Meet America's Biggest Welfare Queens

[Satan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6ndHg9sY3g

[Kristy]

So what are you trying to say here? That WARF no longer qualifies?

[Satan]

Not even Socky gets as much welfare as the corporations.

[Kristy]

At least he gets free mental health care. Now, if only Elvis did.

[jacksmar]

Back on topic.

Products made from oil:

Ammonia
Antifreeze
Antiseptics
Art supplies
Artificial limbs
Aspirin
Astroturf
Awnings
Bandages
Cleaning products
Candles
Carpets
Caulking
Clothing
Crayons
Creams
Cosmetics
Cutlery
Dentures
Dice
Dyes
Electronics
Film
Fishing line
Floor wax
Foam
Glasses
Glue
Glycerin
Guitar strings
Heart valves
Helmets
Ink
Insulation
Lubricants
Medicine
Nail polish
Nylon
Paint
Paint brushes
Panty hose
Petroleum jelly
Plastics
Records
Refrigerant
Roofing
Shampoo
Shaving cream
Shoes
Shower curtains
Skis
Soap
Solvents
Sports equipment
Tires
Toys
Trash bags
Umbrellas
Upholstery
Vitamin capsules

Walk down any grocery aisle and try to find no trace of oil. Even your "organic food" food stores. You can't do it. Go to a hospital. Same deal.

Oil is the fuel of the engine for capitalism and freedom. Period.

[jacksmar]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gurufocus/2013/11/15/warren-buffetts-berkshire-hathaway-buys-exxon-mobil-davita-sells-conocophillips-glaxosmithkline/

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[Satan]

Walk down any grocery aisle and try to find no trace of oil. Even your "organic food" food stores. You can't do it. Go to a hospital. Same deal.

Oil is the fuel of the engine for capitalism and freedom. Period.

By the design of the oil corporations, in open collusion with other greedy corporations, most of whom share board members with the oil corporations.

Though the fact is that most "petroleum based" plastics and chemicals could be made - and in most cases more efficiently and environmentally safer - from natural, renewable sources such as hemp.

Remarkably enough, the technology to do so isn't even all that new. A full century ago, Henry Ford not only wanted to run his cars on hemp based fuels, but wanted to build the car bodies from hemp fiber as well. It's just a damned shame this idea wasn't as embraced like his assembly line manufacturing procedures were.

[jacksmar]

WTF do you give a shit about Henry Ford, FORD?

Save your bullshit for for Obamacare, go fuck a hippie male or female, and get the fuck off the internet. You just killed a coal mine.

[jacksmar]

Every person who shall monopolize, or attempt to monopolize, or combine or conspire with any other person or persons, to monopolize any part of the trade or commerce among the several States, or with foreign nations, shall be deemed guilty of a felony.

Excluding Obamacare.

[Satan]

What does any of this jerksmear pro-predatory corporatism rant have to do with corporate welfare anyway?

It's two entirely different discussions. Because even if you are delusional enough to believe that unregulated monopolistic corporations are somehow "good" for the USA, that still doesn't justify taxpayers being forced to subsidize them.

[Satan]

Every person who shall monopolize, or attempt to monopolize, or combine or conspire with any other person or persons, to monopolize any part of the trade or commerce among the several States, or with foreign nations, shall be deemed guilty of a felony.

Excluding Obamacare.

How is Obamacare a "monopoly"?

You are forced to pay money to a private corporation, but not to one single private corporation.

[Satan]

WTF do you give a shit about Henry Ford, FORD?

As I said, Henry's assembly line procedures revolutionized the auto industry, and other industries took note and followed. His forward thinking on hemp fuels and fiber (as opposed to rotting dinosaur carcasses) might have done likewise. Now this doesn't mean Henry was any kind of saint. He was almost as big of a fan of Adolf Hitler as the BCE, for example.


Save your bullshit for for Obamacare, go fuck a hippie male or female, and get the fuck off the internet. You just killed a coal mine.

Somebody needs to kill ALL of the coal mines. As far as fucking hippie females, that can be fun, but I have plenty of succubi here in Hell who meet a Devil's carnal needs.

http://www.succubus.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/The_Succubu_and_The_Beast_by_megaween.jpg

[Nitro Express]

How is Obamacare a "monopoly"?

You are forced to pay money to a private corporation, but not to one single private corporation.

