WOW! I'm following this one!

[DrMaddVibe]

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42112

[Flash Bastard]

Interesting.

[Little_Skittles]

wow another version of the "truth" what next?

[Carmine]

That was obvious from the beginning. Its about time someone told the truth!

[DrMaddVibe]

Gives a new meaning to "Let's Roll" and the tape recorded messages that the famlies were allowed to listen to.

[FORD]

Liars eventually slip up. Rummy's no exception.

[ODShowtime]

I know we shot that plane down, but in this context it looks like a simple misstatement.

He said "they" shot down the plane. "They" in this case would really be "us" if Rummy was speaking any bit of truth. "They" made us shoot down the plane, but "they" certainly did not shoot the plane down themselves.

The fact that so many people don't believe him and are willing to call him on this is a tremendous indictment of Rumsfeld. He's finished. Or at least in a reality-based administration he would be.

[Big Train]

Its really a statement of how many people WANT to believe this to be true, instead of the horrific facts that are the truth. If it was Rummy and friends, it seems more actionable than some remote terrorists who are now dead. Let's drag a body, SOME body, through the street..

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by Big Train
Its really a statement of how many people WANT to believe this to be true, instead of the horrific facts that are the truth. If it was Rummy and friends, it seems more actionable than some remote terrorists who are now dead. Let's drag a body, SOME body, through the street..

Train, no sensible person would be upset at the Gov't for downing flight 93. Lying about it? That's completely different.

Answer me this, what does it say about Rumsfeld when people are jumping all over this?

[Big Train]

If they thought the government downed as part of the conspiracy, YES, they would be quite upset about it.

What does it say about people I say. We are in a war and I think people are more comfortable jumping all over a government type than having any hostility towards muslims perputrating these crimes.

[knuckleboner]

what a waste of an article. talk about trying to make something out of nothing. it was CLEARLY a misstatement.


there's NO evidence the plane got shot down. and what's more, it would've only BENEFITED the government to be able to have claimed that it was able to react in time for 1 of the 4 planes.

it's current assertion is that it was caught off guard for all 4.



almost certainly what happened was the passengers DID hear that other planes were crashed into buildings. knowning their alternative was death, they rushed the cockpit. without strong cockpit doors, the 4 hijackers couldn't keep them out, and had no bombs, no guns, only boxcutters as weapons. not enough. so, either the hijackers lost control of the plane and it went into a dive, or, knowing they would lose to the passengers, they did the dive intentionally. why? because prior to 9/11, merely crashing 1 passenger plane with 40+ people onboard into an empty field and killing them all, would've been the 2nd largest terrorist attack in U.S. history.

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by Big Train
If they thought the government downed as part of the conspiracy, YES, they would be quite upset about it.

What does it say about people I say. We are in a war and I think people are more comfortable jumping all over a government type than having any hostility towards muslims perputrating these crimes.

The gov't could have shot it down and lied and the only conspiracy was that they lied about shooting it down. They did shoot it down and did lie about it.

And believe me, I've seen PLENTY of hostility towards muslims and arabs since 9-11.

[Big Train]

The people attacking rumsfeld are liberal PC types mostly (and YES, I know about the generals). They would rather feel hatred towards a white man than a muslim. Helps with their superiority complex.

Flight 93 was NOT shot down, nor is there conclusive evidence to prove such a claim.

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by Big Train
Flight 93 was NOT shot down, nor is there conclusive evidence to prove such a claim.

What evidence is there to prove it wasn't shot down that hasn't passed through the gov't's hands?

[Big Train]

OD,

We have been up and down this road SEVERAL times. The experts all agree it wasn't shot down, only various amateurs seem to disagree.