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    Trump Is Fucked

    Trump captured on tape acknowledging he kept a classified document on Iran -CNN
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    Wed, May 31, 2023 at 4:30 PM EDT

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Federal prosecutors have a 2021 audio recording of former President Donald Trump acknowledging he kept a classified Pentagon document about a possible attack on Iran after leaving the White House, CNN reported on Wednesday.

    CNN did not listen to the recording but cited unidentified multiple sources describing it. Reuters was not able to confirm the report.

    The recording shows Trump, who is seeking the 2024 Republican presidential nomination, understood he retained classified material after he left the White House in 2021, according to the cable television network.

    Trump’s remarks indicated he would like to share the information but was aware of the limitations on his ability to declassify documents after leaving office, two sources told CNN.

    A Trump representative did not immediately return a request for comment. Peter Carr, the spokesman for Special Counsel Jack Smith's office at the Justice Department, also did not immediately comment.

    Smith is investigating Trump's handling of classified documents, as well as efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election Trump lost to Democrat Joe Biden.

    (Reporting by Doina Chiacu and Kanishka Singh; editing by Tim Ahmann)

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    Cheeto Indicted. AGAIN.

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    Former President Donald Trump has been indicted for a second time, this time on federal charges in relation to his handling of classified information while out of office, sources familiar confirm to ABC News.

    He is set to be arraigned in federal court in Miami on Tuesday at 3 p.m. ET, sources said.

    “We’re learning from our sources that there appears to be at least seven counts here. This ranges from everything from the willful retention of national defense information to conspiracy to a scheme to conceal to false statements and representations," ABC News' Katherine Faulders reported during a special report on the network.

    In a statement on social media, Trump wrote that he had been told of the indictment and insisted the case was a "hoax." He has repeatedly denied wrongdoing.

    He wrote that he is "INNOCENT."

    The unprecedented federal indictment of a former president -- who already faces a criminal case in New York City that he denies and who is the current front-runner for the Republican Party's nomination for the White House in 2024 -- further underlines what are potentially the most consequential prosecutions in U.S. history, with implications both global and domestic.

    Experts say that a current U.S. government criminally prosecuting its former leader and current leading opposition party candidate upends long-held norms and could test the nation's democratic system in a manner that stretches far beyond the merits of the case itself.

    The federal probe has been led by special counsel Jack Smith, who was tapped by Attorney General Merrick Garland in November to oversee the Department of Justice's investigation into Trump's handling of classified documents after leaving office.

    Smith is also overseeing the investigation into Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election results.

    Central to Smith's efforts in the classified documents probe is determining whether lawyers who represented the former president falsely certified in response to a grand jury subpoena that Trump had returned all classified records to the government, or whether Trump himself sought to conceal records that he might have unlawfully retained.

    As ABC News previously reported, prosecutors in the special counsel's office have presented compelling preliminary evidence that Trump knowingly and deliberately misled his own attorneys about his retention of classified material after leaving office in early 2021, according to sources who described the contents of a sealed filing from a top federal judge.

    In early 2022, sources told ABC News, National Archives officials asked the Justice Department to investigate Trump's handling of White House records after the National Archives in January retrieved 15 boxes of records from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida that had been improperly taken in violation of the Presidential Records Act.

    The DOJ probe hit a critical point on Aug. 8, 2022, when Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida was searched by FBI agents.

    Federal investigators seized more than 100 documents with classified markings during the search, according to an unsealed detailed inventory list. From Trump‘s office alone, there were 43 empty folders seized with classified banners.

    The property inventory list also showed that agents gathered more than 11,000 documents or photographs without classification markings, all of which were described as property of the U.S. government.

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    Could be very bad news for the Democrats though. Maybe the only person that Biden can be sure of beating at this point is Trump...

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    Seven federal charges.

