Ian Anderson: Prog-Rock Douche Or Prolific Genius

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  • Kristy
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    • Aug 2004
    • 16339

    Ian Anderson: Prog-Rock Douche Or Prolific Genius

    Been searching for something to listen and since this was already in the CD player (I will admit this is not my CD) and since I'm way too lazy to get up off my ass and find something else thought I'd give this a spin.



    Okay, I've never been one for prog-rock for I always found the genre of music to be completely pretentious and boring belonging to the 70's-era listened only by stoners who hang black light posters up in their parent's basement while cleaning out the resin of their bong sitting listless on that ugly brown and orange furniture. Now some of you may be big fans of this but long-winded "jazz-fusion" inspired mutterings and inane lyrics such as "marlins jump out of the lake and stand there" make me cringe.

    And I've never been one to stand Jethro Tull. Nothing personal, just that every time you tune on the terrestrial radio there is the pentatonic scale of 'Aqualung' being played to death. I'm sure Ian Anderson as a high-caliber musician cannot be argued but for the past hour while listening to this it's kind of freaking me out. Reading all the reviews I could find on this record (even from hard core Tull fans) say 'Stormwatch' isn't one of their best efforts deeming it the "environmental issue concern Tull record" (so?) What gets me is that in the 30 plus years since this was recorded the topics seem to be more prevalent than ever: dependence on (foreign) oil, the greed and rape of landscapes, disregard to eco-systems, people becoming more huddled and condensed in high-density housing dwellings spoon-fed on propaganda and materialism while experiencing a neurotic dread cynicism of a dark time to come that may already be here:

    "The big jet rumbles over runway miles that scar the patchwork green where slick tycoons and rich buffoons have opened up the seam of golden nights and champagne flights. Ad-man overkill and in the haze consumer crazed we take the sugar pill."

    No reason for this post other than to reiterate this record is creeping me out a bit. Now I can see why Miley is so popular these days.

    Maybe her hair care products and all that shit she dresses her face with might be harmful to the environment...life goes on.
  • lesfunk
    Full Member Status

    • Jan 2004
    • 3583

    #2
    I quite like their Live album "Bursting Out".
    Not a big fan of their "dry" early seventies studio sound but hearing the songs performed live is enjoyable to me.
    Last edited by lesfunk; 03-24-2010, 06:50 PM.
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    • Blackflag
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      • Apr 2006
      • 3406

      #3
      I don't like "prog rock." I don't like "Miley Cyrus," either.

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      • Kristy
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        • Aug 2004
        • 16339

        #4
        Well, you're too cool for me.

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        • Blackflag
          Banned
          • Apr 2006
          • 3406

          #5
          Oh, don't be that way. You can hang around with me.

          But you'll have to pay for dinner.

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          • Anonymous
            Banned
            • May 2004
            • 12748

            #6
            There is no reason for you to be freaked out while listening to that album. It's not like Ian pulled a Nostradamus.

            These same issues were pretty well & alive in the 60s & 70s & probably before that.

            It's a form of arrogance to believe that only we are evolved enough to be environmentally conscious & that the generations of yesterday led easy, simpler & carefree lives.

            There are many, many people from decades before that have "predicted" stuff that happens today. It's only because they were paying attention, nothing more.

            But there is a point & a moral to it: it's been a long, long time since people are worried about the environment & the legacy they're leaving their children. It's also been a long, long time since absolutely nothing changed.

            So, Ian will eventually freak out someone in the future, just like he did you.

            I remember when I was freaked out by Auclair, back in the early 90s. To my young teenage mind, it seemed the dude had predicted Papa Bush's Iraq war way back in '76, in the pages of Simon du Fleuve.

            Later on, I learned what I wrote here today. I still treasure those books.

            Cheers! :bottle:

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            • Anonymous
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              • May 2004
              • 12748

              #7
              By the way, Wind Up is one of the best songs ever written.

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              Cheers! :bottle:
              Last edited by Anonymous; 03-24-2010, 09:04 PM.

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              • Mr Walker
                Crazy Ass Mofo
                • Jan 2004
                • 2536

                #8
                Finally, finally, finally going to see Tull this summer!

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                • tojoro
                  Head Fluffer
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 299

                  #9
                  Rush is about as far I go into prog. I've given Yes, ELP, Tull and the like a twirl or two and decided it wasn't my cup.
                  I am thankful for the ipod, as I can disconnect myself from the current 'music' scene and spare my ears the latest 'hits' from acts like Cyrus that will eventually end up on a NOW or Disney comp.
                  I must be turning into an old fart, because this bass-cannon bullshit makes no sense to me. Sounds like what you use to sell sneakers or soda.
                  None of this has the brown sound, therefore I have no use for it.
                  If I want to find out about music that is worth my while, I can stand in Newbury Comics for an hour and read the latest Classic Rock mag for free.
                  (wish they'd lower the price on that fucker!)
                  But yeah! I'd take 'Cygnus X-1' or 'La Villa Strangiato' anyday.
                  Miley can tween her way into oblivion, for all I care....

