John Boehner: NO on Shutdown; YES on Entitlement Reform

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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10620

    John Boehner: NO on Shutdown; YES on Entitlement Reform

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    ABC's Jonathan Karl reports: In a speech to the National Association of Broadcasters Sunday night in Nashville, Speaker of the House John Boehner will address “the moral responsibility” to cut spending, reduce the deficit, avoid a government shutdown and also address spending on entitlements, such as Social Security and Medicare.

    The speech comes just two days after House Republicans have proposed a new spending bill that appeared more likely than the previous bill to garner support from Democrats in the Senate and avoid a government shutdown. The government is set to shut down at the end of Friday March 4 if lawmakers cannot agree on a way to extend federal funding before then.

    The Speaker’s press office has released excerpts of the speech Boehner will deliver tonight. There are two notable things here: 1) Boehner promises the Republican budget for 2012 will “specifically deal with entitlement reform” (something the Republican leadership, so far, has avoided); and, 2) unlike former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who is now saying the 1995/96 shutdown was a good thing, Boehner insists he wants to avoid one.

    “This is very simple: Americans want the government to stay open, and they want it to spend less money,” Boehner will say.

    His entitlement reform promise comes with a whack at the White House: “To not address entitlement programs, as is the case with the budget the president has put forward, would be an economic and moral failure,” Boehner says. “By acting now, we can fulfill the mission of health and retirement security for all Americans without making changes for those in or near retirement. And we can keep the promises we have made to our children.”

    Here are the rest of the excerpts:

    On following the 'will of the people:'

    “We have a moral responsibility to address the problems we face. That means working together to cut spending and rein in government – NOT shutting it down. The House has passed legislation – reflecting the will of the people – that would keep the government running through October while cutting spending. The leader of the United States Senate has refused to allow a vote on this legislation, so the House will pass a shorter-term bill that will also keep the government running while including reasonable spending cuts at the same time. This is very simple: Americans want the government to stay open, and they want it to spend less money. We don’t need to shut down the government to accomplish that. We just need to do what the American people are asking of us.”


    On the economic and moral implications of Washington spending:

    “Now surpassing $14.1 trillion, our national debt is on track to eclipse the size of our entire economy this year. In other words, we’re broke. Broke, going on bankrupt. Just as a bankrupt business has trouble creating jobs, so does a bankrupt country. … Yes, this debt is a mortal threat to our country. It is also a moral threat. It is immoral to bind our children to as leeching and destructive a force as debt. It is immoral to rob our children’s future and make them beholden to China. No society is worthy that treats its children so shabbily.”

    On entitlement spending:

    “Our budget, under the leadership of our Budget Chairman Paul Ryan, will specifically deal with entitlement reform. To not address entitlement programs, as is the case with the budget the president has put forward, would be an economic and moral failure. By acting now, we can fulfill the mission of health and retirement security for all Americans without making changes for those in or near retirement. And we can keep the promises we have made to our children.”

    On Republican efforts in the House to address debt and size of government:


    “We have a moral responsibility to deal with this threat to freedom and liberate our economy from the shackles of debt and unrestrained government. Our new majority in the House began this work by humbling ourselves and finding ways to exercise frugality. We banned earmarks, which had become a symbol of a broken Washington. We replaced rules making it easy to increase spending with reforms making it easier to cut spending. We cut our own budgets by five percent. … Earlier this month, the House approved more than $100 billion in spending cuts compared to what President Obama requested for the current fiscal year. … Next month, we will propose cutting or eliminating wasteful mandatory spending programs. … And we’re fighting to end taxpayer funding for abortion once and for all … we’re working to protect life.”

    On government and internet:

    “Our new majority in the House is committed to using every tool at our disposal to fight a government takeover of the Internet. Congressman Fred Upton of Michigan, the chairman of the Energy and Commerce Committee, has pledged, in his words, to be ‘a dog to the Frisbee on this issue.’ … Congressman Greg Walden of Oregon, a former broadcaster himself, has introduced a congressional resolution of disapproval to reverse the FCC’s net neutrality rules. I’m pleased to report the House will act on this measure as early as next month.”
    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush
  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58754

    #2
    What a twisted sick crybaby Oompa Loompa piece of tobacco industry shilling shit.
    Eat Us And Smile

    Cenk For America 2024!!

    Justice Democrats


    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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    • ELVIS
      Banned
      • Dec 2003
      • 44120

      #3
      What's wrong FORD ??

