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    Last Hours of Humanity

    "Last Hours" is the first in a series of short films that explore the perils of climate change and the solutions to avert climate disaster. Each subsequent film will highlight fact-based challenges facing the human race, and offer solutions to ameliorate these crises. The initial short film series will culminate in a feature film to be presented prior to COP21, the 2015 UN Conference on Climate Change in Paris.

    An asset for the climate change movement, "Last Hours" will be disseminated globally to awaken modern culture worldwide about the various dangers associated with climate change.

    "Last Hours" describes a science-based climate scenario where a tipping point to runaway climate change is triggered by massive releases of frozen methane. Methane, a powerful greenhouse gas, has already started to percolate into the open seas and atmosphere from methane hydrate deposits beneath melting arctic ice, from the warming northern-hemisphere tundra, and from worldwide continental-shelf undersea methane clathrate pools.

    Burning fossil fuels release carbon that, principally through greenhouse effect, heat the atmosphere and the seas. This is happening most rapidly at the polar extremes, and this heating has already begun the process of releasing methane. If we do not begin to significantly curtail the use of carbon-based fossil fuels, this freed methane threatens to radically accelerate the speed of global warming, potentially producing a disaster beyond the ability of the human species to adapt.

    This first video is designed to awaken people to the fact that the earth has experienced five major extinctions in the deep geologic past -- times when more than half of all life on earth vanished -- and that we are now entering a sixth extinction. Industrial civilization with its production of greenhouse gases has the ability to trigger a mass extinction; in the extreme, it could threaten not just human civilization, but the very existence of human life on this planet.

    The world community and global citizens urgently need to chart a path forward that greatly reduces green house gas emissions. To take action and follow the pathway to solutions to the climate crisis, you can explore this website and you can also sign-up for future updates. Thank you.

    "Last Hours" is presented and narrated by Thom Hartmann and directed by Leila Conners. Executive Producers are George DiCaprio and Earl Katz. Last Hours is produced by Mathew Schmid of Tree Media Foundation, and was written by Thom Hartmann, Sam Sacks, and Leila Conners. Music is composed and performed by Francesco Lupica.


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    What needs to be done is a risk analysis.

    If for example there is just a 2% chance that there is a 6 degree increase in temperature then a bunch of money should be spent to try an minimize that.

    No one expects their house to burn down, it only happens to 1 in 10 000 Americans but almost everyone gets insurance, it would be insanely irresponsible not to.

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    Meh.
    Chances are the planet will remain habitable for at least the remainder of my life span.
    Honestly, if there was a co-ordinated, worldwide effort undertaken to try and save what we haven't yet altered of the environment, I'd be all for it. Short of that, a small percentage of people driving hybrid cars and recycling isn't gonna be worth the bother.
    Plus, we've already passed the threshold where more people are being born than dying, so even if the environment can be saved there soon won't be enough resouces to give everyone a decent standard of living.
    Not to be a buzzkill, but humanity fucked the planet and we've fucked ourselves. It's just that the chickens haven't come home to roost yet.
    It's a done deal.
    Scramby eggs and bacon.

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    http://news.investors.com/ibd-editor...pcc-report.htm

    Global Warming: Temperatures have flat-lined for 15 years, the Arctic and Antarctic are gaining record amounts of ice, most computer models have been wrong, yet the networks are buying into the alarmists' narrative.

    Earth might not have a fever but the media do, judging by their hyperventilating about the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's quite fraudulent report (Fifth Assessment Report or 5AR) released Sept. 27. One network — CBS— even turned a blind eye to the truth and claimed that temperatures "could have risen by more than 200 degrees."
    A NATION OF COWARDS - Jeffrey R. Snyder

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    http://news.investors.com/ibd-editor...pcc-report.htm

    Global Warming: Temperatures have flat-lined for 15 years, the Arctic and Antarctic are gaining record amounts of ice, most computer models have been wrong, yet the networks are buying into the alarmists' narrative.

    Earth might not have a fever but the media do, judging by their hyperventilating about the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's quite fraudulent report (Fifth Assessment Report or 5AR) released Sept. 27. One network — CBS— even turned a blind eye to the truth and claimed that temperatures "could have risen by more than 200 degrees."
    Complete horseshit. It's sophistic science done by some douchebag on the take from the oil and gas industry essentially cherrypicking statistical years to make it seem like we're not warming. He purposely chose the two lowest temperature years to to completely skew the data from the last 100 or 200 years. But hey, you'll drown first, jerksmar...

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    I'm sure that 20 years ago, Jerksmear completely agreed with the tobacco industry "scientists" who said that cigarettes were completely safe and absolutely non-addictive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post

    If for example there is just a 2% chance that there is a 6 degree increase in temperature then a bunch of money should be spent to try an minimize that.
    Hahahahahaha...



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    One would think that a guy who literally lives in a swamp would be more concerned about drowning.

