U.S. Report Finds No Evidence of Iraq WMD!!

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Originally posted by Sgt Schultz
This is bad news for Bush. Bush based the ENTIRE rationale for invading Iraq and toppling Saddam Husein on WMDs. The fact that they are now not there means Bush lied and there was no reason to invade. We made a mistake toppling Saddam Husein and waging an illegal war against him.

No, don't forget he also said that Saddam had ties to Al Qeada and insinuated that he had a hand in 9-11.

[Sgt Schultz]

Originally posted by ODShowtime
No, don't forget he also said that Saddam had ties to Al Qeada and insinuated that he had a hand in 9-11.

That's right, Saddam had absolutely NO ties to al Qeada - or any other terrorist organizations. The 9/11 commission confirms thisright?. I'm sure all of us have read this report and unanimous, bi-partisan Senate intelligence committe findings too, right? He also did not fund any Palestinian suicide bombers. And let's all remember how explicitly George Bush said that Saddam Hussein was responsible for the 9/11 attacks - we all remember that!

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Originally posted by Sgt Schultz
And let's all remember how explicitly George Bush said that Saddam Hussein was responsible for the 9/11 attacks - we all remember that!

No, don't forget he also said that Saddam had ties to Al Qeada and insinuated that he had a hand in 9-11.

No one's arguing that he hadn't funded families of Palestinian suicide bombers.

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What are you getting at? It doesn't matter that bush&friends lied and misled the public?

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Originally posted by ODShowtime
What are you getting at? It doesn't matter that bush&friends lied and misled the public?

America attacked, 3,000 dead, 1 trillion dollars lost as result - Bush didn't connect the dots! Bush was asleep at the wheel!! Harrumph harrumph!!

Intelligence services of the U.S., Britain, France and others say dangerous middle east dictator, already responsible for 1,000,000+ deaths and known producer and USER of WMDs is again producing them, CIA director says that case of WMDs in Iraq a "slam dunk", you topple aforementioned dictator and liverate 25+ million. Yet, no WMDs YET found - Bush lied!! Harrumph harrumph!!

Can't have it both ways people. Just admit it, it's all about defeating Bush. Whatever Bush did or didn't do = wrong.

[Sgt Schultz]

Here is what is also in the report the Democrats are so gleeful about..................


Duelfer: Saddam Kept Nuke Program in Place

Press coverage of the report to Congress by Iraq Survey Group (ISG) chief Charles Duelfer yesterday has focused on what the U.S. didn't find in Iraq during it's 18-month search for weapons of mass destruction.

Paraphrasing Duelfer's report, for instance, the New York Times states categorically: "[Saddam] Hussein ended his nuclear program in 1991 and there was no evidence he tried to restart it."

But that's only part of the story as far as Saddam's nuclear ambitions went.

While Duelfer says he found no evidence of a "concerted effort" by Saddam to press ahead with his nuclear program after 1991, his report makes it clear that the program itself was was never abandoned.

In fact, what Duelfer actually says is that Saddam's nuclear program was on hold - in a state of suspended animation - with scientists, nuclear equipment and raw materials standing by awaiting the green light from the Iraqi dictator.

Here are a few quotes taken directly from Duelfer's findings that didn't make it into coverage by the Times, Washington Post and other big media outlets.

"Saddam aspired to develop a nuclear capability - in an incremental fashion, irrespective of international pressure and the resulting economic risks. ..."

"Baghdad undertook a variety of measures to conceal key elements of its nuclear program from successive UN inspectors, including specific direction by Saddam Husayn [Duelfer's spelling] to hide and preserve documentation associated with Iraq’s nuclear program."

"[The Iraq Survey Group], for example, uncovered two specific instances in which scientists involved in uranium enrichment kept documents and technology. Although apparently acting on their own, they did so with the belief and anticipation of resuming uranium enrichment efforts in the future."

"Starting around 1992, in a bid to retain the intellectual core of the former weapons program, Baghdad transferred many nuclear scientists to related jobs in the Military Industrial Commission (MIC). The work undertaken by these scientists at the MIC helped them maintain their weapons knowledge base."

"Initially, Saddam chose to conceal his nuclear program in its entirety, as he did with Iraq’s BW program. Aggressive UN inspections after Desert Storm forced Saddam to admit the existence of the program and destroy or surrender components of the program."

More quotes from the Duelfer report:

"Saddam did express his intent to retain the intellectual capital developed during the Iraqi Nuclear Program. Senior Iraqis - several of them from the Regime’s inner circle - told ISG they assumed Saddam would restart a nuclear program once UN sanctions ended."

"As funding for the MIC and the [Iraq Atomic Energy Commission, or IAEC] increased after the introduction of the Oil-for-Food program, there was some growth in programs that involved former nuclear weapons scientists and engineers."

"The Regime prevented scientists from the former nuclear weapons program from leaving either their jobs or Iraq. Moreover, in the late 1990s, personnel from both MIC and the IAEC received significant pay raises in a bid to retain them, and the Regime undertook new investments in university research in a bid to ensure that Iraq retained technical knowledge."
In his preliminary report to Congress just seven months ago, Duelfer went into detail about some of Saddam's suspected nuclear equipment:


"In the nuclear arena, the ISG has developed information that suggests Iraqi interest in preserving and expanding the knowledge needed to design and develop nuclear weapons. One significant effort illustrating this was a high-speed rail gun program under the direction of two senior scientists associated with Iraq’s pre-1991 nuclear weapons program."

"Documents found outside [one] laboratory described a high-voltage switch that can be used to detonate a nuclear weapon, laser detonation, nuclear fusion, radiation measurement, and radiation safety."

"It is this combination of topics that makes us suspect this lab was intentionally focused on research applicable for nuclear weapons development," Duelfer concluded.

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Originally posted by Sgt Schultz
Can't have it both ways people. Just admit it, it's all about defeating Bush. Whatever Bush did or didn't do = wrong.

Schultz, Bush made some terrible decisions and many people have paid the price. Validating theses decisions by re-electing him will only make it worse. He didn't listen to his advisors when he should have.

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Originally posted by ODShowtime
Schultz, Bush made some terrible decisions and many people have paid the price. Validating theses decisions by re-electing him will only make it worse. He didn't listen to his advisors when he should have.

So which advisors should he have listend to and which should he have ignored?

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Originally posted by Sgt Schultz
So which advisors should he have listend to and which should he have ignored?

Good question. My statement comes from reading numerous articles. I'll try to get back to you on this.

[Sgt Schultz]

Saddam threat 'greater than feared' Oct 6 2004

A key report on Saddam Hussein's weapons shows he was an even greater threat than previously thought, Foreign Secretary Jack Straw has said.

The group hunting for the dictator's weapons of mass destruction is expected to announce it has found no evidence of chemical, biological or nuclear weapons.

But Mr Straw said the Iraq Survey Group report proves "in terms of his intention", Saddam was an "even starker" threat than thought.

Mr Straw said Saddam would have built up WMDs if he had not been ousted from power.

Speaking on a trip to Baghdad, he said: "I personally am in no doubt whatever that had we walked away from Iraq and left Iraq to Saddam, Saddam would have indeed built up his capabilities, built up his strength and posed an even greater threat to the people of Iraq and the people of the region than before."

The head of the ISG, Charles Duelfer, will set out his findings in his final report to the US Senate tonight.

He is expected to say Saddam did not have WMD at the time of the US-led invasion.

The failure to find WMD will be particularly damaging to the Prime Minister because of his reliance on them as the justification for going to war.

He has already accepted that intelligence suggesting Saddam had WMD was wrong, and he has taken full responsibility for any mistakes in British intelligence.

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