      Nostalgic for Pelosi ??


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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 58754

        #4
        More like nostalgic for common fucking sense.

        End the wars. Tax the rich. Fuck corporate "citizenship".

        That's the solution. Not this delusional teabagging horseshit.
        Eat Us And Smile

        Cenk For America 2024!!

        Justice Democrats


        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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        • ELVIS
          Banned
          • Dec 2003
          • 44120

          #5
          I agree with ending the wars, but the rich and everyone else are already taxed enough...

          The spending needs to be reeled in...

          Nonsensical and non-essential social programs need to be eliminated...

          Defense spending needs to be cut...

          Unions for government workers need to be eliminated...

          Carbon footprints need to be forgotten about...

          More power for state government - healthcare, job training, economic development, etc...

          Federal pay needs to be frozen until the budget is reeled in...

          Homeland security and NSA should be eliminated for good!

          High speed rail should be forgotten about...

          Eliminate the federal spending on green technology...


          That's just for starters...

          Oh yeah, and eliminate your job, at least so you can see what real work feels like...


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          • Kristy
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 16336

            #6
            Whenever Boehner's name gets mentioned, I can't help but to think of this song.

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 58754

              #7
              Originally posted by ELVIS
              I agree with ending the wars, but the rich and everyone else are already taxed enough...
              Warren Buffett doesn't think so. And he should know, being one of the richest guys on the planet. Even the shitbag who runs Gold Mansacks agrees....

              From The Times
              June 28, 2007
              Buffett blasts system that lets him pay less tax than secretary
              Tom Bawden in New York

              Warren Buffett, the third-richest man in the world, has criticized the US tax system for allowing him to pay a lower rate than his secretary and his cleaner.

              Speaking at a $4,600-a-seat fundraiser in New York for Senator Hillary Clinton, Mr Buffett, who is worth an estimated $52 billion (£26 billion), said: “The 400 of us [here] pay a lower part of our income in taxes than our receptionists do, or our cleaning ladies, for that matter. If you’re in the luckiest 1 per cent of humanity, you owe it to the rest of humanity to think about the other 99 per cent.”

              Mr Buffett said that he was taxed at 17.7 per cent on the $46 million he made last year, without trying to avoid paying higher taxes, while his secretary, who earned $60,000, was taxed at 30 per cent. Mr Buffett told his audience, which included John Mack, the chairman of Morgan Stanley, and Alan Patricof, the founder of the US branch of Apax Partners, that US government policy had accentuated a disparity of wealth that hurt the economy by stifling opportunity and motivation.

              The comments are among the most significant yet in a debate raging on both sides of the Atlantic about growing income inequality and how the super-wealthy are taxed.

              They echo those made this month by Nicholas Ferguson, one of the leading figures in Britain’s private equity industry, when he criticized tax rates that left its multimillionaire venture capitalists “paying less tax than a cleaning lady”.

              Last week senior members of the US Senate proposed to increase the rate of tax that private equity and hedge fund staff pay on their share of the profits, known as carried interest, from the 15 per cent capital gains rate to about 35 per cent.

              Lloyd Blankfein, the chief executive of Goldman Sachs, acknowledged in an interview yesterday that there were justified concerns about the huge profits generated by private equity firms and that he worried that income inequality was “poisoning democracy”. He also said that he would be voting for the Democrat candidate at the next election. Mr Blankfein is the highest-paid executive on Wall Street, earning $54 million last year.

              Mr Buffett, who runs the investment group Berkshire Hathaway and is widely regarded as the world’s most successful investor, said that he was a Democrat because Republicans are more likely to think: “I’m making $80 million a year – God must have intended me to have a lower tax rate.”

              Mr Buffett said that a Republican proposal to eliminate elements of inheritance tax, which raises about $30 billion a year from the assets of about 12,000 rich families, would broaden the disparity between rich and poor. He added that the Republicans would seek to recover lost revenue by increasing taxes for the less prosperous.

              He said: “You could take that $30 billion and give $1,000 to 30 million poor families. Or should you favour the 12,000 estates and make 30 million families pay an extra $1,000?”

              http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/mon...cle1996735.ece

              Originally posted by ELVIS
              The spending needs to be reeled in...

              Nonsensical and non-essential social programs need to be eliminated...
              And who gets to define what that means? You? John Boner? The KKKoch Brothers??

              Originally posted by ELVIS
              Defense spending needs to be cut...

