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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    I'm the first to criticise Simmons in particular so was pretty surprised to hear that too from Rush - Kiss did treat them well over more than one tour I think.

    Seems like such a weird match-up although maybe a bit less so in the mid 70s when it happened.
    Stylistically it does seem a bit of a mismatch.

    I think Rush opened up for KISS during 1974 and 1975, and most if not all the dates took place before Alive! was released. Pre-Alive!, KISS hadn't yet ascended to playing 10,000 + seat venues night after night and selling them out. That whole 1975 Dressed To Kill tour that Alive! was the product of was a patchwork of performing arts theaters, auditoriums, halls, convention centers and the like. I think that the band headlined Cobo Hall for the first time on that 1975 tour and KISS themselves were stunned they sold it out because back then it wasn't their usual experience to sell out a 10,000-seat venue and it wasn't typical of that tour, either.

    It should also be said that a lot of bands didn't want KISS opening for them during KISS's first nationwide concert appearances when KISS were an opening act. Ostensibly because KISS were looked upon as an insincere joke, but perhaps it was a bit closer to the truth that KISS were doing all that then-outrageous stuff onstage and some of those headlining acts KISS was opening for didn't want to be upstaged, plain and simple. And there weren't a lot of bands who wanted to open for KISS pre-Alive! because while KISS got a decent amount of magazine hype due to their image they weren't a band who was even going gold in terms of record sales up to Alive! along with the thing of who wants to go out and open for a band like KISS when you know the entire audience is there for the KISS show, with all the explosions, special effects and the rest of it? It would have to be a band really hungry to work and confident in their own abilities. Back then, Rush were that band, going from tour to tour opening up for whoever they could. Like, I wouldn't say Uriah Heep were stylistically compatible with Rush any more than KISS were, but Rush opened up for them as well during that same time period.

    Plus, back in pre-Alive! 1975, who gave two shits about KISS, much less Rush?
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    Oddly enough both KISS and RUSH broke in what was the manufacturing center of the US. RUSH broke in Cleveland with working man. KISS broke in Detroit. China hadn’t opened up yet and the massive outsourcing hadn’t begun. Cleveland and Detroit had lots of factory workers and those were the people who lived to rock out after a hard shift.

    Alice Cooper loved playing Detroit. He said the audience were auto workers some still in their work clothes and they just spent all day outing cars together and wanted to unwind from the day rocking out.
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    Wasn't that interesting to have found that out re: KISS and Rush both initially breaking out in those working-class, 1970's Middle America regions?

    With Rush, I hadn't been aware of that until their Beyond The Lighted Stage documentary. With KISS, I had found that out upon reading the best book I've ever read about KISS, titled KISS AND SELL which came out in 1997 if memory serves. That book pointed out that in the first few years of the band before the Alive! album hit big, the biggest fans of the band were first found in the heartland states and regions of the country that had those large pockets of working-class kids living in factory towns. KISS had amassed that following by touring heavily in those areas. It wasn't some grand master plan but occurred more by way of happenstance. In the entertainment centers of the country, New York and Los Angeles, KISS were looked upon - certainly by the most heavily circulated pop music publications of the time cicra 1973-1975 - as a bad joke in musical terms, even within the context of the hard rock of the day.

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    Yeah, well, Geddy Lee is a fucking idiot.
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    KISS Plays First Of Two Final-Ever Shows At New York City's Madison Square Garden

    Setlist:

    01. Detroit Rock City
    02. Shout It Out Loud
    03. Deuce
    04. War Machine
    05. Heaven's On Fire
    06. I Love It Loud
    07. Say Yeah
    08. Cold Gin
    09. Guitar Solo
    10. Lick It Up
    11. Calling Dr. Love
    12. Makin' Love
    13. Psycho Circus
    14. Drum Solo
    15. 100,000 Years
    16. Bass Solo
    17. God Of Thunder
    18. Love Gun
    19. I Was Made For Lovin' You
    20. Black Diamond

    Encore:

    21. Beth
    22. Do You Love Me
    23. Rock And Roll All Nite

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    Tonight's show is the PPV so maybe it'll show up on-line in the next couple days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Wasn't that interesting to have found that out re: KISS and Rush both initially breaking out in those working-class, 1970's Middle America regions?

