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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    Totally agree, Von.

    And what was that shit remark W aimed at CVH fans a couple of weeks ago, “only twice divorced 54 year old men who only want to hear Panama” supposed to accomplish? I wonder if he’s aware that his shit attitude is keeping me from shopping his inherited guitar line. Hopefully many others, too.
    I've never been divorced. Widowed, not divorced. And I'm 60, not 54. To be honest, I don't ever want to hear the fat Wolf boy play Panama, or any other CVH song. You are not alone with the guitar line either. I wouldn't buy one of his products if it were the only one left on earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Doesn't matter if it has to be unanimous. Dave and Al are on the same page.

    I agree. I am pretty sure Al has more control than we know. But he may not have access to 5150. Not sure what kind of legalities would be involved for him to get the material in that vault.
    Well if thats the case open the fuckin vaults Al!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
    Well if thats the case open the fuckin vaults Al!
    If they won’t spend the money on an attorney to get ADKOT back online, I doubt they will spend the money it would take to get the fat Wolf boy to relinquish what’s in 5150.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Personally, I think this has more to do with leverage, than Dave hating ADKOT. I think he's tired of this entitled fat fuckwad holding up anything to do with the CVH brand. Whether it be vault material. Whether it be old live shows, audio or video. Whether it be anything to do with CVH, period. I think Dave is pissed off that this kid brushes CVH under the rug. I think Dave is pissed off that this kid has built his brand off CVH, yet wants to act like CVH didn't exist. I think Dave feels exactly the same as me. Fuck this entitled fat fuck for hating CVH and CVH fans. Dave doesn't want this motherfucker to gain one red cent off his hard work. Hard work that the Wolf boy blatantly does not appreciate.

    It's a shame that so many Van Hagar and CVH fans are willing to give tubby a free pass because of his last name.
    I suppose it all tracks back to how wonderful (or incredible or whatever superlative word one would use to describe it) Van Halen was as a rock band and Eddie was as a rock guitarist.

    Van Halen's first 6 albums...I mean, that stuff keeps on resonating. For me, when I listen to that stuff now it elicits feelings just as strong as they were back in the early 1980s when I was barely a teenager.

    Really, those 6 albums with Roth...I mean, those albums ARE Van Halen for me. I don't really give much of a shit what 'Van Halen' did after Roth left in 1985. Even the 2 1996 tracks and the ADKOT album...had that stuff never been released it wouldn't have diminished what the band meant to me one iota.

    Eddie Van Halen's kid wasn't even born until...what, a half-decade after his father's best/definitive work was already in the rearview mirror.

    I dunno. People still love what Eddie did. I get that. Eddie's gone, so they still want a glimmer. I get that, too. Seeing Eddie's kid fingertap does zero for me in terms of feeling that old CVH magic when he does it. That old CVH magic vanished nearly 40 years ago. It's gone forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Seeing Eddie's kid fingertap does zero for me in terms of feeling that old CVH magic when he does it. That old CVH magic vanished nearly 40 years ago. It's gone forever.
    Watching him do an insipid finger tap run really brings to mind the Frank Sinatra Jr. effect that I once thought Wolf had the power to avoid. Sure, he loves to lambast those who he claims want to hear him only play the likes of Panama (are there really people out there yearning for this?) but even as he’s out “blazing his own trail” as his Dad would want, I feel he’s just yoking together hat tips to the old man, one after the other; from the stylistic mimicking, to using his original Frankenstrat, to using the Fair Warning mini-moog and whatever else 5150 has to offer, to calling his sophomore effort II. Sure he may not be playing Panama, but he’s out and about in the old man’s clothes, just as Frank Jr. was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    Watching him do an insipid finger tap run really brings to mind the Frank Sinatra Jr. effect that I once thought Wolf had the power to avoid. Sure, he loves to lambast those who he claims want to hear him only play the likes of Panama (are there really people out there yearning for this?) but even as he’s out “blazing his own trail” as his Dad would want, I feel he’s just yoking together hat tips to the old man, one after the other; from the stylistic mimicking, to using his original Frankenstrat, to using the Fair Warning mini-moog and whatever else 5150 has to offer, to calling his sophomore effort II. Sure he may not be playing Panama, but he’s out and about in the old man’s clothes, just as Frank Jr. was.
    There's a clip of Frank Jr. saying he only sings "one Sinatra number" in his show.