              Unions for government workers need to be eliminated...
              Bullshit. Unions are the last defense against predatory corporatism and teabagging lunacy.

              Originally posted by ELVIS
              Carbon footprints need to be forgotten about...

              High speed rail should be forgotten about...

              Eliminate the federal spending on green technology...
              Right.... because who the fuck needs a planet you can actually live on? Or the living wage jobs which could be created by upgrading this nation's infrastructure to the 21st fucking century.

              Originally posted by ELVIS
              More power for state government - healthcare, job training, economic development, etc...

              Federal pay needs to be frozen until the budget is reeled in...
              The irony of this mentality is that the "red states" where the majority of teabaggers live are taking in far more Federal dollars than they are contributing in tax revenue. Be careful what you wish for.

              Originally posted by ELVIS
              Homeland security and NSA should be eliminated for good!
              No argument there. Also abolish the CIA, which never had a legitimate purpose from the day Prescott Bush and his buddies founded it.

              Originally posted by ELVIS
              That's just for starters...

              Oh yeah, and eliminate your job, at least so you can see what real work feels like...

              How "Christian" of you, Gregory
              Eat Us And Smile

              Cenk For America 2024!!

              Justice Democrats


              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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              • ELVIS
                Banned
                • Dec 2003
                • 44120

                #8
                Tell my why a government employee needs a union...

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                • FORD
                  ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 58754

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ELVIS
                  Tell my why a government employee needs a union...
                  To protect them from pieces of shit like Hosni Walker, John Closet Kasich, etc.
                  Eat Us And Smile

                  Cenk For America 2024!!

                  Justice Democrats


                  "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                  • ELVIS
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 44120

                    #10
                    To protect what, their disproportionate wages and benefits compared to the private sector who pay the government wages ??

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                    • twonabomber
                      formerly F A T
                      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 11189

                      #11
                      i don't think it's a coincidence that "Kasich" rhymes with "prick."

                      not that i'm necessarily against teachers and other public employees picking up more of their benefit costs. i have to, why shouldn't they?
                      Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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                      • ELVIS
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 44120

                        #12
                        They should, period!

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                        • Nitro Express
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 32794

                          #13
                          I really wouldn't give a shit if the US Federal Government shut down. I don't really get anything out of it. All it would mean is I wouldn't have to bother filing my taxes this year, I could get into Grand Teton and Yellowstone Park for free and drive a snowmobile through there like we used to do in the good old days. I think the biggest tragedy is nobody would be paid to pump the shit out of the US Forrest Service ran campground toilets.
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                          • Nitro Express
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 32794

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ELVIS
                            Tell my why a government employee needs a union...
                            They don't. They should have the right to strike. My problem with the right to work laws is they make striking illegal. You don't need a union to strike, you just need to have enough employees who agree to do it. I really don't think there are any good unions anymore. I belonged to two of them out of necessity and never got anything out of it other than less money for me.
                            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32794

                              #15
                              One area the government could spend money and get it back long-term would be fixing and improving the infrastructure. The best thing the government did in the 1930's was build dams and bridges. We couldn't support the population we have in the west without them.

                              What I would do is give everyone on welfare a notice that they will be drafted into a national work program if they stay on welfare. If you are disabled and can't work you are exempt and can continue to get government assistance but if you can work you will be given proficiency tests and skills test to see what jobs you can do. This would at least give us some productive use for that welfare money and avoid the riots that would happen by just cutting people off.

                              I mean Hitler put people to work building cars and roads. People were digging through the trash looking for something to eat and Hitler put them to work and that ended. The problem was he started a war and that ruined everything. If Hitler didn't start the war and didn't do evil things to people Germany could have been successful. It's the Henry Ford model. You put people to work and you pay them enough to buy the products they make. You give them educational opportunities. Ford employees could take night classes to advance their learning. It worked.

                              Wars suck money and kill people and only the war profiteers and bankers win on that type of system. The problem with the US is after WWII we became such a huge war economy, it was decided in the 1960's we had to keep wars going to keep the economy going. We outsourced most our consumer goods manufacturing. We have gone onto the Soviet model but instead of a communist party running things, it's a collusion of corporations and government agencies. Our main industry is oil, war, and banking.

                              The best thing government can do is build the infrastructure that allows the free market to operate and level the playing field when it becomes unfair. Once you have that, if you have hard working, educated people, they will build the economy.
                              Last edited by Nitro Express; 02-28-2011, 04:44 AM.
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