Corporations that are approved by the government and the prices have shot up. It seems to be a racketeering setup more than a monopoly. Corporations colluding with themselves and with the government. If you look at the federal government today it does just the opposite of what it's supposed to do. We don't have a Department of Defense. We have a Department of Offense. We don't have a Justice Department. We have an Injusctice Department. The FDA gives corporations like Monsanto full freedom to put GMO food on the market without the proper testing to make sure it's safe or has any negative affects on the environment. There is a revolving door between contractors and government agencies all across the board. The government is doing a lousy job of protecting us citizens but is doing a gang buster job of protecting corporations and their crooked management.

[jacksmar]

What does any of this jerksmear pro-predatory corporatism rant have to do with corporate welfare anyway?

It's two entirely different discussions. Because even if you are delusional enough to believe that unregulated monopolistic corporations are somehow "good" for the USA, that still doesn't justify taxpayers being forced to subsidize them.


You're so fucking dumb, FORD. Really you are.

You're standing up for a commie lib that doesn't know where his money comes from. Without oil TH wouldn't have made a dime.

Green jobs and green energy have been the biggest money pit since socialists usurped the "environment" mantra.

You don't know what your talking about when you try to connect oil and corporate welfare. Oil pays its own way.

And thanks for the stock checks.

[jacksmar]

As I said, Henry's assembly line procedures revolutionized the auto industry, and other industries took note and followed. His forward thinking on hemp fuels and fiber (as opposed to rotting dinosaur carcasses) might have done likewise. Now this doesn't mean Henry was any kind of saint. He was almost as big of a fan of Adolf Hitler as the BCE, for example.



Somebody needs to kill ALL of the coal mines. As far as fucking hippie females, that can be fun, but I have plenty of succubi here in Hell who meet a Devil's carnal needs.

http://www.succubus.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/The_Succubu_and_The_Beast_by_megaween.jpg




http://www.crazyshit.com/site/pics/images/2011/07/25-naked-hippies-dancing.jpg

Fuck a hippie instead of some bullshit cartoon.

[ELVIS]

You're so fucking dumb, FORD. Really you are.



No he's not...

It's his Utopian, not for profit, socialist agenda that makes him sound dumb...


:biggrin:

[Satan]

No he's not...

It's his Utopian, not for profit, socialist agenda that makes him sound dumb...


:biggrin:

I don't believe FORD has ever said he is for a "socialist utopia", nor against profit, provided it is properly regulated and taxed within reason.

Now of course you mortals are always confusing me with FORD, but here in Hell, we practice what could be best described as a "social demoncratic monarchy". I, the Devil, am the eternal chief executive, of course. The necessary and proper public commons are part of the Infernal Federal Government. This includes emergency services, health care, energy, infrastructure, education, and banking, for example. Everything else - manufacturing, agriculture, sales & service businesses, etc. are all private sector.

It's not a utopia, nor do I clam it as such. It's Hell, after all. But it works. And when your society has to last for eternity, then it damned well better work.

[jacksmar]

FORD, you call me a Tea Party guy constantly. Remember that shit?

That would mean I believe that like bailouts, (Obama) there is no such power is granted to the federal government via the Constitution. So saving corporations from bankruptcy certainly isn't one of the proper functions of government.

You are one of the OWS shitheads that bailed out Wall Street and are still doing so via QE3.

All government subsidies, targeted tax breaks, government-granted monopolies and privileges, and other government intrusions into the marketplace constitute corporate welfare.

Get it?

You might find some forms of corporate welfare to be less offensive than others.

All of them will distort the price system.

I support a free market, not "big business", i e capitalism. When you insert corporate welfare into a free market, you create a system of "crony capitalism", by every fucking politician that is on corporate campaign welfare.

Get it?

[Satan]

FORD, you call me a Tea Party guy constantly. Remember that shit?

Actually, no. And stop calling me FORD.


That would mean I believe that like bailouts, (Obama) there is no such power is granted to the federal government via the Constitution. So saving corporations from bankruptcy certainly isn't one of the proper functions of government.

It was Chimpy who bailed out the banks. He was wrong to do so, but if Obama had done so, he would have been just as wrong. And while SOME of the teabaggers did indeed oppose the bailouts, they also oppose regulations such as the Glass Steagal act, which prevented the banks from the criminal behavior which caused the 2008 crash, for half a century.


You are one of the OWS shitheads that bailed out Wall Street and are still doing so via QE3.

