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    Porn in the USA: Conservatives are biggest consumers

    Porn in the USA: Conservatives are biggest consumers - science-in-society - 27 February 2009 - New Scientist

    Americans may paint themselves in increasingly bright shades of red and blue, but new research finds one thing that varies little across the nation: the liking for online pornography.

    A new nationwide study (pdf) of anonymised credit-card receipts from a major online adult entertainment provider finds little variation in consumption between states.

    "When it comes to adult entertainment, it seems people are more the same than different," says Benjamin Edelman at Harvard Business School.

    However, there are some trends to be seen in the data. Those states that do consume the most porn tend to be more conservative and religious than states with lower levels of consumption, the study finds.

    "Some of the people who are most outraged turn out to be consumers of the very things they claimed to be outraged by," Edelman says.
    Political divide

    Edelman spends part of his time helping companies such as Microsoft and AOL detect advertising fraud. Another consulting client runs dozens of adult websites, though he says he is not at liberty to identify the firm.

    That company did, however, provide Edelman with roughly two years of credit card data from 2006 to 2008 that included a purchase date and each customer's postal code.

    After controlling for differences in broadband internet access between states – online porn tends to be a bandwidth hog – and adjusting for population, he found a relatively small difference between states with the most adult purchases and those with the fewest.

    The biggest consumer, Utah, averaged 5.47 adult content subscriptions per 1000 home broadband users; Montana bought the least with 1.92 per 1000. "The differences here are not so stark," Edelman says.

    Number 10 on the list was West Virginia at 2.94 subscriptions per 1000, while number 41, Michigan, averaged 2.32.

    Eight of the top 10 pornography consuming states gave their electoral votes to John McCain in last year's presidential election – Florida and Hawaii were the exceptions. While six out of the lowest 10 favoured Barack Obama.
    Old-fashioned values

    Church-goers bought less online porn on Sundays – a 1% increase in a postal code's religious attendance was associated with a 0.1% drop in subscriptions that day. However, expenditures on other days of the week brought them in line with the rest of the country, Edelman finds.

    Residents of 27 states that passed laws banning gay marriages boasted 11% more porn subscribers than states that don't explicitly restrict gay marriage.

    To get a better handle on other associations between social attitudes and pornography consumption, Edelman melded his data with a previous study on public attitudes toward religion.

    States where a majority of residents agreed with the statement "I have old-fashioned values about family and marriage," bought 3.6 more subscriptions per thousand people than states where a majority disagreed. A similar difference emerged for the statement "AIDS might be God's punishment for immoral sexual behaviour."

    "One natural hypothesis is something like repression: if you're told you can't have this, then you want it more," Edelman says.

    Journal reference: Journal of Economic Perspectives vol 23, p 209 (pdf)

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    This fits with all the anecdotes from bands that say that the most abundant and extreme groupies are in places like Salt Lake City.

    I saw a bit of research a few years back which had the insane statistic that 25% of strippers went to all girl convent schools...

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    This may well be the 'Perfect Storm' of DLR Army threads...

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    Societies that repress normal sexuality tend to breed the biggest perverts. The Mormon church even admits it's has a porn addiction problem with it's men. When I was in Kuwait I couldn't believe all the porn and adult shops there. Muslim men are huge horn dogs because they exist in a strict religious system that fucks with normal human sexual development.

    The more normal sexuality is repressed and made to be dirty, more perverts are the result.

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    I was raised in a Mormon home and attended BYU my first semester. I got more ass than a toilet seat there. Mormon girls have a wild streak and then they get married and go back to being conservative. It's almost like they sew their oats before they have to get married and settle down. Lot's of Scandinavians joined the church and migrated to Utah so the women there are hot too. Good to fuck. I can see why David Lee Roth loved to roll into Salt Lake City.

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    Maybe conservatives are watching more than liberals because libs are out there getting it for real. Ya know, that free love hippy spirit crap. Plus if a lib gets knocked up they don't worry about actually having the kid.
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    Well, it's just an odd thing...

    I enjoy looking at pornography, but for me sex is best when it is a part of or one component of a meaningful relationship. Yes, casual sex is enjoyable, too, but the enjoyment only lasts until the climax.

    Porn these days is just extreme close-ups of the mechanics of intercourse. The sad part about the explosion of the porn industry is that there isn't even really any pretense anymore with the younger generation of performers as to if they actually enjoy performing it. They come across as very detached, clinical and businesslike when they fuck for the camera now...I'd almost rather watch an amateur voyeur cam of two reasonably attractive people who didn't know they were being filmed than a slick, contemporary professional production with bad acting.

