

    Quote Originally Posted by MUSICMANN View Post
    The FBI and even the CIA took a hard hit in funding and being able to swap dangerous intel among themselves, due to cutbacks from Clinton.

    The country didn't have a Homeland secrity program as it is today, and that left the borders, which are still not that great and our airports and sea ports very uprotected.
    Right. That's why actual terrorists were arrested both in Washington State, and in Maine, by routine Border Patrol inspections during the Clinton administration. Chimpy's Reichland Security has done NOTHING to secure borders or seaports - except try to sell that off to the fucking United Arab Emirates.

    With all the money and bureaucracy at his disposal, Michael "of the Devil" Chertoff should have known about Nazi asshats like this clown Cummings buying fucking uranium and other bomb parts over the Internet. Though the original article doesn't specify, I'd guess this guy had a prior criminal record, a documented history of mental illness, or both. He shouldn't have been allowed to buy a goddamn BB gun, let alone weapons of mass destruction.

    Quote Originally Posted by MUSICMANN View Post
    The amount of crazy people still coming into this country with bad intentions doesn't make me feel one ounce better, even though i still feel that taking the war out of our backyard and to their's is helping us a bit.
    So should we invade Maine now then? I'll personally lead the surge on Kennebunkport, if that's the case.

    Seriously though, despite BCE hysteria to the contrary, the odds of an "external" terrorist threat to this country is minimal. You have the occasional nutcase like this fool, or McVeigh, or Eric Rudolph, Randall Terry, Ted Kaczynski, etc. And even if you completely buy into the "official story" of 9-11-01, then those 19 jackasses with razor blades were in this country legally, and boarded the planes from US airports. No amount of "taking the war out of our backyard" would have prevented that attack, or those of the American "Christian" terraists previously mentioned.


    Quote Originally Posted by MUSICMANN View Post
    I truly believe that when the reports were passed to the Bush administration about the possible threat of terroist hijacking planes, he like many felt that this was the untouchable USA and didn't act until it was to late.
    BZZZZZZT! Does not compute......

    1) John Asscrotch was told NOT to fly commercial airlines some time in mid summer of 2001.

    2) Willie Brown, then Mayor of San Francisco, was warned specifically NOT to fly on 9-11-2001. Though Brown refuses to say exactly who it was that warned him, he and Condasleazea Rice are known to be old friends.

    3) Jeb Bush, as governor of Florida, signed an executive order on 9-7-01, the Friday before the attacks, which would allow him to declare martial law and deploy the National Guard in the streets in the event of an emergency.

    4) Chimpy spent the night of 9-10-01 in a Sarasota FL resort with Secret Service snipers stationed on the roof. Standard operating procedure? Not exactly...... these guys had surface to air missile batteries with them. The same precaution was taken earlier in the summer at the G8 summit, to defend against the possibility of a terrorist attack by airplane. Was Chimpy expecting the same thing in Florida? And for that matter, why was he staying in a hotel when his brother had a mansion with plenty of spare rooms?

    5) Dick Cheney and Poppy Bush had a slumber party in the White House the night of 9-10-01. Now while it might be "prudent" (in Poppy's own words) for the pResident's father to spend the night if he were visiting, remember Chimpy wasn't there. And is it normal for the VP to sleep in the White House if the pResident isn't in town? (I honestly don't know, but I wouldn't think so, since no actual emergency existed YET that night)

    So here you have Poppy, Chimpy, Jeb, and Dick. Four principal members of the BCE, all making sure they were in secured locations, but not together. Why take such a precaution, unless they KNEW the shit was about to hit the fan, and hit it HARD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MUSICMANN View Post
    First i never said anything about Bush wanting a Homeland security program or not. And the commission article clearly states that all the highjackers were coming and going back and forth in this country way before Bush took office.

    It also states that the FBI and CIA didn't find anything credible to make a bold warning, one way or another.

    These guys had already learned how to fly jets. This happened over yrs. not a few days leading up to 911.

    The attacked happened under Bush, the planning happened under Clinton.
    Wrong dude........even in John Ashcroft's book "Never Again" he states the the "Wall" or culture inside the FBI and CIA was so anti-sharing that the FBI didn't even share the information they had on the terra-sit within the FBI because they were scared that it would nullify any legal action they would bring against the terra-ist........they knew about 80% of the 9/11 hijackers prior to 9/11 but because no one would share any of the information no one put the pieces of the puzzle together......hence, the rational behind the DHS....

    I agree Clinton dropped the ball.....hell, days after 9/11 in a rare, frank and candid interview Bill admitted it and maned up. Although, no sane person can subscribe all the blame to Clinton, there was plenty to go around. Ever hear Bush do that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    A flight school, owned by known CIA/BCE "assets", in Jeb Bush's Florida.



    Right. That's why actual terrorists were arrested both in Washington State, and in Maine, by routine Border Patrol inspections during the Clinton administration. Chimpy's Reichland Security has done NOTHING to secure borders or seaports - except try to sell that off to the fucking United Arab Emirates.

    With all the money and bureaucracy at his disposal, Michael "of the Devil" Chertoff should have known about Nazi asshats like this clown Cummings buying fucking uranium and other bomb parts over the Internet. Though the original article doesn't specify, I'd guess this guy had a prior criminal record, a documented history of mental illness, or both. He shouldn't have been allowed to buy a goddamn BB gun, let alone weapons of mass destruction.



    So should we invade Maine now then? I'll personally lead the surge on Kennebunkport, if that's the case.

