Fifty percent of Americans believe in some conspiracy theory. Here’s why.

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  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35157

    #31
    Originally posted by Kristy
    No one hates Apple more than me. Their overzealous and overpriced products made from slave labor I'll never buy. However...

    (and this is a big however)

    I inherited Apple stock from my Aunt from when she died last September. I will eventually sell although my last quarterly dividends were @$6,000. This is how one suddenly becomes a capitalist pig.
    In other words at the first possible opportunity.

    What a sell out you are.

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    • ELVIS
      Banned
      • Dec 2003
      • 44120

      #32
      It never dawned on shitforface before that capitalist pigs made money...

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      • ELVIS
        Banned
        • Dec 2003
        • 44120

        #33
        Originally posted by Kristy
        This is how one suddenly becomes a capitalist pig.



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        • DONNIEP
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Mar 2004
          • 13373

          #34
          Originally posted by Kristy
          I inherited Apple stock from my Aunt from when she died last September. I will eventually sell although my last quarterly dividends were @$6,000. This is how one suddenly becomes a capitalist pig.
          That's not how you become a capitalist pig. This is how you do it...

          American by birth. Southern by the grace of God.

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          • Kristy
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 16336

            #35
            Originally posted by Seshmeister
            What a sell out you are.
            You know you should really watch what you say to me. If I didn't pay taxes on those dividends then who would be paying for Trollvis' welfare check? Then where would your life be? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

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            • ELVIS
              Banned
              • Dec 2003
              • 44120

              #36
              You're a total dumb ass...

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              • Seshmeister
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Oct 2003
                • 35157

                #37
                Originally posted by Kristy
                You know you should really watch what you say to me. If I didn't pay taxes on those dividends then who would be paying for Trollvis' welfare check? Then where would your life be? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
                I think they used the money for drone fuel.

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                • ELVIS
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 44120

                  #38
                  And funding ISIS...

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                  • jacksmar
                    Full Member Status

                    • Feb 2004
                    • 3533

                    #39
                    Both Kennedy and Oswald slept with Elanor Roosevelt.

                    Both Lincoln and Booth slept with Susan B Anthony.

                    Both Kennedy and Lincoln had huge Johnsons.
                    A NATION OF COWARDS - Jeffrey R. Snyder

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                    • kwame k
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 11302

                      #40
                      Yep and Obama and his Muslim brotherhood are going to overthrow our government and install Obama as dictator! That's why he's taking all our guns
                      Originally posted by vandeleur
                      E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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                      • Kristy
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 16336

                        #41
                        I have ZERO respect, interest, and care for Obama anymore. Dude is a walking train wreck that constantly derails.

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                        • Seshmeister
                          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                          • Oct 2003
                          • 35157

                          #42
                          He's working his ass off for you and your type.

                          Many business groups are unhappy about President Obama's corporate tax reform proposal, but Apple Inc. isn't likely to complain.


                          Why Apple Investors Should Thank President Obama
                          By Adam Levine-Weinberg

                          February 8, 2015

                          U.S. corporations have been begging for corporate tax reform for years. Under the current system, companies are hit with a repatriation tax of up to 35% when they bring money earned internationally back to the U.S. As a result, many U.S. firms -- led by Apple (NASDAQ: AAPL ) -- have collectively stashed $2 trillion outside the country to avoid this tax hit.

                          President Obama recently proposed a solution that would immediately levy a 14% tax on U.S. corporations' overseas cash and then charge a 19% tax on future overseas earnings. This could leave Apple with a tax bill of up to $22 billion on its foreign cash holdings. But this proposal would be far better for Apple shareholders than the status quo. Read on to find out why.

                          Cash piling up offshore
                          In the past few years, Apple has become the biggest holder of offshore cash. Meanwhile, it has aggressively spent its U.S. cash on dividends and share buybacks, even borrowing tens of billions of dollars to avoid repatriating any of its foreign cash and triggering a tax liability.