    With Rush, I hadn't been aware of that until their Beyond The Lighted Stage documentary. With KISS, I had found that out upon reading the best book I've ever read about KISS, titled KISS AND SELL which came out in 1997 if memory serves. That book pointed out that in the first few years of the band before the Alive! album hit big, the biggest fans of the band were first found in the heartland states and regions of the country that had those large pockets of working-class kids living in factory towns. KISS had amassed that following by touring heavily in those areas. It wasn't some grand master plan but occurred more by way of happenstance. In the entertainment centers of the country, New York and Los Angeles, KISS were looked upon - certainly by the most heavily circulated pop music publications of the time cicra 1973-1975 - as a bad joke in musical terms, even within the context of the hard rock of the day.
    I bought an amp from a sound engineer that goes by the name Nite Bob. Heís done front of house for some big bands including KISS. We shoot the shit time to time. Heís from NYC and was around when KISS was a local band. He said they werenít that popular in New York. Just another weird band in a city full of weirdos.

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    What sold KISS was the big live show experience. The Alive albums were a good marketing move. Factory workers like escape. They love sports. They love rock and roll. They work hard and play hard. Nobody works in a factory for the fun of it. You do your time and reward yourself with a concert.

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    Kinda saw this coming

    During their encore, the band’s current lineup — founders Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons as well as guitarist Tommy Thayer and drummer Eric Singer — left the stage to reveal digital avatars of themselves. After the transformation, the virtual Kiss launched into a performance of “God Gave Rock and Roll to You.”
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    I can't see going to watch that in an arena. Maybe at a movie theater.

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    Last part of the show


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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    I can't see going to watch that in an arena. Maybe at a movie theater.

    Just like the real thing - out of time lip synching...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Just like the real thing - out of time lip synching...
    and they made Stanley look 30 years younger!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Wasn't that interesting to have found that out re: KISS and Rush both initially breaking out in those working-class, 1970's Middle America regions?

    With Rush, I hadn't been aware of that until their Beyond The Lighted Stage documentary. With KISS, I had found that out upon reading the best book I've ever read about KISS, titled KISS AND SELL which came out in 1997 if memory serves. That book pointed out that in the first few years of the band before the Alive! album hit big, the biggest fans of the band were first found in the heartland states and regions of the country that had those large pockets of working-class kids living in factory towns. KISS had amassed that following by touring heavily in those areas. It wasn't some grand master plan but occurred more by way of happenstance. In the entertainment centers of the country, New York and Los Angeles, KISS were looked upon - certainly by the most heavily circulated pop music publications of the time cicra 1973-1975 - as a bad joke in musical terms, even within the context of the hard rock of the day.
    They seem to be getting on with each other here.



    Gene seems to have been teetotal in the same way as Ted Nugent.

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    I’m ready for KISS to go. I’m tired of hearing about them. I wish them and Sammy Hagar would fall into Oprah’s ass and disappear.

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    I'll still listen to the stuff they did, say, circa 1975-1982 now and then. I still get a bang out of that stuff.

    Far as the band's career, I can't say I've really cared one way or the other if they kept touring since...oh, right about the time that Detroit Rock City flick came out. I recall when Criss quit in 2000 or 2001 or whenever it was, then Frehley left a year or so later, then Criss came back for a tour and then left in...2004? Didn't care about any of it, because even by THEN the whole classic Kiss makeup reunion thing had gone on a few years too long. And all that was twenty years ago.

    When I saw 'em live a couple years ago, I basically went because the missus wanted to go. It was an okay night out, nothing more/nothing less. What I SHOULD have done was see the band during the 1996-1998 period when they first reunited, when I was still young enough to actually be enthused that they were back together, because then the concert would have meant a bit more to me than the one I recently saw did. But, whatever.

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    I donít know who wrote worse lyrics. Gene and Paul or Sammy Hagar.

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    I suppose the difference is at one time 40 + years ago in my pre-teens I thought KISS was cool.

    I never thought Sammy Hagar was cool. Even before he joined Van Halen, while I didn't despise his music, Sammy Hagar always came off as someone trying hard to act cool...and not succeeding in it.

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    I liked KISS because my sister hated them. That motivated me to wall paper my room with KISS posters and crank the KISS music.

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    For me it was Sammy who? Until he polluted Van Halen. Sam is about as thrilling as getting a prostate exam from Ted Cruz pretending to be a doctor.

