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  • Sarge
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Feb 2003
    • 5422

    Leaving Van Halen

    David Lee Roth Crazy From The Heat autobiography
    I did what I did with Van Halen in good faith and I left on good faith and I asked for no quarter. I asked for no settlement, nothing. And I guess that’s precisely what I got. I should have led with my fist instead of my heart, but that would have put me right down in the bottom of the barrel with the kind of thinking that I’m railing against now.

    I’m very proud of what was that band and what was that show and what it did mean to people. It disgusts me that it has turned into the complete opposite. That it now represents everything that I spoke against, that we supposedly represented the converse of. I don’t want to have to remember that the team turned into that. Makes me question what the team was while I was a member.

    Was it all bullshit? If nothing else, it confirms in my mind that from my standpoint—yours truly, David Lee—not a fraction. If nothing else, this kind of morbid, wounded animal anger aimed my way has caused me to look deep into that bathroom mirror and come back to you with "my shit was legit." It was for real. And perhaps the test is time. Because here I am, a decade and a half later, haven’t changed much. I look a little different, but not much. My sense of humor is about the same.

    When I left Van Halen, it was not something that I was delighted to do. I was not celebrating. I was not relieved. It was one of the scariest moments in my life. I perceived that Van Halen was heading towards catastrophe. So do you ride that plane all the way into the sand? I said no, we’d already been through a year’s worth of the Hatfields and the McCoys with the bottle of moonshine in between—and I’m not a prince. I am not Mr. Not Guilty at all, but the chemistry between us was becoming morbid, it was becoming threatening and nonproductive. You can hear it in the music, it started turning melancholy right after I left. That’s great, there’s plenty of room for melancholy music, but it’s not my personal constitution.

    Ed and I hugged each other and cried at my father’s house. I said, "Ed, your brother is up to two six-packs a day. Maybe if we get ourselves square, down the line we can reconvene, and I would love nothing more than that." I don’t think he understood. We went our own ways.

    Some six months later, perhaps less, somebody deposited a stack of magazines as long as your forearm on my desk, full of all the new Van Halen interviews. It had been easier for them to put a new album together because I had worked with Edward on half of that album already. Brought in a new singer, went right to all those old tapes and started with that as their go point, so it was much easier for them to reconstruct. It was going to take me a considerable while longer. So that first stack of magazines landed in front of me, and it was a Van Halen hatred campaign that was peddled belligerently and strongly as it is to this day. This had been a spectacular group, spectacular writing unit and a sensational show, and if you got anywheres near any element of it, it changed your life.

    And here we currently reside thirteen years later, same mudslinging, same kind of thinking from their camp. So I guess the most critical decision I have to make is, do I really describe some of their carryings on, on the road’? Or do I continue to be the quiet guy? Do I continue to be the nice guy? Ninety-nine percent of all the hijinks and carrying on was my contribution, but everybody had a proclivity. Everybody had a little side-bar to their story.

    It’s unfortunate that this feuding has to continue all the way up until the present, because what Van Halen meant to a lot of people and myself in particular, was very positive. What it meant in the early days—read:

    The time period that I was involved in the band—is hanging in there like an Indian summer. It’s still all over the radio, still in the magazines, people still ask questions about the breakup.

    I guess the best I can say is: Don’t believe every syllable of everything that you read by everybody who wrote it. Go out and buy those records and see if you can hear the truth in the music. That’s my recommendation. Some of those records you may have to buy twice—just in case you want your best pal to listen in too so you can discuss it some more. Dolemite, motherfucker!

    Copyright ©1997 David Lee Roth Crazy From The Heat.
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  • Big Troubles
    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
    • Feb 2004
    • 8512

    #2
    So Gospel isn't? The man- David Lee!
    "FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKIN' BITCH! WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ANYWAYS? TALK TO ME LIKE THAT? FUCK YOU. DRAG QUEEN LOOKIN' WHORE- YOU AINT SHIT. YOUR THE FRECKLE TO THE LEFT OF MY BROWN EYE. NOW GO MAKE YOURSELF USEFUL...OH, PUT DAD ON THE PHONE"

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    • DavidLeeNatra
      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
      • Jan 2004
      • 10703

      #3
      this book is always near my bed...and very often I open it and read through some chapters...this made me pick it up right now and I read the "reunion blues"-chapter again...and I believe every word dave says about it (remember that quote? ed:"at least...dave never lied")

      to read with how much respect dave still talks about his days back in the band and the fucking brothers after all the hatred they broght to him...this man has more class than they will EVER have (sam, you are included)...but it leaves some kind of bitter taste and melancholy because it is so sad what happened to the legacy of the biggest fun and party and big rock band this planet has seen...yes, I know...all this has been said a thousand times before...but what do we have left from these fuckers...
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      • Sarge
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Feb 2003
        • 5422

        #4
        it's the bible.. for modern day heathens..
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        The Diamond David Lee Roth Army

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        • Sweet Irony
          She's the Woman
          Sniper
          • Jan 2004
          • 870

          #5
          Well, that would be all of us....



