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  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58755

    U.S. Report Finds No Evidence of Iraq WMD!!

    U.S. Report Finds No Evidence of Iraq WMD

    By KEN GUGGENHEIM, Associated Press Writer

    WASHINGTON - Contradicting the main argument for a war that has cost more than 1,000 American lives, the top U.S. arms inspector reported Wednesday that he found no evidence that Iraq produced any weapons of mass destruction after 1991. He also concluded that Saddam Hussein's weapons capability weakened during a dozen years of U.N. sanctions before the U.S. invasion last year.

    Contrary to prewar statements by President Bush and top administration officials, Saddam did not have chemical and biological stockpiles when the war began and his nuclear capabilities were deteriorating, not advancing, according to the report by Charles Duelfer, head of the Iraq Survey Group.

    Duelfer's findings come less than four weeks before an election in which Bush's handling of Iraq has become the central issue. Democratic candidate John Kerry has seized on comments this week by the former U.S. administrator in Iraq, Paul Bremer, that the United States didn't have enough troops in Iraq to prevent a breakdown in security after Saddam was toppled.

    The inspector's report could boost Kerry's contention that Bush rushed to war based on faulty intelligence and that sanctions and U.N. weapons inspectors should have been given more time.

    But Duelfer also supports Bush's argument that Saddam remained a threat. Interviews with the toppled leader and other former Iraqi officials made clear to inspectors that Saddam had not lost his ambition to pursue weapons of mass destruction and hoped to revive his weapons program if U.N. sanctions were lifted, the report said.

    "There was a risk, a real risk, that Saddam Hussein would pass weapons or materials or information to terrorist networks," Bush said in a campaign speech in Wilkes Barre, Pa., defending the decision to invade. "In the world after Sept. 11, that was a risk we could not afford to take."

    But a top Democrat in Congress, Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan, said Duelfer's findings undercut the two main arguments for war: that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and that he would share them with terrorists like al-Qaida.

    "We did not go to war because Saddam had future intentions to obtain weapons of mass destruction," Levin said.

    Traveling in Africa, British Prime Minister Tony Blair said Wednesday that the report shows that Saddam was "doing his best" to get around the United Nations' sanctions. For months, Blair has been trying to defend his justification for joining the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in the face of heavy criticism from some in his own party.

    Duelfer presented his findings in a report of more than 1,000 pages, and in appearances before Senate committees.

    The report avoids direct comparisons with prewar claims by the Bush administration on Iraq's weapons systems. But Duelfer largely reinforces the conclusions of his predecessor, David Kay, who said in January, "We were almost all wrong" on Saddam's weapons programs. The White House did not endorse Kay's findings then, noting that Duelfer's team was continuing to search for weapons.

    Duelfer found that Saddam, hoping to end U.N. sanctions, gradually began ending prohibited weapons programs starting in 1991. But as Iraq started receiving money through the U.N. oil-for-food program in the late 1990s, and as enforcement of the sanctions weakened, Saddam was able to take steps to rebuild his military, such as acquiring parts for missile systems.

    However, the erosion of sanctions stopped after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, Duelfer found, preventing Saddam from pursuing weapons of mass destruction.

    Duelfer's team found no written plans by Saddam's regime to pursue banned weapons if U.N. sanctions were lifted. Instead, the inspectors based their findings that Saddam hoped to reconstitute his programs on interviews with Saddam after his capture, as well as talks with other top Iraqi officials.

    The inspectors found Saddam was particularly concerned about the threat posed by Iran, the country's enemy in a 1980-88 war. Saddam said he would meet Iran's threat by any means necessary, which Duelfer understood to mean weapons of mass destruction.

    Saddam believed the use of chemical weapons against Iran prevented Iraq's defeat in that war. He also was prepared to use such weapons in 1991 if the U.S.-led coalition had tried to topple him in the 1991 Persian Gulf War.

    White House spokesman Scott McClellan said Tuesday that Saddam "had the intent and capability" to build weapons of mass destruction, and that he was "a gathering threat that needed to be taken seriously, that it was a matter of time before he was going to begin pursuing those weapons of mass destruction."

    But before the war, the Bush administration cast Saddam as an immediate threat, not a gathering threat who would begin pursuing weapons in the future.

    For example, Bush said in October 2002 that "Saddam Hussein still has chemical and biological weapons and is increasing his capabilities to make more." Bush also said then, "The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program."

    Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill., said Wednesday that Duelfer's findings showed there is "no evidence whatsoever of the threats we were warned about." He spoke after Duelfer gave a closed-door briefing to the Senate Intelligence Committee.

    Committee Chairman Pat Roberts, R-Kan., said Duelfer showed Iraq's ability to produce weapons of mass destruction had degraded since 1998. But Roberts called the report inconclusive on what happened to weapons stockpiles Saddam is believed to have once possessed.

