Obama To Hunt Terrorists In Off-Limits Pakistan!

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49205

    Obama To Hunt Terrorists In Off-Limits Pakistan!

    Obama Says He Might Send Troops Into Pakistan to Hunt Down Terrorists

    08-01-2007 9:46 AM
    By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer

    WASHINGTON (Associated Press) -- Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Wednesday that he would send troops into Pakistan to hunt down terrorists even without local permission if warranted _ an attempt to show strength when his chief rival has described his foreign policy skills as naive.

    The Illinois senator warned Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf that he must do more to shut down terrorist operations in his country and evict foreign fighters under an Obama presidency, or Pakistan will risk a U.S. troop invasion and losing hundreds of millions of dollars in U.S. military aid.

    "Let me make this clear," Obama said in a speech prepared for delivery at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars. "There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qaida leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will."

    The excerpts were provided by the Obama campaign in advance of the speech.

    Obama's speech comes the week after his rivalry with New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton erupted into a public fight over their diplomatic intentions.

    Obama said he would be willing to meet leaders of rogue states like Cuba, North Korea and Iran without conditions, an idea that Clinton criticized as irresponsible and naive. Obama responded by using the same words to describe Clinton's vote to authorize the Iraq war and called her "Bush-Cheney lite."

    Thousands of Taliban fighters are based in Pakistan's vast and jagged mountains, where they can pass into Afghanistan, train for suicide operations and find refuge from local tribesmen. Intelligence experts warn that al-Qaida could be rebuilding here to mount another attack on the United States.

    Musharraf has been a key ally of Washington in fighting terrorism since the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, but has faced accusations from some quarters in Pakistan of being too closely tied to America.

    The Bush administration has supported Musharraf and stressed the need to cooperate with Pakistan, but lately administration officials have suggested the possibility of military strikes to deal with al-Qaida and its leader, Osama bin Laden.

    Analysts say an invasion could risk destabilizing Pakistan, breeding more militancy and undermining Musharraf. The Pakistani Foreign Office, protective of its national sovereignty, has warned that U.S. military action would violate international law and be deeply resented.

    A military invasion could be risky, given Pakistan's hostile terrain and the suspicion of its warrior-minded tribesmen against uninvited outsiders.

    Congress passed legislation Friday that would tie aid from the United States to Islamabad's efforts to stop al-Qaida and the Taliban from operating in its territory. President Bush has yet to sign it.

    Obama's speech was a condemnation of President Bush's leadership in the war on terror. He said the focus on Iraq has left Americans in more danger than before Sept. 11, and that Bush has misrepresented the enemy as Iraqis who are fighting a civil war instead of the terrorists responsible for the attacks six years ago.

    "He confuses our mission," Obama said, then he spread responsibility to lawmakers like Clinton who voted for the invasion. "By refusing to end the war in Iraq, President Bush is giving the terrorists what they really want, and what the Congress voted to give them in 2002: a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences."

    Obama said that as commander in chief he would remove troops from Iraq and putting them "on the right battlefield in Afghanistan and Pakistan." He said he would send at least two more brigades to Afghanistan and increase nonmilitary aid to the country by $1 billion.

    He also said he would create a three-year, $5 billion program to share intelligence with allies worldwide to take out terrorist networks from Indonesia to Africa.

    ___

    On the Net:

    As President Obama has said, the change we seek will take longer than one term or one presidency. Real change—big change—takes many years and requires each generation to embrace the obligations and opportunities that come with the title of Citizen.


    Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
  • steve
    Sniper
    • Feb 2004
    • 841

    #2
    We can't even police our own border and we damand that Pakistan police its better??

    This makes me question Obama. Seems like pandering to the "the Taliban are in Afghanistan" argument. While there was logic to that several years ago and we should have never invaded Iraq, now this is largely irrelevant. The ideology of violent anti-Americanism is everywhere in the Islamic world - especially in Indonesia. What we are now fighting is a global distrust of America, a distrust that is focused in Wahibbist Islam, becoming largely prevalent in general Muslim thought, and shockingly prevalent in global circles regardless of ideology.

    Sending American troops into Pakistan would ONLY result in a super-sized version of Iraq, and fan the flames further.

    Comment

    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 58789

      #3
      Obama, don't try to out-pander Hillary, for fucks sake.

      The unfortunate reality of Pakistan is that we have to be careful about what we do over there, because if we fuck that up like Iraq or Afghanistan, then actual nuclear weapons will end up in the wrong hands.

      (as opposed to the ones that never existed in Iraq, and the ones that won't exist in Iran for years)
      Eat Us And Smile

      Cenk For America 2024!!

      Justice Democrats


      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

      Comment

      • Nickdfresh
        SUPER MODERATOR

        • Oct 2004
        • 49205

        #4
        Originally posted by steve
        We can't even police our own border and we damand that Pakistan police its better??

