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  • DLR'sCock
    Crazy Ass Mofo
    • Jan 2004
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    Young Republicans Support Iraq War, but Not Willing to Join the Fight

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    Young Republicans Support Iraq War, but Not Willing to Join the Fight
    By Adam Smeltz
    Knight Ridder Newspapers

    Wednsday 01 September 2004

    NEW YORK - Young Republicans gathered here for their party's national convention are united in applauding the war in Iraq, supporting the U.S. troops there and calling the U.S. mission a noble cause.

    But there's no such unanimity when they're asked a more personal question: Would you be willing to put on the uniform and go to fight in Iraq?

    In more than a dozen interviews, Republicans in their teens and 20s offered a range of answers. Some have friends in the military in Iraq and are considering enlisting; others said they can better support the war by working politically in the United States; and still others said they think the military doesn't need them because the U.S. presence in Iraq is sufficient.

    "Frankly, I want to be a politician. I'd like to survive to see that," said Vivian Lee, 17, a war supporter visiting the convention from Los Angeles,

    Lee said she supports the war but would volunteer only if the United States faced a dire troop shortage or "if there's another Sept. 11."

    "As long as there's a steady stream of volunteers, I don't see why I necessarily should volunteer," said Lee, who has a cousin deployed in the Middle East.

    In an election season overwhelmed by memories of the Vietnam War, the U.S. military's newest war ranks supreme among the worries confronting much of Generation Y'ers. Iraq is their war.

    "If there was a need presented, I would go," said Chris Cusmano, a 21-year-old member of the College Republicans organization from Rocky Point, N.Y. But he said he hasn't really considered volunteering.

    At age 16, Chase Carpenter has.

    "It's always in the back of my mind - to enlist," Carpenter, a self-described moderate Republican visiting Manhattan this week from Santa Monica, Calif., said Wednesday on the convention floor. He said he's torn over whether he'd join the military if he were 18.

    Others said they could contribute on the home front.

    "I physically probably couldn't do a whole lot" in Iraq, said Tiffanee Hokel, 18, of Webster City, Iowa, who called the war a moral imperative. She knows people posted in Iraq, but she didn't flinch when asked why she wouldn't go.

    "I think I could do more here," Hokel said, adding that she's focusing on political action that supports the war and the troops.

    "We don't have to be there physically to fight it," she said.

    Similarly, 20-year-old Jeff Shafer, a University of Pennsylvania student, said vital work needs to be done in the United States. There are Republican policies to maintain and protect and an economy to sustain, Shafer said.

    Then there's Paula Villescaz, a 15-year-old from Carmichael, Calif. who supports Bush and was all ears Wednesday afternoon at the GOP's Youth Convention in Madison Square Garden. She doesn't support the war, but she supports the troops and thinks the United States "needs to stay the course" now that it's immersed.

    If Iraq is still a U.S. issue when she's 18, Villescaz added, she'll give serious thought to volunteering.

    "I'm in college right now, but who knows?" said Matthew Vail, a 25-year-old from Huntsville, Ala., who works with Students for Bush. He said he might consider enlisting after he finishes his degree at the University of North Carolina, but not until then.

    "The bug may get me after college," he said.
  • ELVIS
    Banned
    • Dec 2003
    • 44120

    #2
    Like YOU are ready to fight ???

    Give me a fucking break...

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    • DLR'sCock
      Crazy Ass Mofo
      • Jan 2004
      • 2937

      #3
      If you want to send people somewhere to be killed and kill then YOU should share the SAME direct consequences....

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      • ELVIS
        Banned
        • Dec 2003
        • 44120

        #4
        What, "KILLED" ??

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 58754

          #5
          Originally posted by ELVIS
          What, "KILLED" ??
          If you're convinced that God wants Bush to take over the world, then why would you question God's will for you to die for the glory of PNAC?
          Eat Us And Smile

          Cenk For America 2024!!

          Justice Democrats


          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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          • ELVIS
            Banned
            • Dec 2003
            • 44120

            #6
            Someone has to be the leader!

            Holy shit!


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            • Big Train
              Full Member Status

              • Apr 2004
              • 4011

              #7
              What a spacy theory that is!!!


              Then EVERY Democrat in the US, if they respect themselves and what they say the believe, should be in NYC RIGHT NOW or they really don't believe what they are saying. Ford, where are you standing right now?

              There are plenty of Republicans in the armed services right now.

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              • Satan
                ROTH ARMY ELITE
                • Jan 2004
                • 6663

                #8
                Originally posted by ELVIS
                Someone has to be the leader!

                Holy shit!


                Silly Mr. Presley.....

                Now if you have read your Bible, you know exactly who the next world leader will be working for
                Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

                Originally posted by Sockfucker
                I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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                • ELVIS
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 44120

                  #9
                  Not quite...

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                  • Sgt Schultz
                    Commando
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 1268

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DLR'sCock
                    If you want to send people somewhere to be killed and kill then YOU should share the SAME direct consequences....
                    This is Michael Mooreism at work. Our soldiers in Iraq are being sent there to be killed, right? If you support the war then YOU have to grab and gun and fight too, right? Hogwash.

                    If YOU don't think we should have liberated millions of people from totalitarianism then YOU should have to live in North Korea for awhile, that's the only way YOU'LL be allowed to have an opinion about it, right?

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                    • Big Train
                      Full Member Status

                      • Apr 2004
                      • 4011

                      #11
                      your right Sgt. Follow the logic further and ANY conflict you think America SHOULD get involved in, you have to. The Sudan or any of the other 7-10 wars currently going on in the world at any given time.

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                      • ELVIS
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 44120

                        #12
                        ~Ha!~


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                        • knuckleboner
                          Crazy Ass Mofo
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 2927

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sgt Schultz

                          If YOU don't think we should have liberated millions of people from totalitarianism
                          i don't think we intended to liberate millions...(at least not directly. it was a happy bi-product...)

                          but i agree with the rest.

                          if everybody joined the military, who would make the butter? (or teach our kids, or fix my plumbing or....etc., etc.

                          in an all volunteer army, it's a weak argument to suggest that not enlisting removes one's ability to support military action.

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                          • ELVIS
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 44120

                            #14
                            Originally posted by knuckleboner
                            in an all volunteer army, it's a weak argument to suggest that not enlisting removes one's ability to support military action.
                            Finally, a voice of reason...

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                            • Satan
                              ROTH ARMY ELITE
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 6663

                              #15
                              Originally posted by knuckleboner


                              in an all volunteer army, it's a weak argument to suggest that not enlisting removes one's ability to support military action.
                              That's not the argument. The argument is that young Republicans, who are often the children of priveledge, such as Bush Jr was, support the actions because they KNOW that they will never be called on to enlist. Same with Congress. If memory serves me correctly, there are very few members of the House and Senate with children in the active military.
                              Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

                              Originally posted by Sockfucker
                              I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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