OWS bailed out Wall Street??? That makes about as much sense as saying MLK supported the Klan.


All government subsidies, targeted tax breaks, government-granted monopolies and privileges, and other government intrusions into the marketplace constitute corporate welfare.

Get it?

Look at the 1920s and what that unregulated orgy of predatory capitalism turned into. It was called the Great Depression.

Then look at how that sort of dragonshit didn't happen for another 50 years, until greedy assed cowards began dismantling FDR's reforms which literally saved your country from fascism.


You might find some forms of corporate welfare to be less offensive than others.

All of them will distort the price system.

I support a free market, not "big business", i e capitalism. When you insert corporate welfare into a free market, you create a system of "crony capitalism", by every fucking politician that is on corporate campaign welfare.

Get it?

So you oppose corporate welfare, but you also oppose regulations that prevent predatory monopolies, which you also claim to hate. How then, do you propose that the small business entreprenuers whom you claim to support (and even be one of yourself) compete with the massive multi-national behemoths who dominate damn near every sector of the mortal market on Earth? Do you really believe the Randtard bullshit fairy tales that claim huge corporations who literally believe that they are above all laws of both man and my Former Employer will voluntarily act in the best interests of the American people??

[Seshmeister]

Back on topic.

Products made from oil:

Ammonia
Antifreeze
Antiseptics
Art supplies
Artificial limbs
Aspirin
Astroturf
Awnings
Bandages
Cleaning products
Candles
Carpets
Caulking
Clothing
Crayons
Creams
Cosmetics
Cutlery
Dentures
Dice
Dyes
Electronics
Film
Fishing line
Floor wax
Foam
Glasses
Glue
Glycerin
Guitar strings
Heart valves
Helmets
Ink
Insulation
Lubricants
Medicine
Nail polish
Nylon
Paint
Paint brushes
Panty hose
Petroleum jelly
Plastics
Records
Refrigerant
Roofing
Shampoo
Shaving cream
Shoes
Shower curtains
Skis
Soap
Solvents
Sports equipment
Tires
Toys
Trash bags
Umbrellas
Upholstery
Vitamin capsules

Walk down any grocery aisle and try to find no trace of oil. Even your "organic food" food stores. You can't do it. Go to a hospital. Same deal.


Your list is exactly why we shouldn't be setting fire to it for power, it's far too useful to be wasting it like that.

[jacksmar]

First, you HAVE to stop the campaign contributions Congress receives from corporate interests.

By removing them from office, by force if necessary (federal marshal), make the result outweigh the benefits of taking campaign contributions Congress receives from corporate interest by ending campaign contributions for corporate welfare and bringing some fiscal sanity to our budget.

This is tough. Because everyone in Congress says they oppose “corporate welfare” yet they all seem to practice it faithfully.

Next you take on entitlements. And there ' s really not much more to be said after that.

Why?

Most on the left and some on the right don't understand student aid is corporate welfare.
65 billion.

That's ingrained socialism. That's why there isn't much more to be said after that.

[jacksmar]

Your list is exactly why we shouldn't be setting fire to it for power, it's far too useful to be wasting it like that.

So turn off your stove, refrigerator, give up your cell phone and internet, don't travel to work, don't power your armies, navy, and that last person out of Parliament should shut off the lights.

[jacksmar]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/11/technology/rich-tax-breaks-bolster-video-game-makers.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

At the same time, the I.R.S. and the United States Tax Court have denied the credit for some projects that would have benefited the community as well as the companies receiving it. In 2009, for instance, the federal tax court denied Union Carbide’s attempt to claim a research and development credit for its project to reduce the pollutants released from the smokestacks of a refinery in Louisiana. Union Carbide failed to meet the experimental threshold for the credit, though video game makers often seem to have little trouble meeting the requirement.

[Satan]

Well... let's be fair here.... Video game makers never killed thousands of people, and impacted the long term health of 3/4 of a million people like Union Carbide did in Bhopal. Understandably, they have not proven themselves very trustworthy when it comes to acting responsibly with their pollution.

[jacksmar]

Well... let's be fair here.... Video game makers never killed thousands of people, and impacted the long term health of 3/4 of a million people like Union Carbide did in Bhopal. Understandably, they have not proven themselves very trustworthy when it comes to acting responsibly with their pollution.

Nice dodge. Neither should get a dime, dumbass.