Van Halen - Fresh (1984 Demo)

**WARF** · 05-02-2009, 03:13 AM

**Romeo Delight** · 05-02-2009, 04:00 AM

I always thought that would have been a better song than Top Jimmy

**Dan** · 05-02-2009, 04:11 AM

That Fresh track was not Van Halen.
(Guitarist was playing through a Tom Scholtz
Rockman.)

Thanks,ThrillsNSpills For Infor.

**WARF** · 05-02-2009, 04:12 AM

Originally Posted by Dan

That Fresh track was not Van Halen.
(Guitarist was playing through a Tom Scholtz
Rockman.)

Thanks,ThrillsNSpills For Infor.

Bullshit.

**Dan** · 05-02-2009, 04:18 AM

Originally Posted by WARF

Bullshit.

Brother WARF,I Posted The Same Song Over At RothFans.

**WARF** · 05-02-2009, 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by Dan

Brother WARF,I Posted The Same Song Over At RothFans.

This is Definately Ed's work... i'd be shocked if it wasn't.

**Dan** · 05-02-2009, 04:25 AM

Originally Posted by WARF

This is Definately Ed's work... i'd be shocked if it wasn't.

Prove Me Wrong And I Will Eat My Hat.

Anyone?

**darkknight** · 05-02-2009, 05:22 AM

Does not sound like VH. That sounds like a mess. Guitar sound is shit. Drums sound is shit. The playing is shit. You guys must be deaf.

**ELVIS** · 05-02-2009, 05:23 AM

It sounds like Ed and Alex to me although it's a terrible song...

**Cato** · 05-02-2009, 05:27 AM

it sounds like a demo track which was recorded by a tribute band of Journey.

**Nickdfresh** · 05-02-2009, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by darkknight

Does not sound like VH. That sounds like a mess. Guitar sound is shit. Drums sound is shit. The playing is shit. You guys must be deaf.

Hence the reason it was a demo....

**ELVIS** · 05-02-2009, 06:11 AM

Dude, that's easily Edward...

**ELVIS** · 05-02-2009, 06:19 AM

It's not even a demo, it's Edward and Alex trying out an idea...

**ThrillsNSpills** · 05-02-2009, 09:53 AM

Lol.
thanks Danno

Have you fuckers heard Act Like it Hurts?

yeah you have.

sounds a little different than this, doesn't it.

*Fred Rogers voice* sure...sure it does

did you ask your deaf selves if that was Van Halen or not?

no.

why is that?

(this is the part where you're supposed to think)

because it was obvious as the balls on a tall dog.

Act Like it Hurts was an outtake of what? Women and Children. This was supposedly from 84. they sure forgot how to play suddenly didn't they?

These guys even when hammered could still play well then.

now before WARF thinks Thrills is a Jackass for this post-quick question?

when's the last time you played through a Rockman?

Ed didn't lose the ability to tune until 2004.

Were these the same Bozos that flamed me when I said VH did Get Down tonight in the clubs? (would have loved to be wrong)

ignore the condescending tone. Make up what you want . I'm just giving you some points to not think about.

**indeedido** · 05-02-2009, 10:06 AM

This is what Ed has 10 albums worth of stuff in the can up at Howdy Doody Mountain

**Onofrio** · 05-02-2009, 10:13 AM

Definitely Not VH. Not even close

**Hummarstra** · 05-02-2009, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Onofrio

Definitely Not VH. Not even close

I agree. Sounds like a couple of Ed and Alex wannabees.

**bueno bob** · 05-02-2009, 12:51 PM

"Fresh" was almost universally determined to be bogus years ago. It's intended to sound like a Van Halen unreleased song, but apparently it's not, that's just how it was recorded. It was discredited as a Van Halen song about the same time "Black Star", "All That I Need" and "Sleepless Nights" were revealed to be George Lynch and Mick Brown's first band.

**ThrillsNSpills** · 05-02-2009, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by darkknight

Does not sound like VH. That sounds like a mess. Guitar sound is shit. Drums sound is shit. The playing is shit. You guys must be deaf.

Marlee Matlin knew it wasn't them.

**VAiN** · 05-02-2009, 01:12 PM

I've heard this before.... no way it's VH, especially not 1984.

**Terry** · 05-02-2009, 01:33 PM

Suppose it COULD be the Van Halens and Mike (sounds like there is a bass in there)...regardless of who it actually was, some decent ideas in there.

**ELVIS** · 05-02-2009, 02:30 PM

It IS Van Halen you fucking retards!

I think it's from the 5150 era as it has that guitar sound...

I play guitar bass and drums and have studied Van Halen since I was 12...

EVERY BIT of the guitar is characteristic Edward, and the drums sound like Alex...

What little bass you can hear could easily be Anthony...

What if Right Now never made it on an album, but a practice demo got leaked. Would you queers insist it's not Van halen ??

**FORD** · 05-02-2009, 03:01 PM

If somebody told me this was a demo from the 2004 "Upchuck Your Breakfast" sessions, I might believe it. Or even the Ou82muchcheese sessions because of the electronic drum kit.