    Interviews with Saddam left Duelfer's team with the impression that Saddam was more concerned about Iran and Israel as enemies than he was about the United States. Saddam appeared to hold out hope that U.S. leaders would ultimately recognize that it was in the country's interest to deal with Iraq as an important, secular, oil-rich Middle Eastern nation, the report found.

    The Iraq Survey Group will continue operations and may prepare smaller reports on issues that remain unresolved, including whether weapons had been smuggled out of Iraq and about intelligence that Saddam had mobile biological weapons labs.

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  • ODShowtime
    ROCKSTAR

    • Jun 2004
    • 5812

    #2
    Man I was just gonna post this. Explain away folks.
    gnaw on it

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    • Mezro
      Full Member Status

      • May 2004
      • 4127

      #3
      Just heard this on NPR. Where did the WMD's go?

      Mezro...Oh, that's right, he used them all up on the Kurds...
      Got me a date with a shaved Asian. I know, I know; I think it's fucked!

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      • Warham
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Mar 2004
        • 14587

        #4
        'Committee Chairman Pat Roberts, R-Kan., said Duelfer showed Iraq's ability to produce weapons of mass destruction had degraded since 1998. But Roberts called the report inconclusive on what happened to weapons stockpiles Saddam is believed to have once possessed.'

        An interesting comment, no doubt. What did happen to those stockpiles?

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        • Warham
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Mar 2004
          • 14587

          #5
          Originally posted by ODShowtime
          Man I was just gonna post this. Explain away folks.
          This one will be easier to explain than Kerry's Senate record.

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          • diamondD
            Veteran
            • Jan 2004
            • 1962

            #6
            John Kerry believed the same intelligence.
            Meet us in the future, not the pasture

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 58755

              #7
              Originally posted by diamondD
              John Kerry believed the same intelligence.
              Not exactly.....

              Both houses of congress routinely see more intelligence than the average American, but the executive branch, particularly the BCE, with lifelong ties to the intelligence agencies themselves - had additional sources that Congress never saw.

              Some of these "sources" like Chalabi, for example, and the PNAC reports, never had an ounce of credibility to begin with, and were only advancing their own agendas. Other intelligence was ridiculously out of date, like the reports of alleged WMD facilities that the British plagarized from a college term paper written in 1991.
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              • Big Train
                Full Member Status

                • Apr 2004
                • 4011

                #8
                How many times are we gonna go through this?

                First off, chemical weapons can be made quickly and easily. So easily in fact, there were several mobile weapons labs in Iraq (remains of a few flatbed labs have been found), which Iraqi scientists themselves have come forward to say is true. Iraq is a sandbox the size of Texas. Because this guy didn't find anything does not mean that there were none to begin with. In a sandbox that size, he could have buried them anywhere. Or another likely theory, he shipped them over the border.

                Given the time frame which we announced that we would be coming, to the time we set up, to the time we rolled the country, there was PLENTY of time for him to ship or dispose whatever he had. I believe in time we will find them.

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                • Mezro
                  Full Member Status

                  • May 2004
                  • 4127

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Big Train
                  I believe in time we will find them.
                  The only WMD they'll find is Dick Cheney's ass.

                  Mezro..."come on kids; squeeze my tummy and I'll make mustard gas!"...
                  Got me a date with a shaved Asian. I know, I know; I think it's fucked!

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                  • Big Train
                    Full Member Status

                    • Apr 2004
                    • 4011

                    #10
                    Let's just hope we don't discover them in tragic circumstances..such as citizens discovering it in their drinking water

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                    • FORD
                      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 58755

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Big Train
                      Let's just hope we don't discover them in tragic circumstances..such as citizens discovering it in their drinking water
                      Citizens where??

                      If anything turns up in the water here, it won't be from the Iraqis. Just like that Anthrax, which conveniently took out the tabloid publisher who printed this now infamous picture of the Bushettes....



                      .....which was determined to come directly from a DOD laboratory.
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                      • JCOOK

                        #12
                        How long have the voices been talking to you Ford?

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                        • ODShowtime
                          ROCKSTAR

                          • Jun 2004
                          • 5812

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Big Train
                          Let's just hope we don't discover them in tragic circumstances..such as citizens discovering it in their drinking water
                          Train, I used to be scared of this, but it takes a SHITLOAD of chemicals to contaminate a water supply to hazardous levels. Like numerous dumptruck loads.
                          gnaw on it

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                          • DLR'sCock
                            Crazy Ass Mofo
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 2937

                            #14
                            Maybe the repukes need Ronald Reagan to come back from the dead and tell them that there were no WMD's when we invaded Iraq??? Would they believe it then???? I mean he's dead Right???? He might know???? Huh????I bet he talks to God all of the time....right???
                            But is he comes back from the dead, does that make Reagan Jesus???

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                            • Warham
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 14587

                              #15
                              I kinda like that pic.

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