    And there wasn't one audience member thinking, "You know we're just here because your old man is Ol' Blue Eyes, right?"
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    Sorry...just re-read that. I MEAN... There wasn't one audience member NOT thinking, "You know we're just here because your old man is Ol' Blue Eyes, right?"

    Frank Jr. was a talented guy...but everyone was there because of his old man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    Watching him do an insipid finger tap run really brings to mind the Frank Sinatra Jr. effect that I once thought Wolf had the power to avoid. Sure, he loves to lambast those who he claims want to hear him only play the likes of Panama (are there really people out there yearning for this?) but even as he’s out “blazing his own trail” as his Dad would want, I feel he’s just yoking together hat tips to the old man, one after the other; from the stylistic mimicking, to using his original Frankenstrat, to using the Fair Warning mini-moog and whatever else 5150 has to offer, to calling his sophomore effort II. Sure he may not be playing Panama, but he’s out and about in the old man’s clothes, just as Frank Jr. was.
    Even just strictly in terms of the gear...it's like, circa 1984 there was no shortage of various hard rock bands on MTV with either guitarists two-handed tapping a Charvel or a spandex-clad, blonde lead singer leaping from a drum riser. Eddie's style, technique and the like had been pretty well picked apart by the end of the 1980s. Like, by the time 1986 rolled around, even on a local level you couldn't go into a music store without hearing someone trying out a guitar doing the two-handed tapping technique followed by some fast trilling then a bunch of tremolo dive bombing. You'd go see a local rock band around that time and every guitarist had a flanger or a phase shifter along with a delay and a distortion pedal...Eddie had inspired thousands upon thousands, but from what I heard the inspiration didn't go much beyond most of them just trying to play like Eddie.

    Flash-forward 15 years or so, you get your youtube and now you've got thousands upon thousands of bedroom shredders playing Eruption on official, authorized EVH signature guitars...like, somebody online tapping on a Franky replica circa 2005 didn't mean anything more to me than it had in 1987 when I saw somebody doing it live in a music store on a Kramer Pacer. The first time I ever saw and heard somebody (besides Eddie) doing the tapping thing WAS awesome; each time subsequent to that, less so. Thus, by the time I saw Eddie's kid doing it at that Taylor Hawkins tribute show, it was yawn-inducing. Mostly because by that point I had been seeing/hearing thousands of people other than Eddie Van Halen playing Eddie Van Halen licks for 35 years.

    As to however many people out there would want to see and hear Wolfgang play Eddie's tunes, personally I'm with you in that I can't imagine anybody would want to see and hear that. Then again, I remember around the time of Live Aid 1985 where there were people hoping Julian Lennon would play some Beatles tunes onstage with McCartney, Harrison and Ringo: "man, just get Julian to play with Paul, George and Ringo and we'll all have our Beatles reunion we've been waiting for since 1970!"

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    They really are "sheep"...

    FORD's old term of "sheep" is being proven even more strongly when one looks at how they talk about Wolfgang.

    The Wolfie simps are all wanting to live some sort of dream...to them, Eddie is still alive in his "genius" son.

    His dad was hungry...and he just happened to be a guitar genius.

    His son grew up in a giant mansion, everything he ever wanted handed to him. He was NEVER "hungry." (LOOK at him...Wolfgang eats when he's still full from his last meal.)

    Wolfgang thinks: "I have a home studio. Almost every record that was recorded in this studio that my daddy gave me was financially successful." He figures, everything he records in 5150 is going to have that same measure of success.

    Well...MAMMOTH WVH (the album) hit #12 on Billboard. (I remember thinking how weird it was that he put out his album so quickly after his dad died. No time of mourning. But I couldn't help but bring myself to believe that he was rushing out his album because the Van Halen name was really in the press again with his dad's death.)

    THEN...MAMMOTH WVH II only peaks at #29 on Billboard. (The sympathy purchases were not out in droves this time. By the time of the second album, Wolfgang was also pissing off a good number of old school Van Halen fans. And people who bought the first album and didn't think it was anything special were NOT buying the 2nd album.)

