Tom Ridge Admits Terror Alerts Were Bogus

[DLR'sCock]

I posted this story here yesterday...

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=21128

[Warham]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
It's not about whether terrorists are real or not, it's about scaring soccer moms into voting for you!

Why haven't we had a terra' alert since shortly after the election? Did all of those real terra'ists suddenly disappear?

The reason Democrats voted for Bush was because you guys had a sorry candidate up there in John Kerry.

And guess what, it's not any better in '08 for you guys when that 'I didn't know anything about those campaign fund irregularities' Hillary Clinton gets up there to accept her nomination.

Why don't liberals admit the reason they've lost the last two elections is because their candidate wasn't up to snuff instead of rolling out every excuse like FORD does (diebold machines, scaring off blacks in South Florida).

[DLR'sCock]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
It's not about whether terrorists are real or not, it's about scaring soccer moms into voting for you!

Why haven't we had a terra' alert since shortly after the election? Did all of those real terra'ists suddenly disappear?

Ironically enough the last big big, *cough* "scare" was conveniently enough the friday at 5pm announcement from ol' BINNY, as I call him, right before Election Tuesday.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
The reason Democrats voted for Bush was because you guys had a sorry candidate up there in John Kerry.

And guess what, it's not any better in '08 for you guys when that 'I didn't know anything about those campaign fund irregularities' Hillary Clinton gets up there to accept her nomination.

Why don't liberals admit the reason they've lost the last two elections is because their candidate wasn't up to snuff instead of rolling out every excuse like FORD does (diebold machines, scaring off blacks in South Florida).

That's not the issue. The issue is that the guy you voted for is a corrupt liar that uses fear and manipulation!

[Warham]

Yeah, it is the issue. You liberals are blaming terror alerts for losing the election. Put the blame in the right place. The DNC is a good place to start. Howard Dean is ready to take your call.

[Warham]

Yeah, and your party use fear all the time, specifically the last two elections. In 2000, it was 'if Bush is elected, he'll take away your social security', and in 2004 it was 'if Bush is re-elected, there'll be a draft'.

Neither one has taken place.

Your party is the master manipulator of people's emotions to try to get a favorable outcome.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Warham
Yeah, and your party use fear all the time, specifically the last two elections. In 2000, it was 'if Bush is elected, he'll take away your social security', and in 2004 it was 'if Bush is re-elected, there'll be a draft'.

Neither one has taken place.

Should have put a "yet" at the end of that sentence.

Bush is definitely trying to take away Social Security. Fortunately, not even most Senate Republicans are that suicidal, and his plan is failing.

As for the draft, that will come when the BCE invades Iran in June.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
Yeah, and your party use fear all the time, specifically the last two elections. In 2000, it was 'if Bush is elected, he'll take away your social security', and in 2004 it was 'if Bush is re-elected, there'll be a draft'.

Neither one has taken place.

Your party is the master manipulator of people's emotions to try to get a favorable outcome.

Again. If this were Clinton that did this, your panties would be full of shit right now and you know it!

Spin it how you want, but your boys are cowardly fear-mongers that manipulate the masses. If there had been no Sept. 11, Bush would have been laughed out of office in all likelihood. He was (and is) a joke.

Bush can do a thing on Social Security because he has lost a credibility on the issue, not due to lack of effort. And the military is still being ground down in Iraq.

Anyone that knows anything about this stuff will tell you that the All-Volunteer Force is in severe jeopardy to say the least. After all, we're going to be in Iraq for at least ten years, and the violence is in fact getting worse there...

[Warham]

He's not trying to take away social security.

In fact, he's asked Democrats to put their ideas on the table, but all he gets is this.... ::crickets chirping::

I remember in '98, Bill Clinton said that something needed to be done about Social Security, and quickly. Seven years later and the liberals are going 'hold on there, bucko! What's the hurry!'. Why is that? My hunch, and probably the only reason, is that it's because a Republican is in office right now. As soon as Hillary wins in '08, it'll be a crisis to the liberals again.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Warham
He's not trying to take away social security.

In fact, he's asked Democrats to put their ideas on the table, but all he gets is this.... ::crickets chirping::

I remember in '98, Bill Clinton said that something needed to be done about Social Security, and quickly. Seven years later and the liberals are going 'hold on there, bucko! What's the hurry!'. Why is that? My hunch, and probably the only reason, is that it's because a Republican is in office right now. As soon as Hillary wins in '08, it'll be a crisis to the liberals again.

Bill Clinton wanted to improve Social Security. Junior wants to put it in the hands of the next Enron. Big difference.

[Warham]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Again. If this were Clinton that did this, your panties would be full of shit right now and you know it!

Spin it how you want, but your boys are cowardly fear-mongers that manipulate the masses. If there had been no Sept. 11, Bush would have been laughed out of office in all likelihood. He was (and is) a joke.

Bush can do a thing on Social Security because he has lost a credibility on the issue, not due to lack of effort. And the military is still being ground down in Iraq.

Anyone that knows anything about this stuff will tell you that the All-Volunteer Force is in severe jeopardy to say the least. After all, we're going to be in Iraq for at least ten years, and the violence is in fact getting worse there...

The number of casualties we are sustaining is lower than it was last year, Nick.

US Casualites by month:

Sept 2004: 83
Oct 2004: 63
Nov 2004: 137
Dec 2004: 72
Jan 2005: 107
Feb 2005: 58
Mar 2005: 36
April 2005: 52

That doesn't look like it's increasing very much, does it?

In Vietnam we were losing 50 a DAY, not a month.

The reason all these bombers are coming out of the woodwork right now is because they fear that the government is going to become stable, and it will. They are not going to stop it from happening.

Liberals are going to spread the bad news over good news in Iraq because they want Bush to fail over there, and they want America to fail over there.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
The number of casualties we are sustaining is lower than it was last year, Nick.

US Casualites by month:

Sept 2004: 83
Oct 2004: 63
Nov 2004: 137
Dec 2004: 72
Jan 2005: 107
Feb 2005: 58
Mar 2005: 36
April 2005: 52

That doesn't look like it's increasing very much, does it?

In Vietnam we were losing 50 a DAY, not a month.

The reason all these bombers are coming out of the woodwork right now is because they fear that the government is going to become stable, and it will. They are not going to stop it from happening.

Liberals are going to spread the bad news over good news in Iraq because they want Bush to fail over there, and they want America to fail over there.

The Government? Oh man, their already starting to show their true (Shiite) colors! We're not really supporting a government, we're supporting a faction and ethinc group.

And has it really come to, "well, Vietnam was worse..."

Wait 'til May's numbers are in.

I guess the fact that the security situation is markedly decreased by everyone's estimation, and the 400 Iraqis that died this week alone doesn't count, huh?

Bush already HAS failed because he's incompetent. And so is the crew of bastards he brought in! The ones you voted for.

You guys just want to keep sending troops over to die for your bullshit failed PNAC agenda. It's not working. And in the end, I fear there is little to stop a massive sectarian civil war in Iraq (which is what the insurgents really want).

[Nickdfresh]

BTW, North Korea really does have nuclear weapons.

[Warham]

Actually May is on course to be similar to April's numbers.

The fact is, the more terrorists that come over to there to bomb everybody proves it's starting to work.

Bush hasn't failed at anything. You guys can't seem to see very far ahead. Sometimes it takes years and years for something to turn the corner. It ain't happening overnight. It never does.

Yeah, North Korea does, and the Soviet Union does too. I'm sure China has few locked and loaded. What's your point?

[Nickdfresh]

Isn't that the excuse we used as to why we invaded?