        ...
        Sending American troops into Pakistan would ONLY result in a super-sized version of Iraq, and fan the flames further.
        "The pattern is equally stark among Muslims in Bangladesh and Indonesia, where support for suicide bombing as a tactic in defense of Islam is down by at least half," Pew said.
        While you make a good point about Pakistan's great difficulties controlling it's Afghan bordering tribal areas, there is also significant aid provided to the Taliban, and potentially al Qaeda, by the renegades of the ISI intelligence service. Under these circumstances, limited special operations forays, but NOT major infantry operations, would be well justified..

        And the Indonesians have mellowed for various reasons...



        "The pattern is equally stark among Muslims in Bangladesh and Indonesia, where support for suicide bombing as a tactic in defense of Islam is down by at least half," Pew said.
        Last edited by Nickdfresh; 08-01-2007, 01:19 PM.

        Comment

        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 58789

          #5
          Originally posted by Nickdfresh
          Actually the Indonesians have stepped back a bit...
          Probably after we saved their asses after the tsunami?
          Eat Us And Smile

          Cenk For America 2024!!

          Justice Democrats


          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

          Comment

          • Nickdfresh
            SUPER MODERATOR

            • Oct 2004
            • 49205

            #6
            Originally posted by FORD
            Probably after we saved their asses after the tsunami?
            Probably. And probably also they're beginning to realize that far more Muslims are being killed in the jihad than are the "infidels."

            Comment

            • hideyoursheep
              ROTH ARMY ELITE
              • Jan 2007
              • 6351

              #7
              Originally posted by FORD
              The unfortunate reality of Pakistan is that we have to be careful about what we do over there, because if we fuck that up like Iraq or Afghanistan, then actual nuclear weapons will end up in the wrong hands.
              That could very well happen without our involvement in NW Pakistan. Think of how Pakistan is handling the area now, with kid gloves, as not to provoke the tribes up there who support them.

              Comment

              • ELVIS
                Banned
                • Dec 2003
                • 44120

                #8
                The united states has to make a decision to either kick the terrorists asses or not, under any administration...

                Because if not, the troops need to come home by the end of next week...

                It's time to stop playing games with these people. They're a ferocious enemy who want to die for their cause...

                I say, let's send 'em to 72 virginland early...


                Comment

                • Angel
                  ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 7481

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ELVIS
                  I say, let's send 'em to 72 virginland early...


                  The funny thing about the 72 virgins.... In Arabic, the word for raisin is very similar to virgin. There are some who think the Qu'ran was misinterpreted, and they will actually have 72 raisins waiting for them..

                  LOL!
                  "Ya know what they say about angels... An angel is a supernatural being or spirit, usually humanoid in form, found in various religions and mythologies. Plus Roth fan boards..."- ZahZoo April 2013

                  Comment

                  • Hyman Roth
                    Veteran
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 1817

                    #10
                    Kinda difficult to take anything any candidate says too seriously for the next year or so...
                    Trollidillo-T

                    Comment

                    • ELVIS
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 44120

                      #11
                      I refuse to waste my time watching any of this TV debate crap...

                      I did however, catch Bill Clinton's wife explain how she is a modern progressive...scary stuff...

                      And yeah Angel, i've heard the raisin theory, I think from the SM's better half...

                      And another thing...

                      The United States needs to stop embracing Islam with open arms and put the Ten Commandments back up!

                      I'm on a roll, eh ??


                      Comment

                      • Redballjets88
                        Full Member Status

                        • Mar 2005
                        • 4469

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Angel
                        The funny thing about the 72 virgins.... In Arabic, the word for raisin is very similar to virgin. There are some who think the Qu'ran was misinterpreted, and they will actually have 72 raisins waiting for them..

                        LOL!
                        haha oh you said something that made me chuckle... if thats the case instead of suicide bombing they should just go to Sams and buy a thousand. Thanks for the laugh there angel.


                        (i called you angel, how crazy)
                        R.I.P Van Halen 1978-1984

                        hopefully God will ressurect you

                        "i wont be messing with you in future.the fearsome redballjets88 for fear of you owning me some more" Axl S


                        " I liked Sammy Hagar " FORD

                        Comment

                        • lonnieg5
                          Roadie
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 174

                          #13
                          Obama... Kinda sounds like a terrorist name, doesn't it?

                          Comment

                          • Nickdfresh
                            SUPER MODERATOR

                            • Oct 2004
                            • 49205

                            #14
                            Originally posted by lonnieg5
                            Obama... Kinda sounds like a terrorist name, doesn't it?
                            Yeah, if you're a retard that doesn't read things --like the news...

                            Comment

                            • Hyman Roth
                              Veteran
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 1817

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ELVIS
                              I refuse to waste my time watching any of this TV debate crap...

                              ...I'm on a roll, eh ??


                              We can agree that there is probably no greater waste of time than paying any attention to the debates...
                              Trollidillo-T

                              Comment

                              Working...