    If a band is truly great (MAMMOTH WVH in the studio is NOT a band...though at least the guy who recorded those two albums by himself weighs about as much as maybe three people), they hit higher and higher chart positions with each successive release.

    The run of the albums MAMMOTH WVH and MAMMOTH WVH II has nothing in common with the run of the albums VAN HALEN and VAN HALEN II. The only growth in the MAMMOTH albums is the amount of fat on Wolfgang's body and the amount of grease in his hair and the shagginess of his beard.

    Dom DeLuise has greater sex appeal than Wolfgang Van Halen.

    Fucking John Denver was a much cooler "rock star" than Wolfgang Van Halen is (and John Denver wrote better songs).

    Fucking O.J. Simpson has more likeability than Wolfgang Van Halen. (I'd be more likely to let Simpson babysit my kid...at least I could be sure that O.J. wouldn't eat her.)

    Wolfgang Van Halen allegedly grew up listening to his dad's Dave-era records far more. It's sad that even Sammy's solo records are better than MAMMOTH WVH.

    I love listening to the sheep talk about how "down to Earth" Wolfgang is in his interviews. Sorry, but often, "down to Earth" means boring.

    Look at that woman who married Wolfgang. The idea that she married these three men because she fell for his looks and engaging personality is as believable as people taking shits in their bathrooms every day because they "can't wait for the smell."

    Listening to his mom or all the simps cheering him on as "Wolfie" makes me wanna throw up. I'm sorry: I fucking refuse to refer to a man about to turn 33 as "Wolfie."

    Even Dave referring to him as "the kid" is pretty ridiculous. In less than a decade, he'll be 40...and this "kid" currently has a weight that could match 8-10 children.

    FUCK Wolfgang Van Halen. FUCK MAMMOTH WVH.

    FUCK that fat fucking piece of shit who frequently makes shitty comments about Van Halen fans on Twitter, referring to Van Halen fans as "a crowd of twice-divorced 54 year old men." Isn't his mom TWICE-DIVORCED and wasn't his dad approaching that milestone when he passed away?
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    Wolfgang tweeted this a week ago...

    "Creed has graciously welcomed us on this upcoming tour with arms wide open so that we too may take you higher.
    Are you ready? We are. Let’s go there.
    "
    https://twitter.com/WolfVanHalen/sta...91039923032183

    That's the fucking lamest fucking Tweet EVER.

    Wolfgang's 1st album came out almost HALF A DECADE ago.

    By the time his dad's 1st album was HALF A DECADE old, he was headlining his biggest-ever show at the US FESTIVAL for half a million people.

    Here is Wolfgang...opening for fucking Creed. CREED!!!!!!!!!!!!

    FUCKING pathetic.

    P.S. The opening act for this summer's "Van Halen tribute" sham is fucking Loveboy.

    LOVERBOY!!!! (When I was an eight-year-old, growing up in Toronto, my friends and I would be in the playground making fun of LOVERBOY!!!)

    How the living fuck do the Sammy & Wolfgang sheep look at themselves in the mirror and not think they're fucking crazy???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikk View Post
    Sorry...just re-read that. I MEAN... There wasn't one audience member NOT thinking, "You know we're just here because your old man is Ol' Blue Eyes, right?"

    Frank Jr. was a talented guy...but everyone was there because of his old man.
    I knew what you meant.

    See, a lot of the ill-will is tethered to how Wolfgang has been handling himself publicly, specifically in terms of various social media outlets. Fighting with Van Halen fans online, comments he makes about other members of Van Halen in interviews, all that stuff. The net effect of all of that being it really doesn't cast Eddie's kid in a positive light, although in terms of the unwarranted arrogance on consistent display from Eddie's kid it is seemingly an accurate light re: what Eddie's kid thinks about himself, his abilities and as to if he got to where he is because he deserved to vs. being a nepo baby. There are plenty of non-famous nepo babies out there across a wide range of industries. Wolfgang just comes across as actually believing he got to where he is career-wise in spite of being Eddie Van Halen's kid rather than because of it. From where I sit, it's a bad look and a bad vibe to give off.