          That IS a good book, no reason everyone here shouldnt have a copy!
          ...livin in the online VH world for 19 years....thanks to a 2 year old.....

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          • Big Troubles
            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
            • Feb 2004
            • 8512

            #6
            Cheap plug for Dave's book. Dave would be proud. Buy it here



            if you like it, tell a friend. If you don't like it, tell him too, 'cause dave will still be here!
            "FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKIN' BITCH! WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ANYWAYS? TALK TO ME LIKE THAT? FUCK YOU. DRAG QUEEN LOOKIN' WHORE- YOU AINT SHIT. YOUR THE FRECKLE TO THE LEFT OF MY BROWN EYE. NOW GO MAKE YOURSELF USEFUL...OH, PUT DAD ON THE PHONE"

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            • MikeVanHln

              #7
              Great story Sarge. It's one of those that make you say Hmmmmm, wow, that's a great fucking story and that's how things really were huh? Dave is without a doubt, the best of the best and his stories prove it.

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              • Hecubus
                Foot Soldier
                • Jan 2004
                • 575

                #8
                It's really a cryin' shame that things deteriorated the way they did...

                Fame will do that I guess.
                "Honey, my shirt got itself torn up. My shirt tore itself on that stripper's hand, and I need it to be sewed up for the show."
                "No problem, Dave, no problem. Say hello to Fluffy."
                "Fuck you, Fluffy."
                "No, no, you're going to upset Fluffy."
                "I ain't saying hello to no stuffed bear."
                "You know, now that I think about it, it's going to take a little longer to sew up that shirt than I was thinking."
                "Hi Fluffy, how you been?"
                "Now that I'm thinking of it even more, it's going to take half the time, Double D, Diamond Dave! Would you hold Fluffy?"
                "N--- yeah."

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                • Flash Bastard

                  #9
                  Sarge, can you post more material from the book? I haven't been lucky enough to find a copy.

                  eBay blows.

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                  • Panamark
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 17113

                    #10
                    Thats a good read. The part that confuses me though is when Dave says "Ed, your brother is up to two six-packs a day. Maybe if we get ourselves square, down the line we can reconvene, and I would love nothing more than that."

                    Now, Ive always thought Van Halen were all massive consumers of drugs and alcohol. It seems strange that these bad boys would call out Alex for two six packs a day ??

                    Anyone else find this strange ? Could it be around 85, Ed wasnt a huge alcoholic ?? I would have thought Ed would be on two six packs for breakfast, back in those times. Seems strange that Dave would say this to Ed.
                    BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
                    Love ya Mary Frances!

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                    • DavidLeeNatra
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 10703

                      #11
                      well, two six-packs is something like four liters of beer every (!!!) day...I'm sure they all were heavy consumers at that time but it depends on how strong you are to know when to stop...two six-packs for a party? no problem but every day? I dunno...

                      dave once quoted that the lying dutchmen have been to the betty ford hospital several times...so they weren't able to control it on their own...but dave also called them weaklings or triple weaklings so I don't wonder about that...
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                      • Mr Grimsdale
                        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 8905

                        #12
                        i thank you for those comments as much as if you had just cut off both my feet!
                        by gods face i swear i shall never eat bread again until you desist from such innuendo!
                        Originally posted by flappo
                        i'm sure grimsdale's on drugs

                        Originally posted by Cato
                        translating your Japanese.


                        "Master Cato is...I order, it's yours. don't ask me to do gay material for the life of me because you kick my bat."

                        omae baka dana?

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                        • Panamark
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 17113

                          #13
                          A fool that takes you for an idiot's no drongo.
                          BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
                          Love ya Mary Frances!

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                          • Panamark
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 17113

                            #14
                            Two six packs ? thats kinda wussy for a Rockstar.
                            Maybe Dave was concerned that he wasnt drinking enough ?
                            BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
                            Love ya Mary Frances!

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                            • Big Troubles
                              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 8512

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Flash Bastard
                              Sarge, can you post more material from the book? I haven't been lucky enough to find a copy.

                              eBay blows.
                              "FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKIN' BITCH! WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ANYWAYS? TALK TO ME LIKE THAT? FUCK YOU. DRAG QUEEN LOOKIN' WHORE- YOU AINT SHIT. YOUR THE FRECKLE TO THE LEFT OF MY BROWN EYE. NOW GO MAKE YOURSELF USEFUL...OH, PUT DAD ON THE PHONE"

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