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  • Va Beach VH Fan
    ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
    • Dec 2003
    • 17913

    Boston Bruins visit White House: Tim Thomas skips due to political differences

    I know it's a sports story, but it's a political theme....



    WASHINGTON, DC -- While congratulating the Boston Bruins on their 2011 Stanley Cup Championship, President Barack Obama did the obligatory spotlighting of key players in that run. Zdeno Chara got the height joke. Brad Marchand was chided for being the "Little Ball of Hate." Tim Thomas was celebrated for being only the second American player to win playoff MVP, having posted two shutouts in the Final.

    Chara smiled.

    Marchand blushed.

    Thomas wasn't there to hear it.

    Bruins GM Peter Chiarelli confirmed that Thomas had told him months ago he would not attend the White House event due to his political and ideological differences with the Obama administration. Chiarelli said he had tried to convince Thomas to attend the event "over the last couple months" to no avail.

    "He chose not to come. The reasons behind it I think he'll make the media aware through his Facebook," said Chiarelli.

    The GM said that he could have mandated Thomas attend the event, but chose not to. "I can require someone to attend a team event. If they don't, I can suspend him. But I'm not going to suspend Tim. Whatever his position is isn't representative of the Boston Bruins or my own. But I'm not going to suspend him."

    Bruins team president Cam Neely said the decision was Thomas's and the team honored his choice.
    "Everybody has their own opinions and political beliefs. He chose not to join us," said Neely. "We certainly would have liked to have him come and join us but that's his choice. All the guys came except for Tim. It's his decision and his choice."

    While his politics aren't common knowledge among many hockey fans, Thomas hasn't hidden his political leanings. He's a fan of former Fox News Channel host Glenn Beck, once saying he aspired to appear on Beck's talk show as a guest.

    Big Government, a website founded by conservative blogger Andrew Breitbart, celebrated Thomas as a "true Tea Party patriot" for having "In God We Trust" and the Gadsden flag on his mask. From Big Government:

    In addition to displaying his support for the Tea Party on the ice, Thomas is a FreedomWorks donor, giving generously right before the historic November 2010 elections, according to the FEC.
    Chiarelli said he hoped Thomas's decision not to attend the White House event wouldn't overshadow the Bruins' day.

    "We're like a family. We have our issues. You deal with them and move on, and try and support everyone," he said. "It may or may not. If it does … I hope it doesn't. The guys enjoyed the day."

    My take: Good on Thomas.

    Good on Thomas for using this moment — where a professional sports team participates in what's both an honor for their accomplishments and a political photo opportunity — to make a political statement of his own.

    It's the moment when Thomas will no doubt lose a lot of supporters, for sure, when they realize an athlete they celebrate has stark political differences than they have. He's not the first nor the last athlete to choose not to visit the White House.

    It's a moment in which a professional athlete uses his fame, his influence for something he believes in, and does something that won't be popular among fans or media. Sean Avery did the same thing: Potentially alienating his teammates by taking a political stand on gay marriage.

    If he's celebrated and Thomas is demonized, what does that say about our real tolerance of free speech? That it's only free when we agree with it?

    (And for the "separation of politics and hockey" crowd — that flies out the window when you agree to be a backdrop to a speech in an election year. Or any year.)

    There's a difference between freedom of speech and speech without consequence, of course. This is the moment when Tim Thomas, the most valuable player to his team last June, did something that detracted from his teammates' celebration. This is the moment when, for better or worse, he becomes something more than the blue-collar hockey player from Flint with the great backstory and the sterling save percentage.

    And as long as he's willing to accept that his absence from an event that even Tomas Kaberle attended has overshadowed this day and changed his profile as an athlete, then like Cam Neely I'll respect the decision.
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  • Va Beach VH Fan
    ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
    • Dec 2003
    • 17913

    #2
    A little background:

    Several other athletes have skipped their respective visits to the White House over political differences, such as the Steelers' James Harrison during Dubya's time, not to mention some NASCAR drivers....

    My .02 - Regardless of your individual political beliefs, YOU GO, out of respect to the Office of the Presidency.

    I met both Democratic (Clinton) and Republican (Bush Sr.) during my 20 years in the Navy, and I considered it an honor each time.....

    I'm sure no one has any comments about this....
    Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

    "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

    "We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49203

      #3
      Stop pucks and STFU. What are Tim dum dum's "differences" with Obama anyways? That he was born in Kenya? Is a secret Muslim? A "socialist" without actually knowing what the fuck one is?..