    However, if I liked Eddie Van Halen's kids music, the fact that Eddie Van Halen's kid is an overindulged, spoiled brat wouldn't inhibit me from enjoying it in the least. Much in the same way that the fact Dave Grohl is universally acclaimed to be a nice guy...well, good for those who know him that he's a nice guy, I guess. To me, he's a supposed nice guy who makes boring music. The fact that Eddie and Sammy had a bromance going on didn't make Van Hagar music any more appealing to me. Unfortunately, Eddie Van Halen's kid is a pampered slob with a nasty personality and a very limited amount of musical talent, thus I'm not going to jizz my shorts just because he can finger tap like his father could. I can finger tap better than Eddie Van Halen's kid, and I don't need to be playing Eddie Van Halen's gear to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikk View Post
    Wolfgang tweeted this a week ago...

    "Creed has graciously welcomed us on this upcoming tour with arms wide open so that we too may take you higher.
    Are you ready? We are. Let’s go there.
    "
    https://twitter.com/WolfVanHalen/sta...91039923032183

    That's the fucking lamest fucking Tweet EVER.

    Wolfgang's 1st album came out almost HALF A DECADE ago.

    By the time his dad's 1st album was HALF A DECADE old, he was headlining his biggest-ever show at the US FESTIVAL for half a million people.

    Here is Wolfgang...opening for fucking Creed. CREED!!!!!!!!!!!!

    FUCKING pathetic.

    P.S. The opening act for this summer's "Van Halen tribute" sham is fucking Loveboy.

    LOVERBOY!!!! (When I was an eight-year-old, growing up in Toronto, my friends and I would be in the playground making fun of LOVERBOY!!!)

    How the living fuck do the Sammy & Wolfgang sheep look at themselves in the mirror and not think they're fucking crazy???

    Hey, hey, hey, hey...












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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    I knew what you meant.

    See, a lot of the ill-will is tethered to how Wolfgang has been handling himself publicly, specifically in terms of various social media outlets. Fighting with Van Halen fans online, comments he makes about other members of Van Halen in interviews, all that stuff. The net effect of all of that being it really doesn't cast Eddie's kid in a positive light, although in terms of the unwarranted arrogance on consistent display from Eddie's kid it is seemingly an accurate light re: what Eddie's kid thinks about himself, his abilities and as to if he got to where he is because he deserved to vs. being a nepo baby. There are plenty of non-famous nepo babies out there across a wide range of industries. Wolfgang just comes across as actually believing he got to where he is career-wise in spite of being Eddie Van Halen's kid rather than because of it. From where I sit, it's a bad look and a bad vibe to give off.

    However, if I liked Eddie Van Halen's kids music, the fact that Eddie Van Halen's kid is an overindulged, spoiled brat wouldn't inhibit me from enjoying it in the least. Much in the same way that the fact Dave Grohl is universally acclaimed to be a nice guy...well, good for those who know him that he's a nice guy, I guess. To me, he's a supposed nice guy who makes boring music. The fact that Eddie and Sammy had a bromance going on didn't make Van Hagar music any more appealing to me. Unfortunately, Eddie Van Halen's kid is a pampered slob with a nasty personality and a very limited amount of musical talent, thus I'm not going to jizz my shorts just because he can finger tap like his father could. I can finger tap better than Eddie Van Halen's kid, and I don't need to be playing Eddie Van Halen's gear to do it.
    Exactly.

    I've been doing my band for many, many years.

    When my wife & I bought our house, one of my biggest WANTS (we looked at 30 houses in this nice town outside Chicago) was a finished basement in which I could put a home theater, a room for all my Star Wars shit (I'm a fucking geek), a place to put custom cabinets for all our Blu-Rays, 4Ks and DVDs...AND a home studio. And I built a nice one...even with a control room window, a vocal booth, etc. Didn't have to be a huge room...just a nice one with a good sound.

    It's my hobby...writing and recording music. I sing & play drums. Two of my best friends play guitar. And over the years, I tried out SO MANY FUCKING GUITARISTS before I settled on the two buddies I have.

    I wanted a guitarist (well, eventually it became two) who had nice gear, could play all sorts of different styles...and HAD THEIR OWN UNIQUE SOUND.

    And I cannot tell you how many players we have auditioned over the years. We have auditioned SO MANY DIFFERENT PLAYERS. There are so many different players who put out ads, claiming they are great. And when you hear them play, when you jam with them...they have not done their homework.

