Tom Ridge Admits Terror Alerts Were Bogus

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  • Hardrock69
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Feb 2005
    • 21838

    Tom Ridge Admits Terror Alerts Were Bogus

    As most intelligent Americans have already suspected, the so-called "terror alerts" announced by the Department of Homeland Security during the past several years were completely bogus and were used by the Bush-Cheney Regime as a propaganda ploy to promote the equally bogus "War on Terrorism."

    Former Director of Homeland Security Tom Ridge said that Bush Regime officials forced him to elevate the "threat level" on what he calls "flimsy evidence," reports USA Today.

    Ridge, who introduced the goofy color-coded "terror alert" system in 2002, attempted to rationalize his behavior during a Washington press conference.

    Current US Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff (whose last name means "of the devil" in Russian) is allegedly deciding how quickly to scrap the color code alert system.

    The color alert system has not been changed since December 2003 when it was moved from yellow to orange.
  • Guitar Shark
    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
    • Jan 2004
    • 7576

    #2
    No offense dude, but this article seems a bit one-sided... is there a link?

    I happen to believe the terror alerts were often bogus, btw.
    ROTH ARMY MILITIA


    Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
    Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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    • Hardrock69
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Feb 2005
      • 21838

      #3
      Here is some more to the story....




      US Terror Alerts Were
      Used As Electoral Weapons
      By Chris Bowers
      5-12-5

      Via Parker's diary on the subject. Remember the chart that showed the relationship between Bush's approval rating and terror alters? The chart clearly suggested that terror alerts were used more frequently during times of unpopularity for Bush. Now, new evidence, from Tom Ridge himself, suggests that there was indeed massive outside pressure on the department on homeland to security to often raise the terror alert despite flimsy evidence:

      The Bush administration periodically put the USA on high alert for terrorist attacks even though then-Homeland Security chief Tom Ridge argued there was only flimsy evidence to justify raising the threat level, Ridge now says.

      Ridge, who resigned Feb. 1, said Tuesday that he often disagreed with administration officials who wanted to elevate the threat level to orange, or "high" risk of terrorist attack, but was overruled.

      His comments at a Washington forum describe spirited debates over terrorist intelligence and provide rare insight into the inner workings of the nation's homeland security apparatus.

      Ridge said he wanted to "debunk the myth" that his agency was responsible for repeatedly raising the alert under a color-coded system he unveiled in 2002.

      "More often than not we were the least inclined to raise it," Ridge told reporters. "Sometimes we disagreed with the intelligence assessment. Sometimes we thought even if the intelligence was good, you don't necessarily put the country on (alert). ... There were times when some people were really aggressive about raising it, and we said, 'For that?' "

      Combined with what Ridge has said, and the chart linked above, can there be any doubt that the Bush administration was frequently raising the terror alerts to help his election chances and increase his political capital rather than to signal actual threats? As Parker says, Howard Dean was right. Terror alerts have undoubtedly been used as a electoral weapon rather than as a safety measure. For more on this subject, JuliusBlog.

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      • Hardrock69
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Feb 2005
        • 21838

        #4
        Here is a more specific article from USA Today:

        Ridge Reveals Clashes on Alerts
        By Mimi Hall
        USA Today

        Tuesday 10 May 2005

        Washington - The Bush administration periodically put the USA on high alert for terrorist attacks even though then-Homeland Security chief Tom Ridge argued there was only flimsy evidence to justify raising the threat level, Ridge now says.

        Ridge, who resigned Feb. 1, said Tuesday that he often disagreed with administration officials who wanted to elevate the threat level to orange, or "high" risk of terrorist attack, but was overruled.

        His comments at a Washington forum describe spirited debates over terrorist intelligence and provide rare insight into the inner workings of the nation's homeland security apparatus.

        Ridge said he wanted to "debunk the myth" that his agency was responsible for repeatedly raising the alert under a color-coded system he unveiled in 2002.

        "More often than not we were the least inclined to raise it," Ridge told reporters. "Sometimes we disagreed with the intelligence assessment. Sometimes we thought even if the intelligence was good, you don't necessarily put the country on (alert). ... There were times when some people were really aggressive about raising it, and we said, 'For that?'"

        Revising or scrapping the color-coded alert system is under review by new Homeland Security secretary Michael Chertoff. Department spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said "improvements and adjustments" may be announced within the next few months.

        The threat level was last raised on a nationwide scale in December 2003, to orange from yellow - or "elevated" risk - where the alert level is now. In most cases, Ridge said Homeland Security officials didn't want to raise the level because they knew local governments and businesses would have to spend money putting temporary security upgrades in place.

        "You have to use that tool of communication very sparingly," Ridge said at the forum, which was attended by seven other former department leaders.

        The level is raised if a majority on the President's Homeland Security Advisory Council favors it and President Bush concurs. Among those on the council with Ridge were Attorney General John Ashcroft, FBI chief Robert Mueller, CIA director George Tenet, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Secretary of State Colin Powell.

        Ridge and Ashcroft publicly clashed over how to communicate threat information to the public. But Ridge has never before discussed internal dissention over the threat level.

        The color-coded system was controversial from the start. Polls showed the public found it confusing.

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        • Hardrock69
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Feb 2005
          • 21838

          #5
          They mention that the threat level was last raised in December 2003.

          It was raised based on fabricated evidence:

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          • cjsand76
            Roth Army Recruit
            • Apr 2005
            • 7

            #6
            Tell me Hardrock 69, what is going on here? Can you see it or are you so deluded in your ideology that you cannot see what this is designed to do? Tell me. I'll bet you ain't close.