But no way this is from 1984. And the tapping parts of the solo sound so lame that it couldn't possibly be Eddie. Unless it was during the Velveetapalooza Trainwreck '04 era, as I said before.

Van HALEN at their peak? Not a chance in Hell.

**WARF** · 05-02-2009, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by ELVIS

What if Right Now never made it on an album, but a practice demo got leaked. Would you queers insist it's not Van halen ??

Yes. It's Van Hagar!

**FORD** · 05-02-2009, 03:11 PM

Well.... actually there was a demo from somewhere around 1984 with Eddie playing what would later be the keyboard intro to "Right Now", but he was playing it on guitar.

I think it ended up in that horrible sounding bootleg compilation that Brad $tarks circulated through the VHML about 10 years ago, but I haven't heard it since.

**Nickdfresh** · 05-02-2009, 03:30 PM

Maybe after Dave left and before Hagar came in?

**darkknight** · 05-02-2009, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by ELVIS

It IS Van Halen you fucking retards!

I think it's from the 5150 era as it has that guitar sound...

I play guitar bass and drums and have studied Van Halen since I was 12...

EVERY BIT of the guitar is characteristic Edward, and the drums sound like Alex...

What little bass you can hear could easily be Anthony...

What if Right Now never made it on an album, but a practice demo got leaked. Would you queers insist it's not Van halen ??

Well I've been playing guitar, bass, drums, keyboards, mandolin, etc... for 30 years and swung from Ed's nutsack the first 10 and this IS NOT Ed and Alex. This is garbage. It's a couple of assholes playing through a Rockman and trash cans in Finland. This is bullshit. Not even close.

I sent the link to Michael Anthony's website to see if he can answer for sure. I asked a couple weeks ago about the Gentlemen of Leisure demo that was recorded in '74 at Cherokee Studio and asked if he played on it. Surprisingly, he responded and said it wasn't him and most likely Mark Stone. Maybe he can answer this as well.

**ELVIS** · 05-02-2009, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by FORD

If somebody told me this was a demo from the 2004 "Upchuck Your Breakfast" sessions, I might believe it. Or even the Ou82muchcheese sessions because of the electronic drum kit.

Alex started messing with electronic drums prior to 1984...

I think this is 5150 or later perhaps...

**Terry** · 05-02-2009, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by ELVIS

It IS Van Halen you fucking retards!

I think it's from the 5150 era as it has that guitar sound...

I play guitar bass and drums and have studied Van Halen since I was 12...

EVERY BIT of the guitar is characteristic Edward, and the drums sound like Alex...

What little bass you can hear could easily be Anthony...

What if Right Now never made it on an album, but a practice demo got leaked. Would you queers insist it's not Van halen ??

I'd say the drums, both the sound and style, certainly felt to me like something I'd imagine AVH would or could do...not sure if the toms were acoustic roto-toms, electronic, or a combination of both...the guitar work didin't impress upon me the notion "yes, this is EVH" quite as strongly as the drums did with AVH. It could well be a VH demo...a neat jam / series of riffs in any case.

**Coyote** · 05-02-2009, 07:55 PM

IIRC, it's a couple of swedes having a lark...

**ELVIS** · 05-02-2009, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by Terry

I'd say the drums, both the sound and style, certainly felt to me like something I'd imagine AVH would or could do...

That's what I think as well, same goes for the guitar...

And being a poor quality MP3 of a crappy recording to begin with I can see how the Rockman comments could be made...

But if you listen on a good system, not computer speakers, you can tell the guitar sound as well as the bass drums sound similar to the sounds they had around '86 or later...

**ELVIS** · 05-02-2009, 08:04 PM

Did someone delete one of my posts ??

I made a lengthy reply to dorknight and it's not there...

**FORD** · 05-02-2009, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by Coyote

IIRC, it's a couple of swedes having a lark...

Those two Swedes?

**Top Jimmy** · 05-02-2009, 09:24 PM

sounds a bit like parts of Pleasure Dome from Van hagar

**ELVIS** · 05-02-2009, 09:47 PM

That's got some truth to it, I think...

Good call...

**darkknight** · 05-03-2009, 03:41 AM

Originally Posted by ELVIS

Did someone delete one of my posts ??

I made a lengthy reply to dorknight and it's not there...

Fuck you, junior. Get your head out of your ass. It ain't them. Nobody wants to read your blather.

**ELVIS** · 05-03-2009, 03:44 AM

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**Coyote** · 05-03-2009, 06:27 AM

Originally Posted by FORD

Those two Swedes?

Nah, then it would've sounded like "One Night In Bangkok"...

**Coyote** · 05-03-2009, 06:38 AM

But consider this...

If this truly is a honest-to-deity VH demo...

Why isn't this on any VH demo bootleg?
(check Van Halen Bootlegs )

**ELVIS** · 05-03-2009, 07:21 AM

Because it's no good with no vocals...

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