Today in History - August 6 - Hiroshima

[Mushroom]

August 6, 1945 - World War II: Hiroshima is devastated when the atomic bomb "Little Boy" is dropped by the United States B-29 Enola Gay. Around 70,000 people are killed instantly, and some tens of thousands die in subsequent years from burns and radiation poisoning.

the significance of this very day can be disputed but I know that we dropped a bomb to end a war, in the process killing 10's of thousands, but saved 100's of thousands of lives. what if we didn't "drop the bomb"? how many more lives would be lost? Fortunately, now Japan is our ally.

Congratulations to the US in one of it's last real shows of military might. ever since then, pussies have ruled our military with a strategy to back down and show restraint and weakness.

what about the Korean War? If we dropped the bomb on those guys back in the 50's, maybe they would be our friends today, and we wouldn't have some nutcase in command, and a school breeding hatred for the US.

[sadaist]

what about the Korean War? ... maybe they would be our friends today

Well, good ole Bill was just hanging out with Kim Jong Ill. Kim Jong even gave Bill two women as a parting gift. What a flight back that probably was.

[jhale667]

Congratulations to the US in one of it's last real shows of military might. ever since then, pussies have ruled our military with a strategy to back down and show restraint and weakness.

So we should just bomb the fuck out of whomever we disagree with? Kill hundreds of thousands to prove a point rather than take a more diplomatic and humanitarian approach??

[sadaist]

So we should just bomb the fuck out of whomever we disagree with? Kill hundreds of thousands to prove a point rather than take a more diplomatic and humanitarian approach??

I wouldn't call WW II a disagreement. Pearl Harbor wasn't a very diplomatic nor humanitarian approach.

[jhale667]

I wouldn't call WW II a disagreement. Pearl Harbor wasn't a very diplomatic nor humanitarian approach.

True, but the body count wasn't in the hundreds of thousands, and this tool is implying we should settle EVERY conflict in that manner.

[Seshmeister]

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the significance of this very day can be disputed but I know that we dropped a bomb to end a war, in the process killing 10's of thousands, but saved 100's of thousands of lives.

That is very very debatable and probably just the propoganda used at the time.

Many historians have shown that the Japs were about to surrender anyway and the bombs were dropped to scare the soviets.

[Mushroom]

So we should just bomb the fuck out of whomever we disagree with? Kill hundreds of thousands to prove a point rather than take a more diplomatic and humanitarian approach??

no, you're taking my words to the extreme. I'm referring to our "cut and run" strategy that our enemies laugh at because we don't show any resolve. what's next? run from Afghanistan? I'm not saying we should start wars, Iraq was a big fucking mistake. but I'm saying if we start it, we better finish it. And sometimes to finish it means a show of strength.

[Mushroom]

True, but the body count wasn't in the hundreds of thousands, and this tool is implying we should settle EVERY conflict in that manner.

Again, you're misinterpreting my words. I didn't say the body count was in the 100's of thousands. I said the body count, including the US, could have been raised 10's or 100's of thousands more if we did not drop the bomb!

[Mushroom]

That is very very debatable and probably just the propoganda used at the time.

Many historians have shown that the Japs were about to surrender anyway and the bombs were dropped to scare the soviets.

sorry Sesh, but in War, it's better the enemy, than me or my country. What if some country comes to invade US? A foreign military on US soil. We have a bunch of pansies and pussies in the US that would not show any resolve. compare that to those guys in Afghanistan.

[Seshmeister]

I often wonder why many Americans seem to live in fear all the time about stuff that will not happen.

[jhale667]

Do you work for FAUX News, or just want to?

What if some country comes to invade US? A foreign military on US soil. We have a bunch of pansies and pussies in the US that would not show any resolve. compare that to those guys in Afghanistan.

That is such a retarded, worst-case scenario premise to begin with. The only country with a large enough army to do that is China, and they don't have the means to physically GET their troops here en masse, so we're probably OK on that one...

