Kucinich Had A UFO Encounter

[DrMaddVibe]

According To Friend Shirley MacLaine
By Eric Kleefeld - October 23, 2007, 10:19AM
In Shirley MacLaine's new book, the actress and longtime friend of Dennis Kucinich makes an interesting claim: During a visit to her home in Washington state, Kucinich said he saw a UFO and heard messages from it.

"Dennis found his encounter extremely moving," MacLaine writes. "The smell of roses drew him out to my balcony where, when he looked up, he saw a gigantic triangular craft, silent, and observing him.

"It hovered, soundless, for 10 minutes or so, and sped away with a speed he couldn't comprehend. He said he felt a connection in his heart and heard directions in his mind."




Kucinich's campaign and Congressional offices did not return calls or e-mails from the Cleveland Plain Dealer.


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Okay, I now see why some are enamored to voting for him. Didn't Spammy see a ufo too?

[Nickdfresh]

Um, he saw a "UFO?"

He never said "alien spacecraft."

Did Reagan's hypothetical statements regarding and 'alien species' uniting the human race after a 'War of the Worlds' like invasion ever make anyone think he was a lunatic?

And frankly his assertions are far less fantasy-like than Rudy's "I was at ground level zero toiling away..."

[knuckleboner]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Um, he saw a "UFO?"

He never said "alien spacecraft."

yeah, but if maclaine's assertion of the event is anything close to accuratly stating kucinich's version, then it's fairly clear that dennis was not talking about seeing an unidentifiable U.S. prototype fighter...

[Nickdfresh]

I wonder which life Maclaine was in when Dennis told her of this?

[LoungeMachine]

Frankly, it make me want to vote for him even more....

It's the believers in a big gray-bearded old man in the sky that has caused the most troubles in government...

Maybe a leader who doesn't think he has dominion over the whole fucking universe would be a refreshing change..

[FORD]

Ronald Reagan's Obsession With An Alien Invasion

Newsgroups: alt.paranet.abduct
From: jseward@jseward.win.net (Joseph J.Seward)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 01:41:28 GMT
Subject: Reagan's UFO info

[Excerpted from UFO Universe, the September 1988 issue, is this article on Ronald Reagan's reputed UFO encounter, and how that encounter may serve to explain his continued interest in UFOlogy and EBEs.]

THE SHOCKING TRUTH
Ronald Reagan's Obsession With An Alien Invasion
By A. Hovni

Supermarket tabloids, that strange breed of sensationalistic American journalism, have been talking for most of the decade about Ronald Reagan's fascination with things like astrology and space aliens. Little attention was paid to the matter ... after all, the stuff was printed in the tabloids and nobody sane is supposed to believe in them. Yet truth is becoming stranger than fiction in the case of Ronald Wilson Reagan and some of his more curious remarks.

For starters, he has become the first President of the United States to talk about he possibility of an alien invasion from outer space, and he has done so not once or twice but in three speeches. Reagan is also the only President to my knowledge, who admitted -- in a 1984 Presidential debate against Walter Mondale -- [to] having "philosophical discussions" about Armageddon in the White House with some rather well known fundamentalist preachers.

And then there was the explosion about astrology in the White House, triggered by Don Regan's disclosures that Nancy had often consulted astrologers to arrange for appointments with the President. Everyone knows the details by now, yet we asked Marcello Galluppi, a well-known astrologer and host of a psychic radio and TV talk show in Detroit, to give us another view. "It is very clear to me that the politicians in Washington have their psychics and astrologers," said Marcello, "at least some of them do." Furthermore, continued Marcello, there is evidence that the Reagans have used astrology for a long time if we consider that "he was sworn in at midnight as Governor of California, based on astrology."

The media was having a field day with horoscopes at the White House when Reagan talked about the possibility of Earth uniting against a threat by "a power from outer space." Although the idea wasn't new for the President, as we shall soon see, this time everybody paid attention. More as a joke than a serious thought, however. The AP story on the speech, for example, had the headline, "Reagan follows astrological flap with comment on space invaders."

There might be a deeper reason for Reagan's apparent interest in the idea of an alien threat. There is an unconfirmed story that before he became Governor of California, Ron and Nancy had a UFO sighting on a highway near Hollywood. The story was broadcast last February on Steve Allen's radio show over WNEW-AM in New York. The comedian and host commented that a very well known personality in the entertainment industry had confided to him that many years ago, Ron and Nancy were expected to a casual dinner with friends in Hollywood. Except for the Reagan's, all the guests had arrived. Ron and Nancy showed up quite upset half an hour later, saying that they had just seen a UFO coming down the coast. No further details were released by Steve Allen.