    Juxtaposed with my enjoyment of porn is a sense that while porn can be an aid to destigmatizing the taboo of sex, it simultaneously cheapens and sleazes up an activity that can be one of the most beautiful expressions of emotion between two people that care about each other. So porn and sexual exhibitionism in various forms puts a price tag on sex...kind of makes dirty what should be openly identified as a beautiful thing. That's the real Catch-22 about the porn biz for me.
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    What went through my mind was maybe Republicans are too dumb to know how to get porn for free?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadaist View Post
    Maybe conservatives are watching more than liberals because libs are out there getting it for real. Ya know, that free love hippy spirit crap.
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    What a load of bullshit. You need more data. You need to know what number of the number per thousand were liberal or conservative to make that statement.Just because the majority of the state leans one way doesn't mean shit.The state leans right but for instance 4 of the 5 per 1000 that buy porn lean left.Could you still claim right wingers buy more porn than left because the majority of the state leans right ?Hell no.And these mo fo's are scientists?

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    Anyone that has ever worked in the IT industry servicing
    home computers, will tell you the same thing...
    every PC has porn on it !

    There's good and bad sides to this obviously. I think the
    best thing (as we know) is Men are genetically programmed
    to get as much action with as many women possible
    in a single lifetime. While all good and fun, when you
    are married and become comitted to the one person,
    its a pricks act to run around bonking every piece
    of ass within a mile, just because of these prehistoric
    instincts. I can see how online Porn is good in these
    situations, really men have no excuse to be
    physically unfaithful to their wives as long as
    porn and the internet are available..

    The bad side ? Obviously Kiddie porn and children
    accessing porn before they are mentally ready to
    truly understand what the hell is going down....

    But if parents are responsible with their computers
    (filters etc) and supervise their kids, I think porn
    is saving many potential rapes and
    marital cheating. From this resepect porn is
    a good thing.... mmmkay....
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    Of course we all know that anything you post on this topic will be read by your pregnant wife so who knows what you really think...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Don't I wish
    Yup. I've been married for 20 years. That's a guarantee not to get any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Of course we all know that anything you post on this topic will be read by your pregnant wife so who knows what you really think...


    oops....

    Hopefully that was acceptable from a pregnant wives
    perspective !! lol.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panamark View Post
    Anyone that has ever worked in the IT industry servicing
    home computers, will tell you the same thing...
    every PC has porn on it !

    There's good and bad sides to this obviously. I think the
    best thing (as we know) is Men are genetically programmed
    to get as much action with as many women possible
    in a single lifetime. While all good and fun, when you
    are married and become comitted to the one person,
    its a pricks act to run around bonking every piece
    of ass within a mile, just because of these prehistoric
    instincts. I can see how online Porn is good in these
    situations, really men have no excuse to be
    physically unfaithful to their wives as long as
    porn and the internet are available..

    The bad side ? Obviously Kiddie porn and children
    accessing porn before they are mentally ready to
    truly understand what the hell is going down....

    But if parents are responsible with their computers
    (filters etc) and supervise their kids, I think porn
    is saving many potential rapes and
    marital cheating. From this resepect porn is
    a good thing.... mmmkay....
    When I was finishing up my degree in finance the dean of the business school was trying to get us to use the internet for our research. This was the pre search engine days and you had to know what server, drive, and file you wanted. You had to type in HTML codes. It was a royal pain in the ass so nobody used it. Then one day someone discovered porn on one server. The internet became popular. LOL!

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    You may be in deep trouble Mark.

    One interpretation of your post is that the only thing that is keeping you faithful is your porn collection.

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    Some people get addicted to porn like how some people get addicted to food, drugs, cigarettes, booze ect...

    For me porn was fun when I was a young. A stash of Playboys and Penthouses was always a find. Then when home video happened man that was great. I had my stash of porn and it really was about learning about sex and nastiness. Then when you got it for real you realized you knew nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    You may be in deep trouble Mark.

    One interpretation of your post is that the only thing that is keeping you faithful is your porn collection.

    Thanks a lot mate ! Throw me to the wolves ya bugger

    To be honest, she is not stupid, she has full access to
    the same sections of this site as we all do, and theres Porn
    all over the place. We have sat at the same PC and laughed
    at all sorts of stuff on here. I married her, not some graphic
    on the screen

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    Most Rethuglican men I've run into are a bit of a paradox: claim to be religious while telling me of the most fucked-up fetishes I've ever heard. No, I'm not going to tie you up and beat you while you wear a dress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Some people get addicted to porn like how some people get addicted to food, drugs, cigarettes, booze ect...

    For me porn was fun when I was a young. A stash of Playboys and Penthouses was always a find. Then when home video happened man that was great. I had my stash of porn and it really was about learning about sex and nastiness. Then when you got it for real you realized you knew nothing.
    I remember thinking (and still to this day) that those dudes
    all came too quickly....

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    Instead of using the red or blue state bullshit they decided to use some other criteria
    such as a state having a higher percent of one race or more women than men you
    could twist this to say one race or one gender buys more porn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Most Rethuglican men I've run into are a bit of a paradox: claim to be religious while telling me of the most fucked-up fetishes I've ever heard. No, I'm not going to tie you up and beat you while you wear a dress.