[Mushroom]

That is such a retarded, worst-case scenario premise to begin with. The only country with a large enough army to do that is China, and they don't have the means to physically GET their troops here en masse, so we're probably OK on that one...

I know that. the US will be a Super Power Evil Empire for Eternity!!!

[Kristy]

That is very very debatable and probably just the propoganda used at the time.

Many historians have shown that the Japs were about to surrender anyway and the bombs were dropped to scare the soviets.

You mean many revisionist and the anti-nuclear crowd. Japan had no intention of surrender. In fact, if you studied history at all Japan was preparing its citizens for landing invasions by order of the Emperor instead of opting for surrender conditions. As for the Soviets they had no idea what an atomic bomb was at the time apart from what little information their spies had reported back to the Stalin government; Hiroshima itself was a city chosen simply because it had a good share of the pie in airplane manufacturing which had to be crushed before an invasion (which was still on the charts) to begin.

[bueno bob]

August 6, 1945 - World War II: Hiroshima is devastated when the atomic bomb "Little Boy" is dropped by the United States B-29 Enola Gay. Around 70,000 people are killed instantly, and some tens of thousands die in subsequent years from burns and radiation poisoning.

the significance of this very day can be disputed but I know that we dropped a bomb to end a war, in the process killing 10's of thousands, but saved 100's of thousands of lives. what if we didn't "drop the bomb"? how many more lives would be lost? Fortunately, now Japan is our ally.

Congratulations to the US in one of it's last real shows of military might. ever since then, pussies have ruled our military with a strategy to back down and show restraint and weakness.

what about the Korean War? If we dropped the bomb on those guys back in the 50's, maybe they would be our friends today, and we wouldn't have some nutcase in command, and a school breeding hatred for the US.

Here's a good idea - let's just fucking kill EVERYBODY on the planet, other than Americans. I mean, who knows when some country is going to attack us and kill a couple thousand people? Let's blow up the whole fucking middle east - that'll prevent it.

Who knows when some damn illegal immigrant is going to hold up a 7-11 and shoot a clerk? Let's blow up Mexico - that'll prevent it.

Who knows when some damn Canadian is going to come into the country, go for a drive and hit a U.S. citizen and bruise their ankle? Let's blow up Canada - that'll show 'em!

But...what if there are Americans that go Johnny Turncoat over all this and say "Hey, maybe we shouldn't be blowing everybody the fuck up"? Let's get all THOSE Americans into one section of the country and blow it up! That'll stop all dissent!

What if your neighbor then plays his music too loudly and it offends you? What if his kid hits a baseball through your window? What if his frisbee lands on your yard and he runs over to get it - that's trespassing! He's invading your land! Better blow him up before he does it!

Well...how 'bout we just blow EVERYBODY up except for you and then you'll FINALLY have your 'security'?

Fucking idiot.

[Mushroom]

You dreamed up a fantasy concept but you are talking about Pre-Emptive strikes, which I did not suggest.

Here's a good idea - let's just fucking kill EVERYBODY on the planet, other than Americans. I mean, who knows when some country is going to attack us and kill a couple thousand people? Let's blow up the whole fucking middle east - that'll prevent it.

Who knows when some damn illegal immigrant is going to hold up a 7-11 and shoot a clerk? Let's blow up Mexico - that'll prevent it.

Who knows when some damn Canadian is going to come into the country, go for a drive and hit a U.S. citizen and bruise their ankle? Let's blow up Canada - that'll show 'em!

But...what if there are Americans that go Johnny Turncoat over all this and say "Hey, maybe we shouldn't be blowing everybody the fuck up"? Let's get all THOSE Americans into one section of the country and blow it up! That'll stop all dissent!

What if your neighbor then plays his music too loudly and it offends you? What if his kid hits a baseball through your window? What if his frisbee lands on your yard and he runs over to get it - that's trespassing! He's invading your land! Better blow him up before he does it!

Well...how 'bout we just blow EVERYBODY up except for you and then you'll FINALLY have your 'security'?

Fucking idiot.