    One of them is under the Espionage Act.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Could be very bad news for the Democrats though. Maybe the only person that Biden can be sure of beating at this point is Trump...
    Yeah well if Ron "Getting me ass fucked by Disney transgender characters" Denancy is indicative of GOP field, that old fuck is golden....

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    Or Jabba the Christie.

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    Guess you guys haven't checked the polls lately. All this stuff is doing, is making Trump even more popular.
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    It's ironic that the more the establishment/left piles on Trump... it drives his popularity up.

    Too soon to say with confidence but the odds of seeing a Biden v Trump rematch in November 2024 are falling measurably. My instincts tell me we may see neither win the nomination.
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    Regarding the Manhattan indictment, 41 percent of independents and 44 percent overall view the alleged crime as serious and also say it would be disqualifying.

    Those numbers go up to 49 percent and 50 percent, respectively, in the classified documents case.

    That’s nearly half of voters who, to the extent the case is proved in their minds, say Trump would be disqualified.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ility-polling/

    And it ain't gonna get better. Enabling, sheep dipshits notwithstanding...

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    He ain't getting outta this one, boys...

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    Has anyone found out what the Saudis paid Kushner $2 billion dollars for?

    What did they get for that? Access to his brilliance?

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    Well Trump's attack on Iran war plans "disappeared". Someone is going to jail, maybe not drumpf, but one of his lawyers. Maybe that's what Jared sold?...

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    Criminal defendant Trump will be arrested on Tuesday no thanks to Obama and he will have his passport confiscated. Now would be a good time for Melania & Barron to head off to Slovenia - the proven sexual abuser won't be able to follow them.

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    Naw, she's got it good. Renegotiated the prenup over the porn star hush money thing....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Has anyone found out what the Saudis paid Kushner $2 billion dollars for?

    What did they get for that? Access to his brilliance?
    It may have something to do with little Jared taking sides in the previous Saudi family power struggle, and favoring Mohammed Bonesawman over the crown prince who everybody THOUGHT was going to get the throne, at the time..


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    Trump lawyers quit documents case, and a former Trump aide is indicted



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    WASHINGTON (Reuters) -Two lawyers defending Donald Trump on federal charges of illegally retaining classified documents quit the case on Friday and a former aide was charged as well in surprise developments one day after the former U.S. president was indicted.

    Trump said on his Truth Social platform that his former military valet, Walt Nauta, had been charged in the case. Nauta went to work at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort after working in the Trump White House. It was unclear what his charges were.

    Nauta's lawyer, Stanley Woodward, declined to comment. A spokesperson for Special Counsel Jack Smith, who is leading the prosecution, could not be reached immediately.

    Nauta "served proudly with me in the White House, retired as Senior Chief, and then transitioned into private life as a personal aide," Trump wrote on Truth Social.

    In an earlier post, Trump said he would be represented in the case by white collar defense lawyer Todd Blanche, who is representing him in a separate criminal case in Manhattan.

    Trump made that announcement after his lawyers John Rowley and Jim Trusty quit the case for reasons that were not immediately clear.

    "This morning we tendered our resignations as counsel to President Trump," the two lawyers said in a statement. "It has been an honor to have spent the last year defending him, and we know he will be vindicated."

    Trump faces seven criminal counts related to his treatment of sensitive government materials he took with him when he left the White House in January 2021, according to a source familiar with the matter.

    He is due to appear in the Florida court on Tuesday, a day before his 77th birthday.

    The indictment of a former U.S. president on federal charges is unprecedented in American history and emerges at a time when Trump is the front-runner for the Republican presidential nomination next year.

    The case does not prevent Trump from campaigning or taking office if he were to win the November 2024 presidential election. Legal experts say there would be no basis to block his swearing-in even if he were convicted and sent to prison.

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    What a horrible waste of time witch hunt against the greatest President ever. It's amazing how fucked the Libtards have made this Country. And the dumb just fall in line with it all. The epitome of ignorant sheep.

