Who is gonna stick up for Joe LEGAL?

[GAR]

Joe Legal works in construction, makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.
$25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has $31,231.00.
Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $24,031.00. . Joe Legal makes too much money Joe pays $6,000.00 per year.. Joe Legal now has $18,031.00. Joe Legal pays rent $14,400.00 per year
Joe Legal pays $2,400.00 per year for insurance
Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches . Joe Legal's children go home after school
Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work. "and pays a higher tax rate if he earns above a certain amount"
Joe Legal $7,231.00 he has remainding to pay utilities, gasoline, etc

Poncho Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200.0
HE works construction, and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".
He pays 0 taxes Poncho Illegal now has $31,200.00.
HE has full medical and dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per HE has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps and welfare. .HE paid $14,000.00 rent but receives . $6,000.00 per year federal rent subsidy
HE receives a $280.00 per family member/ month federal CASHAID for four family members . . Jose Illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" (making Insurance cost more). He has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.
.HIS children get a government sponsored lunch. Jose Illegal's children have an after school ESL programcost $0
HE has $ 28,800.00. to pay utilities, gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month

Joe Legal's and Poncho Illegal's children both attend the same school,
Joe Legal and Poncho Illegal both enjoy the same, police and fire services, city & county roads and all the other things Joe Legal taxs is paying for.
Joe Legal paid for them Poncho Illegal did not pay.

Go ARIZONA. GO SB1070~!! 36 hours away to mass arrests and deportation, to return our financial stability and frrrreeeedom!

[IcarntRite55]

i like poncho

[Diamondjimi]

[Hardrock69]

How could anyone NOT agree the GarPedo is a homo troll?

He likes to sleep in his cardboard box 'mansion' under the 405 in his torn, dirty, vomit-stained NAMBLA t-shirt after his usual daily intake of a gallon of cheap wine.

[IcarntRite55]

poncho makes me wont too live again

[Nickdfresh]

Poncho has largely left the country because of the slowdown in construction jobs...

[thome]

I'm all alone
And the night is so long
La la-la-la la-la

So I started walking her way
She belonged to bad man, Jose

Hey WTF It's Jose, not Poncho... jeez. I thought you all were quoting that song..how do it Go!!

I wanted to do my part ..this is the Music Forum isn't it..??

It's NOT!!!! ????

Oh well Carry On.

La la-la-la la-la La la-la-la la-la La la-la-la la-la

[VanHalener]

I disagree, Nick. They have dispersed to other areas of the country, state, county or city.


Northern Virginia is so filled with illegals doing jobs for low, tax free wages that many a legal citizen has to scrape to find honest work and food for their table.

It's the corrupt motherfucking traitors to our great nation who bathe in their greed while in leadership offices throughout government that allow this shit to continue. America is a nation of freedom and laws secured by God and the blood of brave patriots so we may abide laws and live in peace among each other without tyranny like "Ok, some of you obey the law and some of you...awww fuck it, do what you want but don't get out of hand".



I don't give a shit where you come from, what color you are, or what you do to support yourself and your family, but I sure do care if I have to follow some law that an illegal immigrant does not have to. You should see the illegals' get away with theft in our courts. Makes me fucking sick.

Go Arizona! This is America, not the United States of Latin Countries motherfucker!

~rant cuntplete~

[VanHalener]

The other motherfucker i would like to point a trigger finger at is the asshole who contracts illegals to do his work so he can make more cash for himself. Fucking lazy traitor!

[motherchicken]

Some illegals actually work for legitimate companies using someone elses social security number but claimed numerous dependants to get the maximun on payday.Some get benefits from these jobs and don't abuse the welfare system.
But:
They are still taking jobs citizen or legal workers would do.They work for less and work as many hours as possible.They don't pay their fair share of taxes.
And :
Even though they get their paycheck here they send money back to wherever they're from , don't bother to even try to learn the language of the land and show no loyalty to this country whatsoever.
Illegal is illegal. Unfortunatly some people don't get it.

[motherchicken]

BTW All illegals don't come from south of here.There are plenty of illegal asians here too.They just keep a lower profile.

[sadaist]

Poncho has largely left the country because of the slowdown in construction jobs...

You're dreaming.

Where would he go? Back to Mexico? There aren't jobs there either (his reasoning for coming here in the first place). And in the US he gets health care & his children go to school for free. He can also receive other government benefits. So why would he leave?

[Nitro Express]

The illegal immigration will end after the politicians accomplish their goal of turning the US into a shitty socialist dictatorship and make it just like Latin America. Why sneak into a place that is the same shit hole you are trying to escape from?

[VanHalener]

Speaking of legal/illegal

Double standards are everywhere

In Virginia you get caught for speeds over 15mph over the posted speed limit, aka wreckless driving, and your ass will pay the court $3000 in fines if you are a resident and approximately $150 if you are a nonresident.