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    Why, because algore and some other frauds told me to be afraid ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Why, because algore and some other frauds told me to be afraid ??
    no...because your alter ego said not to......
    I want my music waking up the dead.....dont tell me to turn it down

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Why, because algore and some other frauds told me to be afraid ??
    Right, you're too busy being Alexis Jonas' bitch! Only he'll tell you when to be afraid!

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    Simple question - what is the right amount of heat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    Simple question - what is the right amount of heat?
    You'll find out when you get to Hell

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    Religion for the truly ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    You'll find out when you get to Hell
    Nice dodge, liar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post



    Religion for the truly ignorant.
    Well you don't have to tell us your 'religion' is ignorance. But Al Gore never claimed to have invented anything...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post





    It's like you have a super radar to find the most ludicrous morons on the planet and then believe whatever shit they spout.



    That guy is a fucking idiot, a complete joke in his own country.

    What are his scientific qualifications? Fuck all - he has a degree in Classics. Ask him a question about Romans not climate change.
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    Fuck the scientists. I listen to the elders. They are the holders of knowledge of the land.

    http://www.skepticalscience.com/Inui...te-Change.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Well you don't have to tell us your 'religion' is ignorance. But Al Gore never claimed to have invented anything...
    Um....yes. Yes I do have to point out that your global warming religion is big as the hole in the ozone layer. Which coincidentally, is a big as the whole in your pathetic affluent Buffalo suburb life.

    Now smartass, answer the simple question: What is the right amount of heat??

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    Whatever the global warming corporate consensus says, of course...

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    You're the one sheepishly taking your information from lobby groups paid for by big oil, I go with the scientific consensus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post




    One year is not enough to show a trend. How many glaciers where you're from, Elbow? I'm from the Cdn Rockies. Athabasca glacier is NOTHING like it was when I was young. Our forests are being decimated by pine beetles because it is no longer cold enough to kill them. I was shocked when I went home to spread my brother's ashes...no snow on the peaks. Not normal...well, old normal anyway.

    I don't need scientists to tell me, I'm aware of the nature around me and I listen to the Elders. They know the land better than any...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    Um....yes. Yes I do have to point out that your global warming religion is big as the hole in the ozone layer. Which coincidentally, is a big as the whole in your pathetic affluent Buffalo suburb life.

    Now smartass, answer the simple question: What is the right amount of heat??
    That's really simple - the right amount is the minimum amount of change. Rapid change means that animals but especially humans don't have time to adjust.

    The huge irony is that this is a particularly a big problem for people that live that live only 15 feet above sea level or in a swamp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    You're the one sheepishly taking your information from lobby groups paid for by big oil, I go with the scientific consensus.
    Lobby groups of big oil ??

    You're drunk...

    And there is no legitimate "scientific consensus" regarding climate change...

    It's a global UN regime designed to separate people from their money...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    That's really simple - the right amount is the minimum amount of change.
    Exactly...

    Pay the bankers and expect a minimum amount of change...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    That's really simple - the right amount is the minimum amount of change. Rapid change means that animals but especially humans don't have time to adjust.

    The huge irony is that this is a particularly a big problem for people that live that live only 15 feet above sea level or in a swamp.

    For those keeping score - that is another: I don't know.


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    The earths Climate has been changing for billions of years, things are going to change with or without the human race! man made climate change is agenda driven as far as I'm concerned

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    [QUOTE=redozzman; man made climate change is driven QUOTE]

    By people in fuck off cars guzzling fuel ....... Couldn't resist .
    fuck your fucking framing

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    Quote Originally Posted by redozzman View Post
    The earths Climate has been changing for billions of years, things are going to change with or without the human race! man made climate change is agenda driven as far as I'm concerned

    How can I change the climate if Al Gore can't?


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    Carbon Credits...git yer Carbon Credits heyeah...Git yer fresh Carbon Credits...Guaranteed hot...guaranteed good...git yer Carbon Credits!


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    Haha...

    But not funny...

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    Quote Originally Posted by redozzman View Post
    The earths Climate has been changing for billions of years, things are going to change with or without the human race! man made climate change is agenda driven as far as I'm concerned
    Actually, it's the climate change denial that is agenda driven.

    And I'll give you 666 guesses who is driving the agenda.......


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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    But not funny...
    Right wing attempts at satire never are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Lobby groups of big oil ??

    You're drunk...

    http://www.theguardian.com/environme...ktanks-network


    Secret funding helped build vast network of climate denial thinktanks

    Anonymous billionaires donated $120m to more than 100 anti-climate groups working to discredit climate change science



    • How Donors Trust distributed millions to anti-climate groups

    Suzanne Goldenberg, US environment correspondent

    The Guardian, Thursday 14 February 2013 13.39 GMT


    Conservative billionaires used a secretive funding route to channel nearly $120m (£77m) to more than 100 groups casting doubt about the science behind climate change, the Guardian has learned.

    The funds, doled out between 2002 and 2010, helped build a vast network of thinktanks and activist groups working to a single purpose: to redefine climate change from neutral scientific fact to a highly polarising "wedge issue" for hardcore conservatives.

    The millions were routed through two trusts, Donors Trust and the Donors Capital Fund, operating out of a generic town house in the northern Virginia suburbs of Washington DC. Donors Capital caters to those making donations of $1m or more.