    Like he always does, Trump will come out on top.

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    Cheeto charged with 37 counts in classified documents case

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    Trump indictment in classified records case is unsealed

    A 37-count criminal indictment against Donald Trump was unsealed Friday, revealing allegations that thr former president willfully retained classified government records and conspired to prevent their return to U.S. officials.

    The charging document, which alleges Trump kept records containing national defense information after leaving the White House, was made public a day after the ex-president was indicted by a grand jury in U.S. District Court in Miami.

    Among other allegations, the indictment says that Trump showed classified documents to other people in the summer of 2021, after leaving office.


    One of those documents was a “plan of attack” that he told a publisher and writer at his Bedminster, New Jersey, golf club was prepared by the Pentagon.

    “As president I could have declassified it,” Trump told them, according to an audio recording of that July 2021 comment which is quoted in the indictment.

    “Now I can’t, you know, but this is still a secret,” he added.

    A month or so later at Bedminster, Trump showed a representative of a political action committed “a classified map related to a military operation” and told the other man “he should not be showing it to the representative and that the representative should not get to close,” the indictment alleges.

    Also charged in the indictment was Trump’s valet, Walter Nauta, who faces several of the same charges as his boss, with whom he allegedly conspired to keep classified records and hide them from a federal grand jury.

    The indictment said that Trump was personally involved in packing up boxes of documents as he prepared to vacate the White House to his home at his Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach, Florida.

    The FBI raid of Mar-a-Lago last August discovered hundreds of classified documents, which he had failed to turn over to U.S. officials despite a year or so of efforts to recover them.

    The current indictment says, “On December 7, 2021, Nauta found several of Trump’s boxes fallen and their contents spilled onto the floor of the Storage Room [at Mar-a-Lago] including a document marked “SECRET//REL TO USA, FVEY,” which denoted that the information in the document was releasable only to the Five Eyes intelligence alliance consisting of Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States.”

    Department of Justice special counsel Jack Smith, in a televised statement Friday afternoon, said, “Our laws that protect national defense information are critical to the safety and security of the United States and they must be enforced.”

    “Violations of those laws put our country at risk,” said Smith, who led the investigation of Trump in the classified documents case. Smith is continuing to oversee a separate criminal investigation of Trump for his efforts to overturn his loss to President Joe Biden in the 2020 election.

    Trump, who is seeking the 2024 Republican presidential nomination, and Nauta are due to be arraigned in Miami on Tuesday, the day before Trump’s 77th birthday.

    He and Nauta each face a maximum possible sentence of 20 years in prison if convicted of the most serious charges, which are conspiracy to obstruct justice and counts related to withholding and concealing the government records.

    Thirty-one of the counts accuse Trump of willful retention of national defense information. He is also charged with conspiracy to obstruct justice; withholding a document or record; corruptly concealing a document or record; concealing a document in a federal investigation; scheme to conceal; and false statements and representations.

    Trump was put under criminal investigation in the spring of 2022, after the FBI was notified that classified documents were found in the 15 boxes of government records he gave to the National Records and Archives Administration after months of effort by NARA to recover documents the agency believed were missing.

    By law, presidents must give NARA all government records when they leave office.

    The indictment notes, “As he departed the White House, TRUMP caused scores of boxes, many of which contained classified documents, to be transported to The Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach, Florida, where he maintained his residence.”

    “TRUMP was not authorized to possess or retain those classified documents,” the indictment says.


    Trump later suggested to any attorney that he lie to the FBI and a grand jury by saying that he did not have the documents they were seeking, and directed Nauto to move boxes of documents to conceal them from Trump’s own lawyer, the FBI and the grand jury, the indictment alleges.

    Trump also is accused in the indictment of suggesting to his lawyer that the attorney hide or destroy documents, that he gave the FBI and the grand jury only some of the documents he had kept while claiming he was fully cooperating.