The President first disclosed his recurrent thoughts about "an alien threat" during a December 4, 1985, speech at the Fallston High School in Maryland, where he spoke about his first summit with General Secretary Gorbachev in Geneva. According to a White House transcript, Reagan remarked that during his 5-hour private discussions with Gorbachev, he told [Gorbachev] to think, "how easy his task and mine might be in these meetings that we held if suddenly there was a threat to this world from some other species from another planet outside in the universe. We'd forget all the little local differences that we have between our countries ..."

Except for one headline or two, people didn't pay much attention. Not then and not later, when Gorbachev himself confirmed the conversation in Geneva during an important speech on February 17, 1987, in the Grand Kremlin Palace in Moscow, to the Central Committee of the USSR's Communist Party. Not a High School in Maryland, precisely! There, buried on page 7A of the 'Soviet Life Supplement,' was the following statement:

"At our meeting in Geneva, the U.S. President said that if the earth faced an invasion by extraterrestrials, the United States and the Soviet Union would join forces to repel such an invasion. I shall not dispute the hypothesis, though I think it's early yet to worry about such an intrusion..."

Notice that Gorbachev doesn't say this is an incredible proposition, he just says that it's too early to worry about it.

If Gorbachev elevated the theme from a high school to the Kremlin [palace], Reagan upped the stakes again by including the "alien threat" [again], not in a domestic speech but to a full session of the General Assembly of the United Nations. Towards the end of his speech to the Forty-second Session on September 21, 1987, the President said that, "in our obsession with antagonisms of the moment, we often forget how much unites all the members of humanity. Perhaps we need some outside, universal threat to make us recognize this common bond.

"I occasionally think," continued Reagan, "how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. And yet, I ask" -- here comes the clincher -- "is not an alien force ALREADY among us?" The President now tries to retreat from the last bold statement by posing a second question: "What could be more alien to the universal aspirations of our peoples than war and the threat of war?" Unlike the off-the-cuff remarks to the Fallston High School, we must assume that the President's speech to the General Assembly was written very carefully and likewise, it merits close examination.

Ronald Reagan has told us that he thinks often about this issue, yet nobody seems to be paying attention. When the President mentioned last May 4 in Chicago for the third time the possibility of a threat by "a power from another planet," the media quickly dubbed it the "space invaders" speech, relegating it to a sidebar in the astrology flap. The ET remark was made in the Q&A period following a speech to the National Strategy Forum in Chicago's Palmer House Hotel, where he adopted a more conciliatory tone towards the Soviet Union.

Significantly, Reagan's remark was made during his response to the question, "What do you consider to be the most important need in international relations?"

"I've often wondered," the President told us once again, "what if all of us in the world discovered that we were threatened by an outer -- a power from outer space, from another planet." And then he emphasized his theme that this would erase all the differences, and that the "citizens of the world" would "come together to fight that particular threat..."

There is a fourth, unofficial, similar statement from Ronald Reagan about this particular subject. It was reported in the New Republic by senior editor Fred Barnes. The article described a luncheon in the White House between the President and Eduard Shevardnatze, during the Foreign Minister's visit to Washington to sign the INF Treaty on September 15, 1987. "Near the end of his lunch with Shevardnadze," wrote Barnes, "Reagan wondered aloud what would happen if the world faced an 'alien threat' from outer space. 'Don't you think the United States and the Soviet Union would be together?' he asked. Shevardnadze said yes, absolutely. "And we wouldn't need our defense ministers to meet,' he added."

The fact that there are so many references in important speeches, off-the-cuff remarks, and just plain conversations, means that -- for whatever reason or knowledge about deep UFO secrets that he may have as President -- Ronald Reagan does think often about the possibility of an alien invasion, and how this event could become a catalyst for world unity. Talking about these UFO secrets, there is also an unconfirmed story of a special story of a special screening in the White House of the movie "ET" at few years ago, with director Steven Spielberg and a few selected guests. Right after the movie, Reagan supposedly turned to Spielberg and whispered something to the effect, "There are only a handful of people who know the truth about this."

Indeed, more than one UFOlogist has even suggested that the real target behind "Star Wars" -- another of Reagan's cosmic obsessions -- is the projected ET invasion and not the Russians. Others talk of wild "deals" between the U.S. Government and race of gray dwarfs, better known for the appetite for abducting humans ... Stop! We're entering the forbidden terrain of tabloid revelations, like the SUN's screaming headline that "Reagan will end his presidency by adding several planets as states." Just think about it.

