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  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49205

    [size=3][b]BUSH Flamed On DOWNING STREET MEMO[/b][/size]

    Democratic forum focuses on 'Downing Street memo'

    Thursday, June 16, 2005 Posted: 3:31 PM EDT (1931 GMT)


    Bush and Blair, ain't they a pair?
    On June 7, President Bush said there was no decision made in 2002 to go to war with Iraq.

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Some congressional Democrats, brandishing a document known as the "Downing Street memo," are insisting that the White House provide more information about what led to the decision to go to war in Iraq.

    Rep. John Conyers, D-Michigan, and other Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee were conducting a public forum Thursday afternoon, prompted by documents that have surfaced from inside the British government about pre-war planning.

    The Downing Street memo says the Bush administration believed that war was inevitable and was determined to use intelligence about weapons of mass destruction to justify the ouster of Saddam.

    The "intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy," says the memo, recounting a July 23, 2002 meeting of Prime Minister Tony Blair and his national security team. The meeting took place just after British officials returned from Washington.

    U.S. officials and Blair deny the assertion about intelligence and facts being "fixed," a comment that the memo attributes to the chief of British intelligence at the time. The meeting took place eight months before the invasion of Iraq.

    Conyers pointed to past statements by Bush in the run-up to invasion that war would be a last resort. "The veracity of those statements has -- to put it mildly -- come into question," he said.

    The London Sunday Times disclosed the contents of the memo May 1.

    Bush should respond to questions raised by the Downing Street memo, says a letter signed by Conyers and over 90 other members of Congress, as well as a half-million Americans.

    White House press secretary Scott McClellan dismissed the memo on Thursday and indicated that no one in the White House plans to respond to the letter.

    "This is simply rehashing old debates that have already been discussed," he said.

    The Sunday Times also reported on an eight-page briefing paper prepared for Blair which concludes that the U.S. military has given "little thought" to the aftermath of a war in Iraq.

    The briefing paper of July 21, 2002 says that a postwar occupation of Iraq could lead to a protracted and costly nation-building exercise and that "as already made clear, the U.S. military plans are virtually silent on this point. Washington could look to us to share a disproportionate share of the burden."



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  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35198

    #2
    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
    [B]

    "This is simply rehashing old debates that have already been discussed," he said.
    Yet first time around they were just rumors and thus deniable.

    You prove it and then they say "Hey we've already discussed this".

    Fuck politicians and the people too dumb to put them on the spot.

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49205

      #3
      Originally posted by Seshmeister
      Yet first time around they were just rumors and thus deniable.

      You prove it and then they say "Hey we've already discussed this".

      Fuck politicians and the people too dumb to put them on the spot.
      I have a feeling this isn't going to go away so easily....

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      • LoungeMachine
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Jul 2004
        • 32576

        #4
        Of course even mentioning the DSM will evoke one of two Neo Con reflexes.....

        ...."you're just giving comfort to the insurgents by talking about this.....you're aiding the enemy and you HATE America....."

        or

        ....." you and your tin foil beanie comrades and your conspiracy theories.......next you'll be accusing us of selling arms to Iran in exchange for hastages......."


        It never ends.
        Originally posted by Kristy
        Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
        Originally posted by cadaverdog
        I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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        • LoungeMachine
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Jul 2004
          • 32576

          #5
          hostages, not hastages.

          fuck if I know what a hastage is, unless you're from Boston
          Originally posted by Kristy
          Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
          Originally posted by cadaverdog
          I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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          • LoungeMachine
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Jul 2004
            • 32576

            #6
            Originally posted by Nickdfresh
            I have a feeling this isn't going to go away so easily....
            I remember thinking the same thing about.......


            Florida
            The Pentagon
            Powell to the UN
            Bush against Homeland Security
            Bush against 9/11 Commission
            Anthrax sent to Senators
            Valerie Plame outing
            Abu Grahib
            Rummy and "the Army you want"
            Fake journalists
            GannonGate
            Ohio


            and so on, and so on........
            Originally posted by Kristy
            Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
            Originally posted by cadaverdog
            I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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            • Nickdfresh
              SUPER MODERATOR

              • Oct 2004
              • 49205

              #7
              Originally posted by LoungeMachine
              I remember thinking the same thing about.......