    And Trump caused a certification to be submitted to the FBI and grand jury, falsely representing that all documents had been produced when he knew that was not true, according to the indictment.

    The indictment estimates that Trump’s trial would take between 21 and 60 days.

    The DOJ’s indictment includes photos of classified documents found at former President Donald Trump’s Mar-A-Lago residence.


    Earlier Friday, two of Trump’s lawyers resigned from representing him in the classified documents case, and in the criminal investigation involving the 2020 election.

    Trump was indicted by a New York state grand jury in late March on charges of falsifying business records related to a $130,000 hush money payment his then-lawyer Michael Cohen gave porn star Stormy Daniels shortly before the 2016 election.

    Trump has pleaded not guilty in that case, which is set to go to trial next March in Manhattan Supreme Court.

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    Some people are so goddamned delusional they should never be let out of their padded cells.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    What a horrible waste of time witch hunt against the greatest President ever. It's amazing how fucked the Libtards have made this Country. And the dumb just fall in line with it all. The epitome of ignorant sheep.

    Like he always does, Trump will come out on top.
    The phrase witch hunt is based on the fact that witches don't factually exist.

    It's not a witch hunt if the person did the thing whether you are sad about it or not.

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    In this crazy world we're living in today, I can't say I couldn't imagine Trump getting convicted, sentenced, elected and then self-pardoned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    What a horrible waste of time witch hunt against the greatest President ever. It's amazing how fucked the Libtards have made this Country. And the dumb just fall in line with it all. The epitome of ignorant sheep.

    Like he always does, Trump will come out on top.
    Keep swinging off those sloppy old man balls, sheep...

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    If Trump molested a child on 5th Ave, Von and Zah are still voting for him!

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    Fox abandons Trump...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Guess you guys haven't checked the polls lately. All this stuff is doing, is making Trump even more popular.
    Nobody cares. Rinse wash repeat. It’s been years of we got him now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    It's ironic that the more the establishment/left piles on Trump... it drives his popularity up.

    Too soon to say with confidence but the odds of seeing a Biden v Trump rematch in November 2024 are falling measurably. My instincts tell me we may see neither win the nomination.
    It’s the fall of western civilization. If you could watch what’s going on now 40 years ago, you would think the script writer needs to kick their drug habit and go see a psychiatrist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    In this crazy world we're living in today, I can't say I couldn't imagine Trump getting convicted, sentenced, elected and then self-pardoned.
    This whole circus has many more acts to follow... anything is possible.

    The current DOJ has forced them selves into a legal corner over this escalating battle against Trump... at some point "the rule of equal application of the law" will become unavoidable and the Biden family corruption investigations will be acted on. Things will get worse on both sides...

    This isn't a good time for our country... I'm personally disgusted with both sides of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    It’s the fall of western civilization. If you could watch what’s going on now 40 years ago, you would think the script writer needs to kick their drug habit and go see a psychiatrist.
    I disagree... I'm old enough to remember the state of things from Nixon's mess. In the end the basic tenants of the constitution and law prevailed. Both sides took to the high roads and the crooks stepped out of the leadership ranks.

    I'm not seeing that prospect emerging from the current mess...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    In this crazy world we're living in today, I can't say I couldn't imagine Trump getting convicted, sentenced, elected and then self-pardoned.
    Trump isn't getting more popular although maybe his base is digging in, he's still sitting at 40%.

    Looking at the polls the main thing that seems to have changed in the last 6 months is that Biden has become much less popular he's now sitting at 40% as well.