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE?

I would like to see pineapples shoved up the asses of the dickfaces that passed that horse shit.

[Diamondjimi]

BTW All illegals don't come from south of here.There are plenty of blah, blah blah....

Sockfucker sez wha?

[Nickdfresh]

You're dreaming.

Where would he go? Back to Mexico? There aren't jobs there either (his reasoning for coming here in the first place). And in the US he gets health care & his children go to school for free. He can also receive other government benefits. So why would he leave?

Sorry for putting actual facts in the debate, but....:

Illegal immigration down - because of economy or border control?
New data show the illegal immigrant population in the US plunged between 2008 and 2009. The report has sparked a debate about the reasons behind the decline and what it means for reform.

By Daniel B. Wood, Staff writer
posted February 11, 2010 at 6:56 pm EST

Los Angeles —
A report that America’s illegal immigrant population declined by almost 1 million in one year is fomenting hot debate about why it is happening, whether the statistics are correct, and how the numbers should affect US immigration reform.

The number of illegal immigrants living in the United States dropped to 10.6 million in 2009 from 11.6 million in 2008, the sharpest decrease in 30 years and a second straight year of decline, according to a Department of Homeland Security report released this week.

Some immigration-control groups say the decline is happening primarily because of a buildup of border patrol and surveillance – and that the buildup should thus continue to further reduce illegal immigration. Other groups claim it is a result of the poor economy. Some say it is both, and still others doubt the statistics altogether.

“I think it’s all about the economy. There is no evidence that we are ‘controlling’ illegal immigration better than in the past,” says Tomás Jiménez, assistant professor of sociology at Stanford University in Palo Alto, Calif. “In fact, the success rate of those attempting to cross illegally hasn’t changed at all. If anything is ‘controlling’ illegal immigration, it’s the economy, and we aren’t exactly in control of that.”

Groups that want to restrict immigration are concerned that immigrant-rights groups will use the new report to argue that it’s now OK to legalize illegal immigrants who remain in the US or to allow their numbers to shrink through attrition.

“At a time when enforcement was beginning to pay dividends, the Obama administration has curtailed many aspects of enforcement – particularly in the workplace,” says Ira Mehlman of the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR). The report is excellent evidence that illegal immigration is controllable, says Mr. Mehlman. “In addition, the administration and congressional leaders have promoted the idea that an amnesty might be forthcoming. At a time when many illegal aliens might be contemplating returning home, the talk of amnesty is giving them a reason to remain."

Immigrant support groups, on the other hand, worry the new data will help stymie immigration reform.

“Now that the decrease statistics are out, ICE [Homeland Security's immigration enforcement agency], Republicans, and Democrats can take credit for their tough stance on immigration," says Randy Ertll, executive director of El Centro de Accion Social in Pasadena, Calif. "Future congressional candidates will use this as an example that their leadership in controlling immigration is working. However, we know that the current immigration laws are outdated and need to be revised/reformed.”...

The Rest of the Story

[sadaist]

Sorry for putting actual facts in the debate, but....:


The number of illegal immigrants living in the United States dropped to 10.6 million in 2009 from 11.6 million in 2008,

That is a far cry from any type of major exodus of illegals.

[Nickdfresh]

These guys will!!
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[VanHalener]

Hey, a million illegals out per year works for me. A million back in legally is cool with me as long a they are not looking for a free ride on my tax dollar. Anyone related to Sammy Hagar should be deported and/or kept out of the country permanently.

America is a melting pot, so lets roll one and work it out.

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[Hardrock69]

For the 50th time, I don't mind it when people come to this country to live LEGALLY.

If they cross the border illegally, they are a fucking CRIMINAL because they BROKE THE FUCKING LAW. PERIOD! END OF FUCKING STORY.
At least I am not such a fucking Nazi-asshat to suggest they be shot on sight.

[thome]

Who wants to bet the exact number of dirty messcans that didn't get on Nick's "Actual Survey" is the same number that were blown asses off by the drug border wars murdered by thier own dead pieces of sh!t that would normally be walking back and forth between america the imigration holding cells deportation points and mexico.

Any Takers..?

[IcarntRite55]

poncho he live the american dream

poncho

[GAR]

A million back in legally is cool with me as long a they are not looking for a free ride on my tax dollar.

You're not in the full-time workforce yet, are you..

[thome]

Who knows where the largest<( bad descriptive word)...?...ahh///the busiest embarcation point for Illegal Alien Messicanz is located ..?

Within 1 mile of what Factory.

2 Points 1 Guess.

Don't bother trying to find out perhaps it will all become more real than just hearing the FUKKING CRAP shoveled down your throat by the media and thier RITES ACX<(insert swastica X)TIVIST AGENDA!!!