              Florida
              The Pentagon
              Powell to the UN
              Bush against Homeland Security
              Bush against 9/11 Commission
              Anthrax sent to Senators
              Valerie Plame outing
              Abu Grahib
              Rummy and "the Army you want"
              Fake journalists
              GannonGate
              Ohio


              and so on, and so on........
              Yeah, but BUSH is more vunerable at this point...

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              • FORD
                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                • Jan 2004
                • 58789

                #8
                Making Junior a Lame Duck is half accomplished already.

                He's always been Lame
                Eat Us And Smile

                Cenk For America 2024!!

                Justice Democrats


                "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                • LoungeMachine
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 32576

                  #9
                  MI SI N ACCOMPLI HED
                  S O S
                  Originally posted by Kristy
                  Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                  Originally posted by cadaverdog
                  I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                  • Hardrock69
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 21888

                    #10
                    This is yet another instance where the Bush Administration has been caught in a lie.

                    They CONTINUALLY lie to the American public about everything, and have done so since the very beginning. Just like every other fucking president before them......

                    I am amazed at the number of sheeple in this nation....

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                    • Nickdfresh
                      SUPER MODERATOR

                      • Oct 2004
                      • 49205

                      #11
                      Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                      MI SI N ACCOMPLI HED
                      S O S
                      But he never actually said that...

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                      • LoungeMachine
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 32576

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                        But he never actually said that...
                        And he HAD to fly a jet onto the USS Lincoln at the last minute beacuse they were too far out, yet they had time to stencil his name on the jet

                        But he DID say "major combat operation in Iraq are over"

                        that way 1,600 American lives ago
                        Originally posted by Kristy
                        Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                        Originally posted by cadaverdog
                        I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                        • Seshmeister
                          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                          • Oct 2003
                          • 35198

                          #13
                          Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                          I remember thinking the same thing about.......


                          Florida
                          The Pentagon
                          Powell to the UN
                          Bush against Homeland Security
                          Bush against 9/11 Commission
                          Anthrax sent to Senators
                          Valerie Plame outing
                          Abu Grahib
                          Rummy and "the Army you want"
                          Fake journalists
                          GannonGate
                          Ohio


                          and so on, and so on........

                          Whatever happened to the Anthrax mail packages?

                          As I remember they traced it as being from a government lab and then suddenly nothing. It stopped being sent and they never caught anyone?

                          Or did I miss a story?

                          Cheers!

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                          • Keeyth
                            Crazy Ass Mofo
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 3010

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Seshmeister
                            Whatever happened to the Anthrax mail packages?

                            As I remember they traced it as being from a government lab and then suddenly nothing. It stopped being sent and they never caught anyone?

                            Or did I miss a story?

                            Cheers!

                            Yeah, they found it matched EXACTLY to the strands being developed by the government at CAL Berkeley... ...strands which the government quickly had destroyed following the mailings, even though they had been being developed there for 15 years, all of a sudden they had to be destroyed immediately. Very strange timing.
                            Knowing and believing are two very different things.

                            It is the difference between the knowledge we accrue... ...and the knowledge we apply.

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                            • FORD
                              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                              • Jan 2004
                              • 58789

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Seshmeister
                              Whatever happened to the Anthrax mail packages?

                              As I remember they traced it as being from a government lab and then suddenly nothing. It stopped being sent and they never caught anyone?

                              Or did I miss a story?

                              Cheers!

                              Nope. They stopped investigation pretty much when somebody pointed out the oddity that the only people who recieved the anthrax surprises were Democratic senators, allegedly "liberal" media types, and the tabloid publisher who printed this picture of Jenna & Tonic....


                              ...They had to stop investigating because it looked as though the "terraists" were taking sides.
                              Eat Us And Smile

                              Cenk For America 2024!!

                              Justice Democrats


                              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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