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    I'd imagine criminal defendant Trump's little navy boy is quite literally shitting himself at the moment. Curled up in the fetal position on the bathroom floor shitting and vomiting. He'll probably do a deal with the feds, plead guilty to his crimes, and spill the beans on his boss. He might only get a year or two in a cell with Bubba, but Tiny-Hands Don might die in prison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    I'd imagine criminal defendant Trump's little navy boy is quite literally shitting himself at the moment. Curled up in the fetal position on the bathroom floor shitting and vomiting. He'll probably do a deal with the feds, plead guilty to his crimes, and spill the beans on his boss. He might only get a year or two in a cell with Bubba, but Tiny-Hands Don might die in prison.
    About 41% but guessing the polls are skewed towards old people in favor of trump like some of those in this thread...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    I disagree... I'm old enough to remember the state of things from Nixon's mess. In the end the basic tenants of the constitution and law prevailed. Both sides took to the high roads and the crooks stepped out of the leadership ranks.

    I'm not seeing that prospect emerging from the current mess...
    Watergate was nothing compared to the corruption going on now. The Durham Report spells some of it out.

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    It’s just another indictment to try and hurt Trump’s chances at reelection and that’s all it is. It’s not even about Trump. It’s about intimidating outsiders from running for office and trying to change things. Look at what they did to Bernie Sanders. He could pull huge crowds. There was Bernie fever. He was A rock star. The party ditched him.

    Trump got past the party and got into office but the establishment has been on his ass the whole time. No way in hell did Joe Biden get 81 million votes. He couldn’t pull the crowds Bernie and Trump could. In case you haven’t noticed there is no accountability in government anymore. If you are connected you don’t go to jail. It’s a racket. Replace Donald Trump with someone else who the establishment views as a threat and the same shit would happen.

    People are just too distracted or stupid to see it. It’s insiders vs outsiders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    This whole circus has many more acts to follow... anything is possible.

    The current DOJ has forced them selves into a legal corner over this escalating battle against Trump... at some point "the rule of equal application of the law" will become unavoidable and the Biden family corruption investigations will be acted on. Things will get worse on both sides...

    This isn't a good time for our country... I'm personally disgusted with both sides of this.
    Who’s going to enforce the law? The corrupt congress or the corrupt Just Us Department?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Watergate was nothing compared to the corruption going on now. The Durham Report spells some of it out.
    Em no, bad law enforcement and some poor choices but that's not really corruption. No one really profited...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    It’s just another indictment to try and hurt Trump’s chances at reelection and that’s all it is. It’s not even about Trump. It’s about intimidating outsiders from running for office and trying to change things. Look at what they did to Bernie Sanders. He could pull huge crowds. There was Bernie fever. He was A rock star. The party ditched him.

    Trump got past the party and got into office but the establishment has been on his ass the whole time. No way in hell did Joe Biden get 81 million votes. He couldn’t pull the crowds Bernie and Trump could. In case you haven’t noticed there is no accountability in government anymore. If you are connected you don’t go to jail. It’s a racket. Replace Donald Trump with someone else who the establishment views as a threat and the same shit would happen.

    People are just too distracted or stupid to see it. It’s insiders vs outsiders.
    Just fucking nonsense. You're one of those Trump on 5th Ave. shooting people and will still make excuses for him guys. The vote thing has been done over in over 60 court cases and not one fucking case showed any significant fraud. It was Trump telling the Govenor of Georgia to "find votes". It's funny when the most blatantly corrupt liars call everyone corrupt and liars...

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    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...aways-00097060

    It's funny how selective people are. Nitrous believes nothing but the Durham report linked above. You can't pick and choose which official reports are the truth or are "corrupt" frauds lest you wanna look like a clown...

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    "Photos featured in the indictment allegedly show that some of the boxes with confidential documents
    were moved to a bathroom and shower at the resort's Lake Room."



    Full story at:
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ry?id=99968740

    How some of you excuse-makers can be ok with this is beyond me. When Biden/Pence/Clinton
    found boxes of documnents they immediately contacted DOJ and turned them over. This moron
    has them stacked in a bathroom. I take better care of my boxes of comics than that.
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    Also it's not a private house, it's a resort.

    A chinese spy who joins a country club and then goes to the bathroom wouldn't be the greatest movie thriller competition to James Bond.

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