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                  • Kristy
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                    • Aug 2004
                    • 16339

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Imapus_Sylicker
                    There are many, many people from decades before that have "predicted" stuff that happens today. It's only because they were paying attention, nothing more.

                    So, Ian will eventually freak out someone in the future, just like he did you.
                    What I always detested about prog rock was the implication of a "concept album" which I thought became too over-used and ridiculous (see: Moody Blues) but maybe Anderson wrote tunes that went beyond the spatiotemporal issues of the day and saw into the future implications of mankind's fate when it comes to fucking around with the environment in which he lives. 'Stormwatch' is a bit creepy in that you can place it in all to perfect with all that is going on in the world today and we haven't paid attention to our shortcomings to act upon them. Yeah, that made no sense, either but good point there, Imapus.

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                    • Blackflag
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                      • Apr 2006
                      • 3406

                      #11
                      Rush is not "prog rock." Rush fucking rules.

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                      • BITEYOASS
                        ROTH ARMY ELITE
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 6530

                        #12
                        BTW when is Tony Iommi going to do another collaboration w/Jethro Tull?

                        YouTube - Tony Iommi in Jethro Tull

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                        • Anonymous
                          Banned
                          • May 2004
                          • 12748

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Kristy
                          What I always detested about prog rock was the implication of a "concept album" which I thought became too over-used and ridiculous (see: Moody Blues) but maybe Anderson wrote tunes that went beyond the spatiotemporal issues of the day and saw into the future implications of mankind's fate when it comes to fucking around with the environment in which he lives. 'Stormwatch' is a bit creepy in that you can place it in all to perfect with all that is going on in the world today and we haven't paid attention to our shortcomings to act upon them. Yeah, that made no sense, either but good point there, Imapus.
                          I hear what you're saying about concept albums. You basically come up with a ridiculous concept, record a basic-nothin'-really-new-except-tossing-in-some-bagpipes-here-and-there-though-it's-also-ben-done-before album & you get to label yourself as "prog-rock".

                          Actually, the best concept albums are NOT prog rock. King Diamond, for example. Some really good stories in his catalogue.

                          By the way, it's not that we didn't pay attention to our shortcomings... it's just that we've always been powerless to change anything.

                          And it goes on today. If there's been many people with limited time & resources who were able to come up with semi-viable alternatives to fossil fuels, isn't it quite logical to believe that there could very well exist extremely viable prototypes developed by those who DO have the resources to do it? Yet, it will only change when petroleum itself becomes an non-viable fuel & again, we are powerless to do anything about it.

                          Well, one could, theoretically, try to rise above the crowd, become a leader & try to steer the world in the right direction. But one would suffer an "accident" long before that happened.

                          So, here's the moral I forgot to post up there:

                          Enjoy yourself & stop worrying about things you cannot change.

                          Unless you manage to translate your concerns to an art form, that is. Then you can make a shitload of money, enjoy yourself & stop worrying about things you cannot change.

                          Cheers! :bottle:

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                          • Mr Badguy
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                            • Jan 2004
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Blackflag
                            Rush is not "prog rock." Rush fucking rules.
                            Rush IS prog rock, in fact they are one of the best examples.

                            Prog isn`t just about concept albums and 20 minute songs, in many ways those aren`t "progressive" as they`ve been done.

                            Prog rock, IMO, is taking your style of rock music where noone else has been, which Rush always try to do.

                            So you DO like prog rock!

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                            • Mr Badguy
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                              • Jan 2004
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                              #15
                              I don`t think it`s fair to lump Ian Anderson into the prog rock camp.

                              This is a man who writes SONGS, whereas prog is often instrument and wierd time signature based.

                              True, Tull did make some archetypal "progressive" albums in the early 70`s, but anyone who is a fan knows Tull wandered the spectrum of rock, from the folky late 70`s "Songs from the wood" to the heavy synthed "Under wraps" and Dire Straits styled "Crest of a knave".

                              The man is definetly an artist, watch him solo with an acoustic guitar doing "Life`s a long song", "Jack in the green" or, as Imapus Sylicker says, "Wind up" to fully appeciate his talent.

                              Tell me this isn`t a good song:

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