    Whitney Ball, chief executive of the Donors Trust told the Guardian that her organisation assured wealthy donors that their funds would never by diverted to liberal causes.

    Koch Industries Executive Vice President David H. Koch : Funding climate chang deniers
    The funding stream far outstripped the support from more visible opponents of climate action such as the oil industry or the conservative billionaire Koch brothers. Photograph: Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images
    "We exist to help donors promote liberty which we understand to be limited government, personal responsibility, and free enterprise," she said in an interview.

    By definition that means none of the money is going to end up with groups like Greenpeace, she said. "It won't be going to liberals."

    Ball won't divulge names, but she said the stable of donors represents a wide range of opinion on the American right. Increasingly over the years, those conservative donors have been pushing funds towards organisations working to discredit climate science or block climate action.

    Donors exhibit sharp differences of opinion on many issues, Ball said. They run the spectrum of conservative opinion, from social conservatives to libertarians. But in opposing mandatory cuts to greenhouse gas emissions, they found common ground.

    "Are there both sides of an environmental issue? Probably not," she went on. "Here is the thing. If you look at libertarians, you tend to have a lot of differences on things like defence, immigration, drugs, the war, things like that compared to conservatives. When it comes to issues like the environment, if there are differences, they are not nearly as pronounced."

    By 2010, the dark money amounted to $118m distributed to 102 thinktanks or action groups which have a record of denying the existence of a human factor in climate change, or opposing environmental regulations.

    The money flowed to Washington thinktanks embedded in Republican party politics, obscure policy forums in Alaska and Tennessee, contrarian scientists at Harvard and lesser institutions, even to buy up DVDs of a film attacking Al Gore.

    The ready stream of cash set off a conservative backlash against Barack Obama's environmental agenda that wrecked any chance of Congress taking action on climate change.



    Those same groups are now mobilising against Obama's efforts to act on climate change in his second term. A top recipient of the secret funds on Wednesday put out a point-by-point critique of the climate content in the president's state of the union address.

    And it was all done with a guarantee of complete anonymity for the donors who wished to remain hidden.

    "The funding of the denial machine is becoming increasingly invisible to public scrutiny. It's also growing. Budgets for all these different groups are growing," said Kert Davies, research director of Greenpeace, which compiled the data on funding of the anti-climate groups using tax records.

    "These groups are increasingly getting money from sources that are anonymous or untraceable. There is no transparency, no accountability for the money. There is no way to tell who is funding them," Davies said.

    The trusts were established for the express purpose of managing donations to a host of conservative causes.

    Such vehicles, called donor-advised funds, are not uncommon in America. They offer a number of advantages to wealthy donors. They are convenient, cheaper to run than a private foundation, offer tax breaks and are lawful.

    That opposition hardened over the years, especially from the mid-2000s where the Greenpeace record shows a sharp spike in funds to the anti-climate cause.

    In effect, the Donors Trust was bankrolling a movement, said Robert Brulle, a Drexel University sociologist who has extensively researched the networks of ultra-conservative donors.

    "This is what I call the counter-movement, a large-scale effort that is an organised effort and that is part and parcel of the conservative movement in the United States " Brulle said. "We don't know where a lot of the money is coming from, but we do know that Donors Trust is just one example of the dark money flowing into this effort."

    In his view, Brulle said: "Donors Trust is just the tip of a very big iceberg."

    The rise of that movement is evident in the funding stream. In 2002, the two trusts raised less than $900,000 for the anti-climate cause. That was a fraction of what Exxon Mobil or the conservative oil billionaire Koch brothers donated to climate sceptic groups that year.

    By 2010, the two Donor Trusts between them were channelling just under $30m to a host of conservative organisations opposing climate action or science. That accounted to 46% of all their grants to conservative causes, according to the Greenpeace analysis.

    The funding stream far outstripped the support from more visible opponents of climate action such as the oil industry or the conservative billionaire Koch brothers, the records show. When it came to blocking action on the climate crisis, the obscure charity in the suburbs was outspending the Koch brothers by a factor of six to one.

    "There is plenty of money coming from elsewhere," said John Mashey, a retired computer executive who has researched funding for climate contrarians. "Focusing on the Kochs gets things confused. You can not ignore the Kochs. They have their fingers in too many things, but they are not the only ones."

    It is also possible the Kochs continued to fund their favourite projects using the anonymity offered by Donor Trust.

    But the records suggest many other wealthy conservatives opened up their wallets to the anti-climate cause – an impression Ball wishes to stick.

    She argued the media had overblown the Kochs support for conservative causes like climate contrarianism over the years. "It's so funny that on the right we think George Soros funds everything, and on the left you guys think it is the evil Koch brothers who are behind everything. It's just not true. If the Koch brothers didn't exist we would still have a very healthy organisation," Ball said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    Actually, it's the climate change denial that is agenda driven.
    Mr Agenda says what ??

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    Mr Agenda says what ??
    Who's Mr. Agenda?

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