Joseph J. Seward | Internet: jseward@jseward.win.net
Pottsville, Pa. 17901 | CIS UserID: 75274,3562
U.S.A. | America Online: Bulls33

[LoungeMachine]

So Kucinich is the next Reagan ???

And by the by....

Isn't Romney's entire religion based on ET ???

[Guitar Shark]

I don't know which is more humorous - the fact that MaddVibe considers this newsworthy, or all the "But REAGAN!!" posts in this thread. Warham would be proud of the latter.

[LoungeMachine]

Americans who believe in ET 36%

Americans who approve of Bush 24%

We report, you decide.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
I don't know which is more humorous - the fact that MaddVibe considers this newsworthy, or all the "But REAGAN!!" posts in this thread. Warham would be proud of the latter.

Then again, that would make Warham love the Gipper all the more - as he has expressed interest in UFOs as well...

[FORD]

Assvibe considers it "newsworthy" because Mush and Insanity won't stop talking about it.

Of course they don't mention their messiah Reagan either.

[DLR'sCock]

Well it's not like the guy goes around talking about this at all, thankfully. Of course this will be used against him.


Considering each Galaxy contains over 50 billion stars, of which each has it's own potential solar system, and there are more than 50 billion galaxies in the universe the odds are highly likely for life to exist beyond the planet Earth.

Most likely there is some form of life in the oceans underneath the moon of Europa. Volcanic vents plus water, will bring life forms, of course it will be a long time before this will be discovered whether it's true or not about Europa.


Now the chances of a highly advanced life form with the ability to travel this far to our end of the universe, well that is whole other story all together.

Well who really knows, the more you realize you don't know shit, the better off you are.

[Baby's On Fire]

Originally posted by DLR'sCock
Well it's not like the guy goes around talking about this at all, thankfully. Of course this will be used against him.


Considering each Galaxy contains over 50 billion stars, of which each has it's own potential solar system, and there are more than 50 billion galaxies in the universe the odds are highly likely for life to exist beyond the planet Earth,

Most likely there is some form of life in the oceans underneath the moon of Europa. Volcanic vents plus water, will bring life forms, of course it will be a long time before this will be discovered whether it's true or not about Europa.


Now the chances of a highly advanced life form with the ability to travel this far to our end of the universe, well that is whole other story all together.

Well who really knows, the more you realize you don't know shit, the better off you are.

People such as Stephen Hawking have theorized that travelling such distances in short time spans is feasible, with advanced technology.

[Nitro Express]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
So Kucinich is the next Reagan ???

And by the by....

Isn't Romney's entire religion based on ET ???

I was raised in Romney's religion and no it's not ET. It's Jews migrate to America and Jesus visits them. Then the founder gets horny and starts having affairs. A secret temple fraternity based on free masonery is quickly thrown together to hide secret plural marriages the church apolstles are having.

The ET religion is Scientology which believes we are an allien race trapped here on earth or some shit like that. Ask Tom Cruise, I'm sure he could tell you every detail.

[DrMaddVibe]

PHILADELPHIA (CNN) Ñ So if there are space aliens, can they register to vote?

Perhaps Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich is courting their support, discussing a UFO sighting in Tuesday nightÕs debate.

He confirmed an account in actress Shirley MacLaineÕs book that he saw a UFO at her home in Washington state. Though he didnÕt address the rest of her description, that the Ohio congressman Òfelt a connection in his heart and heard directions in his mind.Ó

Kucinich said to moderator Tim RussertÕs question, ÒIt was an unidentified flying object, OK? It's, like, it's unidentified. I saw something.Ó

To laughter, he added, ÒI'm also going to move my campaign office to Roswell, New Mexico, and other one in Exeter, New Hampshire, OK? And also, you have to keep in mind that more Ñ that Jimmy Carter saw a UFO and also that more people in this country have seen UFOs than I think approve of George Bush's presidency.Ó

Rival candidate Barack Obama, asked if he believes in life on other planets, responded, ÒYou know, I don't know. And I don't presume to know. What I know is there is life here on Earth, and that we're not attending to life here on Earth.Ó

ÒWe're not taking care of kids who are alive and unfortunately are not getting health care," Obama continued. "We're not taking care of senior citizens who are alive and are seeing their heating prices go up. So, as president, those are the people I will be attending to first."

"There may be some other folks on their way," he added.

The Democratic presidential candidates next square off November 15 at CNN's debate in Las Vegas.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/31/kucinich-i-saw-a-ufo/