The Rise In "Rape Talk"

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  • Kristy
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Aug 2004
    • 16338

    The Rise In "Rape Talk"



    He was given every chance to apologise. But on the Today programme yesterday, the world heavyweight champion, David Haye, seemed unrepentant. On Tuesday, publicising his upcoming bout against Audley Harrison, he promised to "violate" his opponent, adding that the match would be as "one-sided as a gang rape". A wave of criticism crashed over him, and on Thursday, when asked by a Today presenter whether he would like to issue a mea culpa, and address his allusions to rape, Haye ducked the question and simply offered this strange explanation: "You'll have to wait and see the fight first," he said, "I'm talking about the one-sidedness of the fight." He wasn't actually going to gang rape Harrison, he added, which was certainly good to know.

    By dodging an apology, Haye implied he hadn't said anything wrong, that there was no need to express regret; indeed, earlier this week he tweeted: "If I apologised for every stupid/ignorant thing I said, I wouldn't have time for anything else during the day!" And, in some ways, Haye's jovial, unapologetic response isn't surprising. After all, the use of the word "rape" to describe all kinds of bad experience – from getting beaten up in a boxing match, to having your hairdo completely ruined – has recently become usual, average, shruggable. Just as the word "gay" has been twisted by pop culture, used to refer to someone or something a bit uncool, the word "rape" is now regularly used where "nightmare" or an apt expletive would previously have been in order.

    An example of so-called rape talk? Coming out of an exercise class recently, a guy turned to one of my friends, sweating and breathless, and heaved a sigh of satisfied exhaustion. "Wow, that was just like being raped, wasn't it?" he said. My friend stood motionless, blinking back at him. Another? In the July issue of UK Elle, the Twilight star Kristen Stewart talked about being trailed by the paparazzi, saying that when she sees the resulting photographs: "I feel like I'm looking at someone being raped." (Stewart later apologised for the comparison). Online, there has been a lot of talk about "Facebook rape": a term used to describe a third party getting access to someone's Facebook account and changing their details. Almost 1.3 million people are fans of the Facebook page "Thanks wind, you have totally raped my hair", where photos of windswept women are posted. And the rightwing US shock jocks, always ahead of the crowd with vile, vicious language, have been using rape talk for years. In separate discussions of healthcare reform last year, Rush Limbaugh warned his listeners, "get ready to get gang-raped again", while Glenn Beck compared himself and his viewers to "the young girl saying, 'No, no, help me,'" while "the government is Roman Polanski".
  • Kristy
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    • Aug 2004
    • 16338

    #2
    He totally raped that article.

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    • kwame k
      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
      • Feb 2008
      • 11302

      #3
      My eyes feel like they've been raped after reading that article.......
      Originally posted by vandeleur
      E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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      • Kristy
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 16338

        #4
        Stuff like this never used to bother me at all. And now it does. Not hugely, but a bit. It's effectively become a word of emphasis now. I'm not debating whether it's right or wrong necessarily. I don't think it's a smart word to use - but neither can you say anyone who uses it condones the practice. It's insensitive, definitely.

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        • kwame k
          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
          • Feb 2008
          • 11302

          #5
          Can't say I ever use it regularly........I have said it when I have been over charged for something but really can't see it coming into vogue.
          Originally posted by vandeleur
          E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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          • Kristy
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 16338

            #6
            I think it would probably be better if we just ignored bad taste. You have people like Howard Stern making rape jokes. Everyone has a right to be offended but it's possible to get offended by much these days. No harm in writing articles pointing out its worrying legitimization I suppose; misogyny is accepted in mainstream culture in a way that racism isn't.

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            • kwame k
              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
              • Feb 2008
              • 11302

              #7
              I'm out and about most everyday and interact with a ton of people.....I have not heard people using it but I guess I can understand the concern.
              Originally posted by vandeleur
              E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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              • Little Texan
                Full Member Status

                • Jan 2004
                • 4579

                #8
                Originally posted by kwame k
                Can't say I ever use it regularly........I have said it when I have been over charged for something but really can't see it coming into vogue.
                I use the expression "raped my wallet" for that situation.

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                • Nitro Express
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 32797

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Kristy
                  Stuff like this never used to bother me at all. And now it does. Not hugely, but a bit. It's effectively become a word of emphasis now. I'm not debating whether it's right or wrong necessarily. I don't think it's a smart word to use - but neither can you say anyone who uses it condones the practice. It's insensitive, definitely.
                  The word fuck used to be socially taboo. It was the mother of dirty words and you caught shit for using it around halfway decent people. Now you can't go out in public without hearing it blurted out. Once society accepts that it's only a matter of time before something more tasteless and offensive becomes the norm.
                  No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                  • Nitro Express
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 32797

                    #10
                    What always amused me is my dad owned a construction company and I heard all the choice words out on the job sites. Then I graduated from college and started working in office environments and I heard more foul language and talk in offices than I ever heard on a construction site. Stock brokers were the worst scumbags as far as that went.
                    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                    • ELVIS
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 44120

                      #11
                      So, we can't say ******, rape, terrorist, illegal alien, shoot, crosshairs, target or bomb...

                      What is the world coming to...


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                      • ELVIS
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 44120

                        #12
                        Any other words we can no longer say ??

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                        • Seshmeister
                          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                          • Oct 2003
                          • 35163

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Kristy
                          Everyone has a right to be offended but it's possible to get offended by much these days.
                          No one has the right not to be offended.

                          Don't really get the original story since the word rape has always had multiple contexts e.g. that land was raped by the chemical company.

                          Still I see the thread has given ELVIS the opportunity to be oh so radical by using the only banned word here for the millionth time. You want to start paying the bills and doing the work then maybe you can sit there typing it all day long. Right up to the point when everyone else leaves.

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                          • Seshmeister
                            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                            • Oct 2003
                            • 35163

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ELVIS
                            Any other words we can no longer say ??

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                            • kwame k
                              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 11302

                              #15
                              Well he must think it's cool to use the only word that's banned from this place.....

                              He's a rebel, man!

                              What's next for this bad boy.....dick pics!
                              Originally posted by vandeleur
                              E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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