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    Why Kiss' Dressing Rooms Always Smelled Like Burnt Toast
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    Ace Frehley Looking For Beer Commercial He Made With Rick Nielsen

    Recalling his times with Cheap Trick, he said: ďIím still looking for a tape. I did a beer commercial with Rick
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    and put it on YouTube. That was a lot of fun.Ē

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    Like a lot of people, I was a huge kiss fan..I think Alive was the first lp I ever owned..a few years later I turned 12 and that was that,,,I am interested to see how they promote the 50 year anniversary next year..
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    You can start by doing what all gullible KISS fans do - by giving them your money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    For me it was Sammy who? Until he polluted Van Halen. Sam is about as thrilling as getting a prostate exam from Ted Cruz pretending to be a doctor.
    I had heard of Hagar before he joined Van Halen but hadn't heard much of his music.

    Prior to 1985, I had heard Your Love Is Driving Me Crazy, the song Heavy Metal from watching the film, Three Lock Box from the video on MTV, Two Sides Of Love from the video on MTV and I Can't Drive 55 from the video on MTV. I may have heard some other stuff of his before he hooked up with Van Halen but nothing I can remember. It wasn't like he was getting massive airplay prior to the I Can't Drive 55 song and in the early 1980s he wasn't someone anybody in my early teens peer group listened to or talked about. That's why when it was announced Hagar was going to replace Roth in Van Halen the reaction was along the lines of "really? The I Can't Drive 55 guy?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairwrning View Post
    Like a lot of people, I was a huge kiss fan..I think Alive was the first lp I ever owned..a few years later I turned 12 and that was that,,,I am interested to see how they promote the 50 year anniversary next year..
    Now back by popular demand, KISS has unretired and will do a 3-year residency in Vegas featuring A Night Of KISS...Alive! The Klassic live album played live from start-to-finish for the first time in 50 years!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Now back by popular demand, KISS has unretired and will do a 3-year residency in Vegas featuring A Night Of KISS...Alive! The Klassic live album played live from start-to-finish for the first time in 50 years!!
    I expect something along the lines of what GNR did with Use Your Illusion..500 bucks for rehashed lps and a box of useless shit ( I would have liked the blue ray though)...

    I expesct a little less for the rest of them as the 50 year mark goes by...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    I had heard of Hagar before he joined Van Halen but hadn't heard much of his music.

    Prior to 1985, I had heard Your Love Is Driving Me Crazy, the song Heavy Metal from watching the film, Three Lock Box from the video on MTV, Two Sides Of Love from the video on MTV and I Can't Drive 55 from the video on MTV. I may have heard some other stuff of his before he hooked up with Van Halen but nothing I can remember. It wasn't like he was getting massive airplay prior to the I Can't Drive 55 song and in the early 1980s he wasn't someone anybody in my early teens peer group listened to or talked about. That's why when it was announced Hagar was going to replace Roth in Van Halen the reaction was along the lines of "really? The I Can't Drive 55 guy?"
    Hagar played a college town I used to go see concerts at. It was the Three Lock Box tour. Someone stole his backdrop. Sammy sent the message he would never play that town again if the backdrop wasnít returned. Nobody cared. Of course he played there again with Van Halen.

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    Gene and Paul have HUGE egos. When you can still sell places out while charging a lot and the fans buy your merchandise and suck your dick thatís hard to give up.

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    KISS isnít stupid. Their fans are. Ace even recently said this. Ha! Ha! Made me like Ace even more.

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    Itís not over. We will see the KISS Suck My Dick! Tour in 2025.

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    Iím really getting tired of Sammy Gay-Dar popping up on social media begging for attention. Heís worse than Gene and Paul.

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    Sammy should be shoved up Donald Trumpís ass and Trump should be shoved up Joe Bidenís ass and the whole train wreck should be launched into outer space on Elon Muskís giant flying dildo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairwrning View Post
    I expect something along the lines of what GNR did with Use Your Illusion..500 bucks for rehashed lps and a box of useless shit ( I would have liked the blue ray though)...

    I expesct a little less for the rest of them as the 50 year mark goes by...
    I suppose for middle-aged collectivists who absolutely have to have every bit of merchandise, such an Alive! box set would be a must-have.

    Myself, I don't think I've ever went out and bought any remasters or reissues of anything from anybody unless it was a release I didn't already have.

    That's talking music, anyway. There are some movies I already had on dvd that I bought blu-ray editions of if the blu-ray editions were loaded with extras exclusive to the blu-ray edition.

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