    Baptist ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panamark View Post
    Baptist ??
    No, Sammy Hagar fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Most Rethuglican men I've run into are a bit of a paradox: claim to be religious while telling me of the most fucked-up fetishes I've ever heard. No, I'm not going to tie you up and beat you while you wear a dress.
    The more rules you have in a religion the more it makes the members liars. Then they get used to lying and because they have to keep a polished image they get sneaky. This affects them in all sorts of weird ways. The indulge, feel guilty and hate themselves and indulge again. If they are homosexual conservative Republicans they tend to gay bash the most and then trawl public restrooms ala Idaho Republican Senator Larry Craig for it. The kink out bad.

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    They want more than kink. They want to live out their repressed sexual urges in the most fucked up ways imaginable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    No, Sammy Hagar fans.
    Makes perfect sense ! You should have bashed the crap
    out of em !

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    I had a good laugh in Caracas Venzuala when they had all these really nice whore house establishments with drive in garage parking. Because of the conservative religious nature of the people there, they don't want to be seen going into the whore house. It's the the same it's just in certain areas it's sneaky, sneaky. If there is one constant in the world. It's sex and prostitution.

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    Yeah I know it was a lame joke Panamark But I couldn't help myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    They want more than kink. They want to live out their repressed sexual urges in the most fucked up ways imaginable.
    That's what I meant by kink. One reason so much porn now is one big freak show. The conservative repressed types are the customers of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panamark View Post
    I remember thinking (and still to this day) that those dudes
    all came too quickly....
    That old school porn just made my laugh. It was so cheesy and my hell the noises they would make. It was particularly funny when the dude started to moan louder than the chick he was banging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    That old school porn just made my laugh. It was so cheesy and my hell the noises they would make. It was particularly funny when the dude started to moan louder than the chick he was banging.
    LOL ! Yeah, that is funny

    I reckon the european ones that were overdubbed into english were
    a crack up too.. I remember one where it was seriously funny, but
    I'm sure they didnt mean for it to be when they made it..
    (Wish I still had it)

    Lines like this: (One of the dudes visiting this prostitute had an
    overdubbed thick scottish accent)

    Dude: Ahhhh... Its like Scotland in yer bum !! (as he bonks her ass)
    Prostitute: What ? All Heathers and Roses ??
    Dude: Noooooooo !! Its Dark, Damp and Smells just like Glasgow !!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    When I was finishing up my degree in finance the dean of the business school was trying to get us to use the internet for our research. This was the pre search engine days and you had to know what server, drive, and file you wanted. You had to type in HTML codes. It was a royal pain in the ass so nobody used it. Then one day someone discovered porn on one server. The internet became popular. LOL!
    I can remember having to download porn from local BBS's before the Internet came to my neck of the woods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    They want more than kink. They want to live out their repressed sexual urges in the most fucked up ways imaginable.
    Rush Limpdick making trips to the Dominican Republic to fuck underage boys is a prime example of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Texan View Post
    Rush Limpdick making trips to the Dominican Republic to fuck underage boys is a prime example of this.
    This man wouldn't fuck underage boys would he? You don't see him in a hotel room with little boys do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Texan View Post
    I can remember having to download porn from local BBS's before the Internet came to my neck of the woods.
    The kid's today don't know what balls it took to walk into a Seven Eleven at age 15 and buy a Penthouse and the thrill of actually getting away with it. Being able to surf porn for free was an unphathomal dream in those days. No wonder kids today are so fucked up. They have easy access to everything and are spoiled rotten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Texan View Post
    I can remember having to download porn from local BBS's before the Internet came to my neck of the woods.
    'having to' - at gunpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panamark View Post
    I remember thinking (and still to this day) that those dudes
    all came too quickly....
    That's funny because I remember meeting up with a pal the day after the night before.

    We had been out and he had pulled an Australian girl.

    He told me he thought he was doing great lasting ages banging her until she said to him 'Hev ya nat sliiimed yet'?

    He said it really ruined the mood for him...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    That's funny because I remember meeting up with a pal the day after the night before.

    We had been out and he had pulled an Australian girl.

    He told me he thought he was doing great lasting ages banging her until she said to him 'Hev ya nat sliiimed yet'?

    He said it really ruined the mood for him...

    LOL !

    Seems some translation is in order here..

    'Hev ya nat sliiimed yet'?

    in english means, "Is your penis inside me ?"

    Your mate's nickname is not "pinprick" by
    any chance ??

    At least she showed manners..

    I'll take Kylie and you can have.... um.... err..... hmmm
    Sheena Easton ?

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    We assumed it was had he not come?

    Damn it was years ago and I've lost touch with the guy to tell him the news!

    I think they were both pretty drunk.

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