                          As of late December, Apple had $157.8 billion of cash held offshore, compared to just $20 billion in the U.S. This is making it increasingly hard for Apple to return cash to shareholders. There are practical limits on how much debt Apple can issue to fund buybacks, even if that debt is matched dollar for dollar with overseas cash.

                          Enter President Obama's corporate tax proposal
                          President Obama has proposed a major change to corporate tax law in order to encourage companies to bring home their overseas cash without losing out on lots of tax revenue.

                          First, his proposal calls for a 14% tax on overseas cash that U.S. corporations have already earned. Unlike previous voluntary "tax holidays" that only applied to cash that corporations wanted to repatriate, President Obama's proposed tax would be mandatory -- it would apply to all overseas cash held by U.S. corporations.

                          Second, Obama's proposal would institute a 19% tax rate on all income earned overseas by U.S. corporations going forward. (Companies would get credits for taxes paid abroad in this scheme.) Third, the standard corporate tax rate in the U.S. would be reduced from 35% to 28%.

                          This proposal would be great for Apple
                          Based on Apple's $157.8 billion foreign cash horde, a 14% tax would hit the company with a $22 billion bill. In practice, Apple might owe substantially less than that amount, since it has already paid tax on some of its foreign income.

                          But even if Apple had to pay the full $22 billion to satisfy its tax obligations on its overseas cash, President Obama's proposal would still be great for shareholders. After paying $22 billion, Apple would be left with about $136 billion that it could repatriate and use to support further increases in its capital return program.

                          With that amount of money, Apple could buy back nearly 20% of its 5.8 billion outstanding shares. This would dramatically increase the company's long-term EPS.

                          Additionally, the proposed 28% domestic corporate tax rate and 19% international tax rate would reduce Apple's long-term tax burden. In recent years, Apple has recognized an effective tax rate of about 26%.

                          With nearly 65% of Apple's earnings coming from overseas, its federal tax rate under the proposed system would be about 22% before the benefit of the R&D tax credit. Assuming that state and local corporate taxes roughly offset the R&D credit, Apple's overall tax rate might drop by 4 percentage points -- boosting its net income by $2.5 billion or more.

                          Furthermore, since there would no longer be an incentive to stash its cash overseas, it would be easier in the future for Apple to return its free cash flow to shareholders in the form of dividends and buybacks.

                          An alternative plan
                          President Obama's proposal isn't the only corporate tax reform plan making the rounds on Capitol Hill. Senators Rand Paul and Barbara Boxer recently proposed a voluntary repatriation tax holiday that would offer an even lower 6.5% tax rate.

                          This might seem more enticing than President Obama's proposal -- and for some companies, that might be true. However, the Paul-Boxer bill includes restrictions on how the repatriated cash can be used. Depending on how the bill is interpreted, this could significantly limit its benefits for Apple.

                          The key terms of the Paul-Boxer bill are that a portion of the cash repatriated must be used for increased spending on things like employee pay, R&D, CapEx, and acquisitions. Additionally, the repatriated cash cannot be used to support increased executive compensation, dividends, or buybacks.

                          This is potentially problematic for Apple. The company could probably find productive ways to invest several billion dollars a year in incremental R&D, CapEx, and/or acquisitions. Indeed, the company has been steadily increasing its R&D spending by more than 30% annually.

                          However, Apple has more than $150 billion in offshore cash. That's almost certainly more than Apple could invest at a reasonable rate of return. The best use for most of that cash would be returning it to shareholders through dividends or buybacks.

                          It's unclear how much leeway would be permitted under the Paul-Boxer bill for shareholder returns. Apple spent more than $55 billion in FY14 on dividends and buybacks. If it was allowed to continue spending that amount each year, the Paul-Boxer bill would not be much of an imposition.

                          On the other hand, if the bill would prevent Apple from using any of its foreign cash for future buybacks, then it wouldn't be nearly as helpful as President Obama's proposal.

                          The biggest risk is deadlock
                          While President Obama's corporate tax reform proposal would be great for Apple, plenty of other companies are unhappy about it. As Tim Cook noted in 2013, Apple is unusual among U.S. corporations in that it isn't lobbying for zero taxes on foreign earnings.