    But the number one thing so many players would do at auditions is they would play some meat 'n' potatoes chops for a little while...and then when it came time for a solo, they would do some sort of 2nd-rate version of the Eddie-influenced finger-tap. And then they would look at you...God, that LOOK...LOOK at me, I can play like Eddie Van Halen.

    And very quickly, they would be shown the door.

    Being a great musician is not learning the most-frequently-copied chop of a musician who changed the face of music.

    Being a great musician is finding your own style that is very appealing, developing that style so that you can introduce your sound into all sorts of kinds of music...being personally identifiable.

    I never played music so that I could become a "rock star." I play music because it makes me happy...it's how I express myself artistically. I have a family and a life outside of it.

    But if I'm going to play music, I want to play with cats who have more interest in music than just doing a good copy of the finger-tap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    ...easy with the Loverboy-bashing...Lucky Ones is secretly my shit, yo!
    Apologies.

    If you like Loverboy, I send no ill-will.

    I like Whitesnake. And I'm not ashamed of it.

    I like Montrose. And people can attack me all they want. But that first Montrose album is pretty awesome (better than anything Van Hagar ever did).

    BUT...if you're Sammy Hagar, this supposed HUGE rock star, and the opening act for your "reunion tour tribute" thingy is Loverboy...that's pretty sad.

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    I don’t get too worked up about what Wolfgang says. But he is trying to have his cake and eat it too, which is bad considering he could lose a few pounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warham View Post
    I don’t get too worked up about what Wolfgang says.
    Well, you should. This fat fuck is disparaging you as a CVH fan. He is trying to use you, while at the same time sticking a knife in your back. He is causing music that you love, to not be heard. He more than likely will keep you from ever hearing or seeing stuff that if released, would absolutely fucking BURY his garbage in both sales and views. You are part of the problem with this fat fuck. You give him a free pass because of his last name. He needs to be revolted against.

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    I hate this fat fucking Valerie Jr. piece of shit more than I hate Sammy Clichegar. By a lot.

    There. I fucking said it.

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    Von, I don’t really care what’s in the vaults. If it was good enough to be released, it would already be out there. We don’t need to hear the snippets they were working on for their second album with Cherone.

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    I’m frankly more interested in what Dave has in his vault than what’s in 5150.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warham View Post
    Von, I don’t really care what’s in the vaults. If it was good enough to be released, it would already be out there. We don’t need to hear the snippets they were working on for their second album with Cherone.
    You keep sucking off the fat Wolf boy then.

    I am very certain there is a lot more in the vault than "snippets they were working on for their second album with Cherone". But the fat Wolf boy said that all the good stuff has already been released, so you believe him, right?

    What about CVH live shows? You happy with the crappy bootlegs we have now? I guess they are good enough as long as the fat Wolf boy is releasing "new" music.

    What about the box set that WB talked about, but got shelved? You're okay with that, as long as the fat Wolf boy is releasing "new" music?

    You'd rather donate your hard earned money to the fat Wolf boy via his SHIT fucking music, than donate it to him via CVH material? Good choice.

    It is unfuckingbelievable to me that even ONE CVH fan could stick up for this fat fucking piece of shit Valerie Jr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warham View Post
    I’m frankly more interested in what Dave has in his vault than what’s in 5150.
    Like what? Outtakes of the No Holds BBQ?

    An EEAS live show with Vai butchering the EVH material every bit as bad as Satch is going to on Clichegar's tour?

    Dave singing covers of songs from 70 years ago? (Actually, I'd like to hear those.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warham View Post
    I love “Wrapped Around Your Finger”. The best part is the lyrical inversion at the end where he tells her she will be wrapped around his finger.
    Oh yes, the monkey pox man himself Sting and his misogyny of once being married.



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    I am out of here, for now. Catfish thought I was angry yesterday. Fucking Warham has me so mad now, I can't see straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    You keep sucking off the fat Wolf boy then.

    I am very certain there is a lot more in the vault than "snippets they were working on for their second album with Cherone". But the fat Wolf boy said that all the good stuff has already been released, so you believe him, right?

    What about CVH live shows? You happy with the crappy bootlegs we have now? I guess they are good enough as long as the fat Wolf boy is releasing "new" music.

