Peugeot-Citroen: The All-American Car Company?

[ELVIS]

Yeah but if Ford and Chrysler play by China's rules and GM did what you propose it would put them at a disadvantage. The tariffs would kill sales.

Build Buicks and Chevys there if they need to...

Not Cadillacs...

It kills the brand image and when that's gone it's all gone...

[ELVIS]

It's no more "plasticky" than any of the competition.

Bullshit...

That's why the only place you see one is on the back of a Chevy lot next to the dusty volt nobody wants...

[ELVIS]

And I'd take a Fit over a Sonic or 500 any day...

[Von Halen]

Charge the fucking Chinese the shipping cost...

Why not?

They charge us here in Detroit the exact same "Destination Charge" they charge to ship anywhere in the U.S., even if the Dealer is a block from the plant.

[Nickdfresh]

Build Buicks and Chevys there if they need to...

Not Cadillacs...

It kills the brand image and when that's gone it's all gone...

LOL Um, they've already fucked over the brand image with the awesome Cadillac Caviler, er, Cimarron!

[Nickdfresh]

And I'd take a Fit over a Sonic or 500 any day...

You're insane. Those things are shit to drive, the panel is horrible...

[Von Halen]

And I'd take a Fit over a Sonic or 500 any day...

My Father In Law has a Fit.

A lot of repairs...

[ELVIS]

So keep doing it ??

Like Von said...

Fuck GM !!

[twonabomber]

I wouldn't drive Generic Motors anything in the future. I don't care what they come out with.

I have been looking at used CTS-V's sedans and wagons. Then I go on the Dodge site and build an SRT Charger, then to the Jeep site and build a Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon...I'd probably get a better deal on one of those with my dad's employee/retiree discount.

[Nickdfresh]

Honda is way overrated. They "reliability" monicker is taking a severe hit. Never, ever buy the POS Honda Pilot. The 3.5L engines in those things are sludging like the toilet the morning after eating a Paula Deen recipe...

[ELVIS]

My Father In Law has a Fit.

A lot of repairs...

Just changed my mind...

I don't buy new cars anyway...

I rotate used vehicles...

Currently I own three GM trucks and I'm supposed to be a Mopar guy...

[twonabomber]

My Father In Law has a Fit.

A lot of repairs...

Clown car.

My brother has an Aveo, with a year newer motor in it. It was throwing a code so he was able to talk the guy way down on it. My brother likes it for his commute but the kids hate it. They'd rather roll in mom's Commander.

[ELVIS]

Honda is way overrated.

I wouldn't go that far...

I work on vehicles all the time and Honda's don't have a lot of problems...

[ELVIS]

I have been looking at used CTS-V's sedans and wagons. Then I go on the Dodge site and build an SRT Charger, then to the Jeep site and build a Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon...I'd probably get a better deal on one of those with my dad's employee/retiree discount.

The CTS-V is neat, but not really all that nice...

Any SRT will age better than the GM offerings...

[Nickdfresh]

I wouldn't go that far...

I work on vehicles all the time and Honda's don't have a lot of problems...

They're better than average overall maybe, but getting they also get a free pass on their problems they create and like to ignore. I had a girlfriend who had the old late-80's, early 90's Civic that had a bad headgasket. Those cars were infamous for them...