    Seriously though, despite BCE hysteria to the contrary, the odds of an "external" terrorist threat to this country is minimal. You have the occasional nutcase like this fool, or McVeigh, or Eric Rudolph, Randall Terry, Ted Kaczynski, etc. And even if you completely buy into the "official story" of 9-11-01, then those 19 jackasses with razor blades were in this country legally, and boarded the planes from US airports. No amount of "taking the war out of our backyard" would have prevented that attack, or those of the American "Christian" terraists previously mentioned.




    BZZZZZZT! Does not compute......

    1) John Asscrotch was told NOT to fly commercial airlines some time in mid summer of 2001.

    2) Willie Brown, then Mayor of San Francisco, was warned specifically NOT to fly on 9-11-2001. Though Brown refuses to say exactly who it was that warned him, he and Condasleazea Rice are known to be old friends.

    3) Jeb Bush, as governor of Florida, signed an executive order on 9-7-01, the Friday before the attacks, which would allow him to declare martial law and deploy the National Guard in the streets in the event of an emergency.

    4) Chimpy spent the night of 9-10-01 in a Sarasota FL resort with Secret Service snipers stationed on the roof. Standard operating procedure? Not exactly...... these guys had surface to air missile batteries with them. The same precaution was taken earlier in the summer at the G8 summit, to defend against the possibility of a terrorist attack by airplane. Was Chimpy expecting the same thing in Florida? And for that matter, why was he staying in a hotel when his brother had a mansion with plenty of spare rooms?

    5) Dick Cheney and Poppy Bush had a slumber party in the White House the night of 9-10-01. Now while it might be "prudent" (in Poppy's own words) for the pResident's father to spend the night if he were visiting, remember Chimpy wasn't there. And is it normal for the VP to sleep in the White House if the pResident isn't in town? (I honestly don't know, but I wouldn't think so, since no actual emergency existed YET that night)

    So here you have Poppy, Chimpy, Jeb, and Dick. Four principal members of the BCE, all making sure they were in secured locations, but not together. Why take such a precaution, unless they KNEW the shit was about to hit the fan, and hit it HARD?

    The only thing i have to say is, how the fuck do you guys have the time to look up all this shit. I'm sitting here at my desk taking orders and dealing with my vendors all day. Lot of free time i guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MUSICMANN View Post
    The only thing i have to say is, how the fuck do you guys have the time to look up all this shit. I'm sitting here at my desk taking orders and dealing with my vendors all day. Lot of free time i guess.

    Nice deflection.........it's easy when you have actually read this shit before.

    BTW, Wed and Thurs are my days off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MUSICMANN View Post
    The only thing i have to say is, how the fuck do you guys have the time to look up all this shit. I'm sitting here at my desk taking orders and dealing with my vendors all day. Lot of free time i guess.


    Nice deflection.


    I tried to tell you this, fuckstump. WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

    You can't come in here, spout your Republican Bullshit, and think we're not going to challenge you on THE FACTS.



    Classic.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by MUSICMANN View Post
    . Lot of free time i guess.
    Maybe because we know more than you, and have already beat down weak arguments like your's before....


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    Quote Originally Posted by LoungeMachine View Post
    Maybe because we know more than you, and have already beat down weak arguments like your's before....

    Reading, comprehension and retention......comes to mind, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MUSICMANN View Post
    The only thing i have to say is, how the fuck do you guys have the time to look up all this shit. I'm sitting here at my desk taking orders ....
    -I'll have the Burrito Supreme...no sour cream...1 chicken quesadilla and a a Sprite....

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    I cannot gaurantee, but almost promise you all that our goverment prevents many of these things, and due to security reasons these things never leave the CIA / FBI, Homeland Security, Desk Top.

    We need to keep driving these MF'ers deeper into the rat hole and plinking them in the face, when they pop thier head out.

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    We need to keep driving these MF'ers deeper into the rat hole and plinking them in the face, when they pop thier head out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    I have my doubts as to whether 9-11-01 would have taken place at all, if any competent President had been in the White House.
    I have no doubt we had an incompetent President in the preceding 2 terms who saw the US attacked by the same 9-11 people both onshore and off US shores, or he would have done more than send ONE, count 'em FORD, (1) sub-launched patriot missile into Taliban HQ in response to the US Cole attack.

    He did nothing prior, he ignored further intelligence afterward.

    That's what you get with a Democrat in office more interested in fucking over his wife, not just once or twice but over 20 times. Couldn't focus on legislation and defense, couldn't keep his disk in his CD tray.. is there a connection? I duuuuuno Ford.

    Maybe you're right. Maybe we are so stupid we deserved to be talked to by President Gore's "you're-all-two-year-olds" condescending and placative and Paternalistic speech patterns. However we luckily sidestepped that and kicked some Arab ass that was a big thorn in our side.

    Bush lived, Saddam croaked, and it only cost us 700 billion over 8 years. Now Obama is threatening to cost us 800 billion so the banks can ride their corporate jets for another year or so before they come back for more money.

    Such is the Democratic CHANGE. As in "Can you spare some change?" Even the hobo on the corner at the 7-11 parking lot asking for change begs for it: Obama is just gonna take it.

    Such is the Democratic HOPE. As in "I hope this fucker loses support and this bullshit just blows over like a bad fever"..

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    I cannot gaurantee, but almost promise you all that our goverment prevents many of these things, and due to security reasons these things never leave the CIA / FBI, Homeland Security, Desk Top.
    Due to security reasons, I know you cannot share with us the Secret Knowledge you may possess behind such a guarantee much as you'd like, Thome.

    Thanks for being a true Patriot, and keeping the nations' secrets safe!


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