    What about the box set that WB talked about, but got shelved? You're okay with that, as long as the fat Wolf boy is releasing "new" music?

    You'd rather donate your hard earned money to the fat Wolf boy via his SHIT fucking music, than donate it to him via CVH material? Good choice.

    It is unfuckingbelievable to me that even ONE CVH fan could stick up for this fat fucking piece of shit Valerie Jr.
    I haven’t bought any of Wolfgang’s albums nor have I been to any of his solo shows so I don’t know how I am supporting him. I already told you I don’t care what he says. Where did I defend him? I said he could lose a couple of pounds.

    I like live albums and videos but I hardly ever watch or listen to them. I’ve seen ‘em live, so I’m content.

    There’s no SMiLE in 5150, so I’m fine with what we got.

    I just don’t see how going after Ed’s kid really matters at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    I am out of here, for now. Catfish thought I was angry yesterday. Fucking Warham has me so mad now, I can't see straight.
    Feels like old times again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    I hate this fat fucking Valerie Jr. piece of shit more than I hate Sammy Clichegar. By a lot.

    There. I fucking said it.
    You know what??

    I fucking agree.

    I hate Sammy Hagar. I hate him a lot.

    But I don't hate him nearly as much as I hate that cunt Wolfgang.

    And from now on, I'm going to try and remember to call him fucking Valerie Jr. too. Because that's what he really is.

    He reminds me of Cinderella's fucking wicked stepsisters...fucking using the wealth of their stepfather while mistreating the one thing the stepfather cared about (in Cinderella's dad's case, it was Cinderella...for Van Halen, it's their legacy).

    Fuck him and his fucking shit cunt music.

    Yes, I don't like Sammy Hagar. But at least Sammy Hagar made the first Montrose album. Van Hagar is a joke...but I would still take certain songs like HUMANS BEING or BLACK 'N' BLUE over anything Valerie Jr. has done. I remember hearing HUMANS BEING on the radio in the car with my friends. And I remember thinking that the lyrics are stupid (some shit about "enough Christ in me") but at least the chorus was in my head after the song was done. I have NOT heard a single Valerie Jr. song that I remember afterwards. ZERO hooks. Not one.

    If I had a gun to my head and someone told me to HUM the melody of a Valerie Jr. song, I would not be able to and would have to say, "I guess you're going to have to shoot me." Not one single melody can I remember.

    Van Hagar tarnished Van Halen's legacy...but at least there was still good guitar-playing in it. Valerie Jr.'s music is not exactly getting the guitar magazines to interview him and ask, "How did you play that song I SUCK COCK AND I'M REALLY FAT?"

    Van Halen fans are all 54-year-old twice-divorced?? FUCK YOU, Wolfie. That's YOUR family situation. Not mine.

    My parents are still together.

    I'm not 50 yet and I'm still with my first wife and I hope I am 'til the day I die.

    And VH fans are 54-years old? My daughter is nine-years-old. She LOVES Van Halen.

    I kid you not...one day, my daughter & I got in the car to drive her to school and I put on SiriusXM, and (one of those rare times this happens), Van Hagar was fucking playing. She looked at the display and it said VAN HALEN.

    "Baba, is this that Sammy Hagar guy singing?"
    "Yes, honey."
    "So, this isn't David Lee Roth?"
    "No."
    "Then turn it off. I really don't like his voice."

    That SOUNDS like something I would make up to tell a good message board story...but it's 100% true.

    The latest sheep stance is that not just Dave is responsible for all the division and problems in the world...it's Alex too.

    If you dare say anything like, "Wolfgang is keeping the vaults closed so that people pay attention to HIS career," they get fucking angry as shit. They will insult you. You do NOT destroy the honor of the fat-man.

    And they're SO full of shit. I mean, for Christ's sake, Valerie's brother is Valerie Jr.'s manager. What does THAT tell you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warham View Post
    I like live albums and videos but I hardly ever watch or listen to them. I’ve seen ‘em live, so I’m content.
    Damn you Warham. I'm trying to get out of here! I LOVE live shows. And I saw the original plenty of times. I want more. I want to be able to sit on my couch and put on a good quality live show, at my leisure! That fat fuck Wolf boy is preventing me from my pleasure! Fortunately the fat fucker does not have the ability to prevent me from pleasuring myself!