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      • LoungeMachine
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Jul 2004
        • 32576

        #4
        Hockey Player disses White House...



        This should put Iran on the backburner for sure.....
        Originally posted by Kristy
        Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
        Originally posted by cadaverdog
        I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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        • Va Beach VH Fan
          ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
          • Dec 2003
          • 17913

          #5
          Originally posted by Nickdfresh
          Stop pucks and STFU. What are Tim dum dum's "differences" with Obama anyways? That he was born in Kenya? Is a secret Muslim? A "socialist" without actually knowing what the fuck one is?..
          Timmy's a big Glenn Beck supporter....

          That's about all you need to know...
          Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

          "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

          "We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth

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          • Combat Ready
            Foot Soldier
            • Mar 2007
            • 572

            #6
            Just makes these guys look a little silly, regardless of politics, IMO. Would be quite the honor and pretty cool to meet the President and check out the White House? I think so....

            And kinda' takes a little away from the team, by drawing attention to himself instead? These events are not political at all.

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            • Jagermeister
              Full Member Status

              • Apr 2010
              • 4510

              #7
              Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
              Timmy's a big Glenn Beck supporter....

              That's about all you need to know...
              Outside of that I think the guy made the right choice. I have never met the Pres but I can only think of one I wouldn't want to meet and that's Obama. Shit, and maybe Jimmy Carter.

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              • LoungeMachine
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Jul 2004
                • 32576

                #8
                I doubt you need to worry about any presidential invites, Jagoff.

                Originally posted by Kristy
                Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                Originally posted by cadaverdog
                I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                • Jagermeister
                  Full Member Status

                  • Apr 2010
                  • 4510

                  #9
                  Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                  I doubt you need to worry about any presidential invites, Jagoff.

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                  • Seshmeister
                    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                    • Oct 2003
                    • 35192

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan

                    I'm sure no one has any comments about this....
                    Just curious about what you managed to steal? I guess an ashtray is the obvious one to go for, probably best to avoid cigar cases with Clinton.

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                    • Romeo Delight
                      ROCKSTAR

                      • Feb 2005
                      • 5139

                      #11
                      No one is perfect, but watching the US political process unfold is kind of like watching Bert and Ernie

                      sigpicRoth Army Canada

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                      • Va Beach VH Fan
                        ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 17913

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Seshmeister
                        Just curious about what you managed to steal? I guess an ashtray is the obvious one to go for, probably best to avoid cigar cases with Clinton.
                        LOL.... I actually met Clinton in the Pentagon, and met Bush Sr. in the little roadway between the White House and Old Executive Office Building next to it....

                        But I've been in the White House maybe 50 times.... Went down in the galley plenty of times, had Navy cooks in there, grab a soda or a something like that.... Couple of times got those M&M's with the Seal of the President on them, one with Clinton's facsimile signature on it...
                        Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

                        "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

                        "We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth

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                        • FORD
                          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                          • Jan 2004
                          • 58783

                          #13
                          I knew that guy was a douchebag when I watched the Stanley Cup last year. Somehow finding out he's a BecKKK loving teabagging friend of the Koch Brothers doesn't surprise me in the least.
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                          • jhale667
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 20929

                            #14
                            So his reason was "because I'm an a**hat"....

                            Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
                            Timmy's a big Glenn Beck supporter....

                            That's about all you need to know...
                            Pretty much says it all right there, doesn't it?


                            Originally posted by Jerkoffrmeister
                            Outside of that I think the guy made the right choice.
                            Yeah....and you're not paid to think - which is well documented around here.

                            I have never met the Pres but I can only think of one I wouldn't want to meet and that's Obama.

                            Pretty safe bet that's NOT because of a political difference on your part. So it's f***ing irrelevant.

                            Shit, and maybe Jimmy Carter.
                            Why, what did HE do?
                            Originally posted by conmee
                            If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                            That is all.

                            Icon.
                            Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                            I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                            Originally posted by Isaac R.
                            Then it's really true??:eek:

                            The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                            OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                            Originally posted by eddie78
                            I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                            • sadaist
                              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 11625

                              #15
                              Just stupid. You get a chance to be honored by the President of the United States at the White House, you go. Regardless of your political feelings. It's a once in a lifetime chance and it's stupid to not attend. It's a moment that is above politics.
                              “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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