                          Thus, the biggest risk for Apple may be that the latest effort at corporate tax reform gets caught up in Washington gridlock like previous attempts. Plenty of people on both sides of the aisle oppose solutions like President Obama's proposal. Liberals argue that it's corporate welfare. Conservatives argue that taxing foreign income will just chase corporations out of the U.S.

                          The truth is that it's an imperfect solution to a difficult problem. But a proposal that would make the country's largest holder of untaxed overseas cash happy to cough up $22 billion to Uncle Sam just might be the best compromise available.


                          Adam Levine-Weinberg is long January 2016 $80 calls on Apple and short January 2016 $120 calls on Apple. The Motley Fool recommends Apple. The Motley Fool owns shares of Apple. Try any of our Foolish newsletter services free for 30 days. We Fools may not all hold the same opinions, but we all believe that considering a diverse range of insights makes us better investors. The Motley Fool has a disclosure policy.

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                          • DONNIEP
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 13373

                            #43
                            Ugh...too many words...
                            American by birth. Southern by the grace of God.

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                            • FORD
                              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                              • Jan 2004
                              • 58754

                              #44
                              What pisses me off about Barry is that he's now standing up to this Kochsucking Kowardly Kongress like he should have been doing since January 2009.

                              It's great that he vetoed the Keystone Death Pipe, that his FCC finally landed on the sane side of Net Neutrality, and that he seems to suddenly think that corporations should pay taxes, but that doesn't undo the damage that has already been done, that he allowed to happen. And he STILL seems to be in favor of the Southern Hemisphere and Asian Free Trade Agreement (SHAFTA) - formerly known as the Trans Pacific Partnership. Even though this disaster would pretty much undo his veto of Kochstone AND net neutrality, as soon as any corporation made the case to do so, under SHAFTA's corporations over national sovereignty provisions.
                              Eat Us And Smile

                              Cenk For America 2024!!

                              Justice Democrats


                              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                              • Seshmeister
                                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                                • Oct 2003
                                • 35157

                                #45



                                Facebook conspiracy theorists fooled by even the most obvious anti-science trolling: study




                                Anti-science conspiracy theorists are so credulous they can’t determine when they’re being purposefully duped, according to a new study.

                                A team of Italian and American researchers tested the social media biases feeding belief in conspiracy theories such as chemtrails, shape-shifting reptilian overlords, and the Illuminati, reported Motherboard.

                                The researchers found that adherents to conspiracy theories are highly receptive to claims that support their views and rarely engage with social media pages that question their beliefs.


                                The ongoing measles outbreak linked to unvaccinated children has exposed one danger posed by hostility toward science, which is promoted in large part through social media.

                                The World Economic Forum last year identified “digital misinformation” alongside terrorism, cyber attacks, and global governmental failure as threats to modern society.

                                Social media allows this misinformation to be transmitted and amplified as users gather around shared beliefs, interests, and worldviews – whether or not factual evidence supports those belief systems.

                                The researchers examined social media patterns for 1.2 million Facebook users and found that nearly 92 percent of those who engage with Italian conspiracy theory pages interact almost exclusively with conspiracy theory pages.

                                The study also found that conspiracy theory posts are much more likely to be shared and liked by Facebook users.

                                The researchers then tested the strength of these users’ biases by posting “troll information” – or sarcastic comments parodying anti-science views – on Facebook.

                                “These posts are clearly unsubstantiated claims, like the undisclosed news that infinite energy has been finally discovered, or that a new lamp made of actinides (e.g. plutonium and uranium) might solve problems of energy gathering with less impact on the environment, or that the chemical analysis revealed that chemtrails contains sildenafil citratum (the active ingredient of Viagra),” the researchers said.

                                They found that 78 percent of those who “liked” these 4,709 troll posts interacted primarily with conspiracy theory pages, as were 81 percent of those who commented on them.

                                The researchers also noted that anti-conspiracy theorists often wasted “cognitive resources” pushing back against these unscientific “troll” claims, even when they were “satirical imitation of false claims.”

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