    Quote Originally Posted by Warham View Post
    I just don’t see how going after Ed’s kid really matters at this point.
    The fat fuck Wolf boy is going after US! CVH fan! He thinks we aren't going to retaliate? Fuck that. We are going to hit him right in his fat gut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warham View Post
    I’m frankly more interested in what Dave has in his vault than what’s in 5150.
    War, I like you. It's been good seeing you around.

    But you're really telling me that you wouldn't get excited if Valerie Jr. didn't finally let the world hear the Oakland '81 live album, mixed at the Record Plant?

    It was in Noel Monk's inventory list (posted again a few days ago).

    It is a multi-track-recorded FULL Van Halen show from the FAIR WARNING tour. 16 reels, I believe it said.

    The sad part of the story seems to be true...they did only film the three songs in Oakland.

    But they recorded the whole fucking show.

    If they released that as a double-CD, triple-LP live album, that would be one of the best Van Halen albums ever released...maybe ever-released.

    But I bet you we won't hear it because Valerie Jr., Valerie's brother & Valerie want to make sure that the world waits with baited breath for the next album of pure shit that pays Valerie Jr.'s ever-growing grocery bills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    I LOVE live shows. And I saw the original plenty of times. I want more. I want to be able to sit on my couch and put on a good quality live show, at my leisure!
    This.

    Exactly.

    I talk about my daughter a lot (but that's because my daughter is the most important thing in my world). I am training her to be educated on the greatness of music.

    I watched SONG REMAINS THE SAME with her in our home theater when she was five. When STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN came on, she walked over and sat on my lap on the floor, staring up at the big screen, gazing at this great band. Her eyes were wide. When the solo kicked in, she started dancing around the room. When the movie was over, she looked at me and said, "Thank you. That was SO awesome. Can we watch that movie again soon?

    THAT is one of the big reasons I want a high-quality VH show released. I want to SHOW her why Van Halen with Dave was as special as Zeppelin and some of the other bands she loves.

    And if there are more classic songs in the vaults, I want to be able to listen to them...not let them sit in a box where the tape is being slowly degraded...ALL BECAUSE IT HURTS THE EGO OF A RICH GUY WHO IS SO FAT THAT JOGGERS TAKE LAPS AROUND HIM FOR EXERCISE!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Damn you Warham. I'm trying to get out of here! I LOVE live shows. And I saw the original plenty of times. I want more. I want to be able to sit on my couch and put on a good quality live show, at my leisure! That fat fuck Wolf boy is preventing me from my pleasure! Fortunately the fat fucker does not have the ability to prevent me from pleasuring myself!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikk View Post
    War, I like you. It's been good seeing you around.

    But you're really telling me that you wouldn't get excited if Valerie Jr. didn't finally let the world hear the Oakland '81 live album, mixed at the Record Plant?

    It was in Noel Monk's inventory list (posted again a few days ago).

    It is a multi-track-recorded FULL Van Halen show from the FAIR WARNING tour. 16 reels, I believe it said.

    The sad part of the story seems to be true...they did only film the three songs in Oakland.

    But they recorded the whole fucking show.

    If they released that as a double-CD, triple-LP live album, that would be one of the best Van Halen albums ever released...maybe ever-released.

    But I bet you we won't hear it because Valerie Jr., Valerie's brother & Valerie want to make sure that the world waits with baited breath for the next album of pure shit that pays Valerie Jr.'s ever-growing grocery bills.
    I like you too, Rikk but I think you are putting too much of the blame on Wolfgang and forgetting how disfunctional they were before he ever replaced Anthony. You are letting Ed, Al and Dave off the hook. Mike just went along for the ride. If Van Halen (the corporation) owns the recordings, that doesn’t mean that Wolfgang can just sit on it indefinitely if Al and Dave want it released. I don’t buy him just being able to stifle the other guys indefinitely. I don’t think Dave or Al really care about a 1981 live show being released.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warham View Post
    I like you too, Rikk but I think you are putting too much of the blame on Wolfgang and forgetting how disfunctional they were before he ever replaced Anthony. You are letting Ed, Al and Dave off the hook. If Van Halen (the corporation) owns the recordings, that doesn’t mean that Wolfgang can just sit on it indefinitely if Al and Dave want it released. I don’t buy him just being able to stifle the other guys indefinitely. I don’t think Dave or Al really care about a 1981 live show being released.
    My political views may lean very liberal socially.