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 58759

              #7
              Originally posted by cjsand76
              Tell me Hardrock 69, what is going on here? Can you see it or are you so deluded in your ideology that you cannot see what this is designed to do? Tell me. I'll bet you ain't close.
              Deluded in ideology? Considering where you're posting from, that's a hilarious statement buddy.

              Tell Uncle Dick I said Hi. That's assuming he's talking this morning, which may or may not be the case, from what I've heard.

              Now that said, I'll answer your question.

              The terralert system was designed to do one thing and one thing only.

              Keep the American people in a perpetual state of fear and gradually introduce a fascist police state.

              Eat Us And Smile

              Cenk For America 2024!!

              Justice Democrats


              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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              • American Gypsy
                Groupie
                • Apr 2005
                • 69

                #8
                Where are all these terrorists? Where is all the danger? The only
                people who are in danger are our guys half way around the world.
                But it sure is convenient that we have a small amount of citizens that
                are willing, not only to believe, but also to nurture this paranoia.
                Can anyone blieve that after 9/11 in the forseeable future any group
                would believe that they had a functional chance of a successful terrorist attack?

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                • Hardrock69
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 21838

                  #9
                  cjsand76

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                  • Hardrock69
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 21838

                    #10
                    Another pic of cjsand76:

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                    • Warham
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 14589

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FORD
                      Deluded in ideology? Considering where you're posting from, that's a hilarious statement buddy.

                      Tell Uncle Dick I said Hi. That's assuming he's talking this morning, which may or may not be the case, from what I've heard.

                      Now that said, I'll answer your question.

                      The terralert system was designed to do one thing and one thing only.

                      Keep the American people in a perpetual state of fear and gradually introduce a fascist police state.

                      I don't live in a perpetual state of fear, and nobody I know does as well, Democrats and Republicans. I've never talked to ONE person who told me, 'Oh no! They raised the alert this morning! I better not drive down the highway, because some suicide bomber might take me out!'

                      Keep dreamin'.

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                      • FORD
                        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 58759

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Warham
                        I don't live in a perpetual state of fear, and nobody I know does as well, Democrats and Republicans. I've never talked to ONE person who told me, 'Oh no! They raised the alert this morning! I better not drive down the highway, because some suicide bomber might take me out!'

                        Keep dreamin'.
                        Do you believe something called "Al Qaeda" can attack this country at any moment?

                        If so, what do you base that on, since no evidence of their existence, nor involvement in the events of 9-11-01 have actually been produced.

                        If you base that belief simply on the word of the proven liars in the Bush Fraudministration, then how can you deny that you have been conditioned to accept their state of fear?
                        Eat Us And Smile

                        Cenk For America 2024!!

                        Justice Democrats


                        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                        • Warham
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 14589

                          #13
                          Yep, I do believe in terrorist groups like Al Qaeda, but I'm still not going to live in fear if an airplane takes out my condo.

                          Terrorists want people to live in fear, being paranoid, etc. They want people all lathered up.

                          Come on FORD, there's evidence of their existance. I can't believe that's even debatable. Even your left-wing media says they are real. Only those moveon.org wackos might not believe it.

                          People like that are the same ones who believe that Roosevelt and the feds knew Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked ahead of time and did nothing to stop it, so we could get involved in WWII. Alien bodies in Area 51 come to mind as well.

                          Crazy-ass conspiracies.

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                          • FORD
                            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 58759

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Warham
                            Terrorists want people to live in fear, being paranoid, etc. They want people all lathered up.

                            So then, according to what Tom Ridge is now admitting, the BCE are terrorists?

                            Come on FORD, there's evidence of their existance. I can't believe that's even debatable. Even your left-wing media says they are real.

                            The media isn't left wing. And most media outlets "revised versions" of the "official story" contradict with what they broadcasted on 9-11-01 themselves. The documentary "9-11 in plane site" proves this, using their own footage.

                            Only those moveon.org wackos might not believe it.

                            There are a lot of websites, blogs, etc. out there with 9-11 info, and they aren't all "left wing" by any means.

                            People like that are the same ones who believe that Roosevelt and the feds knew Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked ahead of time and did nothing to stop it, so we could get involved in WWII.

                            I've read those theories, and they are very troubling. But not impossible, unfortunately

                            Alien bodies in Area 51 come to mind as well.

                            Crazy-ass conspiracies.
                            They are obviously hiding something at AREA 51, or they wouldn't go to the lengths which they do to conceal the base itself. Whether that something has anything to do with extraterrestrials or not is indeterminable.
                            Eat Us And Smile

                            Cenk For America 2024!!

                            Justice Democrats


                            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                            • Nickdfresh
                              SUPER MODERATOR

                              • Oct 2004
                              • 49136

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Warham
                              Yep, I do believe in terrorist groups like Al Qaeda, but I'm still not going to live in fear if an airplane takes out my condo.

                              Terrorists want people to live in fear, being paranoid, etc. They want people all lathered up.

                              Come on FORD, there's evidence of their existance. I can't believe that's even debatable. Even your left-wing media says they are real. Only those moveon.org wackos might not believe it.

                              People like that are the same ones who believe that Roosevelt and the feds knew Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked ahead of time and did nothing to stop it, so we could get involved in WWII. Alien bodies in Area 51 come to mind as well.

                              Crazy-ass conspiracies.
                              It's not about whether terrorists are real or not, it's about scaring soccer moms into voting for you!

                              Why haven't we had a terra' alert since shortly after the election? Did all of those real terra'ists suddenly disappear?

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