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  • Firebrand
    Roadie
    • Jun 2004
    • 103

    EVH - Visionary

    I've played guitar professionally or semipro for the last 25 years, and I can say without any hesitation or doubt that EVH is THE sole "visionary" rock guitarist of the last 30 years - without question.

    His tone, style, attitude, you name it, it shaped what guitar playing was from 1980 until Cobain and the grunge idiots ruined rock guitar, which was about 1993 or so. It was completely unique and unprecedented. Hardly anyone has ever had that kind of run - not Page, not Clapton. The only exception is perhaps Hendrix, who, while his influence is undeniable, just died too soon before his potential was realized (which is scary).

    You ask a regular music fan who Satriani is, or Vai, or Malmsteen, and they'll look at you like you just asked them to explain molecular fission. You ask them who Eddie Van Halen is...ahhh, there's another story.

    Those guys are great players, mind you, but they aren't visionaries. EVH was.

    Key word there - was. He ain't what he used to be, I believe with all my heart that if DLR could be thrown back in the mix, we might see some of that magic rediscovered. DLR brings out the edge in Eddie. Just listen to Me Wise Magic. Nuff said.

    I think Stevie Ray was a total powerhouse that changed a lot of players, including me, about as much as anyone. Randy Rhodes was coming on, but again, died before his potential was realized. Page, Iommi, Nuge, Frank Marino (yes, a total badass), Joe Perry, Lynch, Tom Scholz, the list could go on and on of those who were influential on rock guitarists in the Golden Age of the 70's and 80's.

    But visionary? To this guitarist with more miles on him than most here, Hendrix and Eddie are the only two deserving of that honorary title.
    With a rebel yell, she cries "more more more!"...
  • DLRdelight!
    Veteran
    • Jul 2004
    • 1501

    #2
    Very well said, Eddie is King

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    • CVHfan
      Roadie
      • Nov 2004
      • 184

      #3
      He was king in his day. God, his playing ruled the world from 1978-1984. He was incredible.

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      • spanishfly48
        Full On Cocktard
        • May 2004
        • 38

        #4
        maybe it only cuz im in high school, but ask a kid who eddie van halen is and they'll look at ya crazy too. however aska teacher or janitor or anyone over 25 generally and they know.
        Confuscius Say: man who go through airport door sideways goin to Bangkok

        "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." President George W. Bush


        Your about as useful as a Poopy flavored Lolly pop

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        • tjvhou812
          Full Member Status

          • Mar 2004
          • 4216

          #5
          eddie is....

          the best there is

          the best there was

          and

          the best there ever will be
          Originally posted by RIKK

          Now, tj was indeed a major cunt. Indeed, he probably still is.

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          • katie
            Crazy Ass Mofo
            • Nov 2004
            • 3072

            #6
            He may be ?have been the best there is /was
            But, If you aint got the THE songs then it's all for nothing.
            And from 1986 onwards VH did NOT have the songs!

            OH BTW - Sammy may be a singer in VH - But DLR is THE singer in VH!

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            • light 'em up!
              Foot Soldier
              • Mar 2004
              • 686

              #7
              Re: EVH - Visionary

              Originally posted by Firebrand
              You ask a regular music fan who Satriani is, or Vai, or Malmsteen, and they'll look at you like you just asked them to explain molecular fission. You ask them who Eddie Van Halen is...ahhh, there's another story.

              Those guys are great players, mind you, but they aren't visionaries. EVH was.
              What you're really trying to say is that EVH is one of the 'famous' vsionary guitar players of the last 30 years.


              All of those guys you mentioned are visionaries in their own right. Ed was one of the all time rock greats, but you're mostly full of shit.

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              • light 'em up!
                Foot Soldier
                • Mar 2004
                • 686

                #8
                Originally posted by tjvhou812
                eddie is....

                the best there is

                the best there was

                and

                the best there ever will be
                ha ha ha.

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                • ELVIS
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 44120

                  #9
                  Edward a visionary ??

                  Nah...

                  Guitar players generally are not "visionaries"...

                  Jimi Hendrix ?? Absolutely. Besides his guitar playing skills, he basically came up with an entirely new type of music, and had the flash to complete the package...

                  I see Dave more as the "Visionary" in the Van Halen legacy...

                  No Dave, no vision...


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                  • rustoffa
                    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 8959

                    #10
                    EVH is probably my favorite guitarist of all times.

                    I believe he was probably the last "innovator" ......Hendrix before him.

                    You can make arguments about Robert Fripp, Roy Clark, blah fucking blah.

                    There's just too many styles and the subject is subjective.

                    The term "visionary" is best left to describing strip mall contractors or some shit.

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                    • ELVIS
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 44120

                      #11
                      No, Yngwie was the last innovator...

                      Michael Angelo is quite interesting also...

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                      • DavidLeeNatra
                        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 10714

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ELVIS
                        Edward a visionary ??

                        Nah...

                        Guitar players generally are not "visionaries"...

                        Jimi Hendrix ?? Absolutely. Besides his guitar playing skills, he basically came up with an entirely new type of music, and had the flash to complete the package...

                        I see Dave more as the "Visionary" in the Van Halen legacy...

                        No Dave, no vision...


                        amen...dave was the vision and used ed as his medium...
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                        First official owner of ADKOT (Deluxe Version)

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                        • DavidLeeNatra
                          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 10714

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ELVIS
                          No, Yngwie was the last innovator...

                          Michael Angelo is quite interesting also...
                          I know you love Yngwie but I can't agree...he didn't innovate he just went further on ways others went before...
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                          First official owner of ADKOT (Deluxe Version)

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                          • Denny
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 423

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ELVIS
                            No, Yngwie was the last innovator...

                            Michael Angelo is quite interesting also...
                            Yeap, Yngwie is the last Innovator.........

                            I might be wrong about this but I think he was the first player to do Sweep Picking.

                            SWEEP PICKING IS THE FUCKING BEST!!!!!

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                            • rustoffa
                              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 8959

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ELVIS
                              No, Yngwie was the last innovator...

                              Michael Angelo is quite interesting also...
                              Copernicus!

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