    But I AM a goddamn Capitalist (and a Fiscal Conservative).

    And I cannot believe how stupid the Van Halen camp is.

    There would be FUCKING HUGE DEMAND for a Van Halen show like Oakland 1981 (FAIR WARNING Tour) mixed on multi-track. It would be HUGE. Even that idiot Eddie Trunk would have to call it one of the most important live albums ever released.

    So...if the Van Halen camp is so stupid to fucking sit on something so amazing as that...if they are not willing to SUPPLY the DEMAND, then that is so fucking stupid.

    All I know is: Alex was mixing SOME stuff 12-18 months ago. I heard that from three different sources. He was looking at SOME THINGS in the vault.

    And then it got shut down. And the rumor is that Valerie Jr. shut it down because he didn't want it competing with MAMMOTH WEIGHT II.

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    This is literally a band who had four lead singers in one year and people expected them to get their shit together with vault releases?

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    Wolfgang has no originality. That’s why I don’t care about what he says or does. His stuff isn’t even in the same stratosphere as Van Halen (any of it, really).

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    We need to get some of the other old timers here so Von can really put on a show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warham View Post
    I like you too, Rikk but I think you are putting too much of the blame on Wolfgang and forgetting how disfunctional they were before he ever replaced Anthony. You are letting Ed, Al and Dave off the hook. Mike just went along for the ride. If Van Halen (the corporation) owns the recordings, that doesn’t mean that Wolfgang can just sit on it indefinitely if Al and Dave want it released. I don’t buy him just being able to stifle the other guys indefinitely. I don’t think Dave or Al really care about a 1981 live show being released.
    The one important point you are forgetting, my friend, is that (unlike what some cunt sheep are lying about or claiming) Valerie Jr. would have been the one who inherits Eddie's shares in the band and his percentage owning of the original recordings and votes on band decisions. They do NOT just go to the other guys in the band. A band is a corporation...and a person's shares go to who they are willed to. And there is no way Eddie would have willed that to anyone other than his son. (He gave Valerie Jr. the studio, didn't he?)

    It's like Nirvana. They recorded their last song (and one of their best) called YOU KNOW YOU'RE RIGHT a little over two months before Cobain died.

    In 2000, Nirvana wanted to release it as part of a box set of unreleased material. But Courtney Love (a shady enough character, but I'm not getting into that now) owned Cobain's shares in the band and would NOT allow the band to release it in a box set. She fought them. It went to court. In the end, they had to give in to her and it eventually got released in a useless Greatest Hits album in 2002 (as the one new song) and made her a LOT of money (big album). When their box set of unreleased material came out finally in 2004, the best song meant for it was NOT in it.

    This is the kind of shit that happens when band members die.

    Just ask Soundgarden why they haven't been able to finish and release their final album they were working on when Chris Cornell died. His widow owns the rights to his final vocals on the multi-track tapes. And until they make peace with her and she gives her ok, it ain't never gonna happen. (They allegedly made peace last April, but Matt Cameron just said in an interview that they're fighting again and she isn't going to let them finish the album until they give her what she wants.)

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    I can’t blame Wolfgang when they could have done this shit 20 years ago.

    The 1996 Best Of was about as lackluster of a greatest hits package as you could imagine despite the two songs with Dave. They didn’t care what fans wanted or else we never would have gotten that sham.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Damn you Warham. I'm trying to get out of here! I LOVE live shows. And I saw the original plenty of times. I want more. I want to be able to sit on my couch and put on a good quality live show, at my leisure! That fat fuck Wolf boy is preventing me from my pleasure! Fortunately the fat fucker does not have the ability to prevent me from pleasuring myself!



    The fat fuck Wolf boy is going after US! CVH fan! He thinks we aren't going to retaliate? Fuck that. We are going to hit him right in his fat gut.
    Von Halen, aren't you also cuntcerned with all the Van Hagar era live shows that Wolf is holding hostage? Maybe you can be seen pumping your fist in some of those?

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