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  • kwame k
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Feb 2008
    • 11302

    Change your Avatar FORD or you will get sued!

    AP alleges copyright infringement of Obama image

    NEW YORK – On buttons, posters and Web sites, the image was everywhere during last year's presidential campaign: A pensive Barack Obama looking upward, as if to the future, splashed in a Warholesque red, white and blue and underlined with the caption HOPE.

    Designed by Shepard Fairey, a Los-Angeles based street artist, the image has led to sales of hundreds of thousands of posters and stickers, has become so much in demand that copies signed by Fairey have been purchased for thousands of dollars on eBay.

    The image, Fairey has acknowledged, is based on an Associated Press photograph, taken in April 2006 by Manny Garcia on assignment for the AP at the National Press Club in Washington.

    The AP says it owns the copyright, and wants credit and compensation. Fairey disagrees.

    "The Associated Press has determined that the photograph used in the poster is an AP photo and that its use required permission," the AP's director of media relations, Paul Colford, said in a statement.

    "AP safeguards its assets and looks at these events on a case-by-case basis. We have reached out to Mr. Fairey's attorney and are in discussions. We hope for an amicable solution."

    "We believe fair use protects Shepard's right to do what he did here," says Fairey's attorney, Anthony Falzone, executive director of the Fair Use Project at Stanford University and a lecturer at the Stanford Law School. "It wouldn't be appropriate to comment beyond that at this time because we are in discussions about this with the AP."

    Fair use is a legal concept that allows exceptions to copyright law, based on, among other factors, how much of the original is used, what the new work is used for and how the original is affected by the new work.

    A longtime rebel with a history of breaking rules, Fairey has said he found the photograph using Google Images. He released the image on his Web site shortly after he created it, in early 2008, and made thousands of posters for the street.

    As it caught on, supporters began downloading the image and distributing it at campaign events, while blogs and other Internet sites picked it up. Fairey has said that he did not receive any of the money raised.

    A former Obama campaign official said they were well aware of the image based on the picture taken by Garcia, a temporary hire no longer with the AP, but never licensed it or used it officially. The Obama official asked not to be identified because no one was authorized anymore to speak on behalf of the campaign.

    The image's fame did not end with the election.

    It will be included this month at a Fairey exhibit at the Institute of Contemporary Art in Boston and a mixed-media stenciled collage version has been added to the permanent collection of the National Portrait Gallery in Washington.

    "The continued use of the poster, regardless of whether it is for galleries or other distribution, is part of the discussion AP is having with Mr. Fairey's representative," Colford said.

    A New York Times book on the election, just published by Penguin Group (USA), includes the image. A Vermont-based publisher, Chelsea Green, also used it — credited solely to Fairey_ as the cover for Robert Kuttner's "Obama's Challenge," an economic manifesto released in September. Chelsea Green president Margo Baldwin said that Fairey did not ask for money, only that the publisher make a donation to the National Endowment for the Arts.

    "It's a wonderful piece of art, but I wish he had been more careful about the licensing of it," said Baldwin, who added that Chelsea Green gave $2,500 to the NEA.

    Fairey also used the AP photograph for an image designed specially for the Obama inaugural committee, which charged anywhere from $100 for a poster to $500 for a poster signed by the artist.

    Fairey has said that he first designed the image a year ago after he was encouraged by the Obama campaign to come up with some kind of artwork. Last spring, he showed a letter to The Washington Post that came from the candidate.

    "Dear Shepard," the letter reads. "I would like to thank you for using your talent in support of my campaign. The political messages involved in your work have encouraged Americans to believe they can help change the status quo. Your images have a profound effect on people, whether seen in a gallery or on a stop sign."

    At first, Obama's team just encouraged him to make an image, Fairey has said. But soon after he created it, a worker involved in the campaign asked if Fairey could make an image from a photo to which the campaign had rights.

    "I donated an image to them, which they used. It was the one that said "Change" underneath it. And then later on I did another one that said "Vote" underneath it, that had Obama smiling," he said in a December 2008 interview with an underground photography Web site.

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    Originally posted by vandeleur
    E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place
  • LoungeMachine
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Jul 2004
    • 32555

    #2
    Just saw the [artist's] interview with Charlie Rose, and the Obama Campaign gave him the photo to use, and told him THEY owned the rights to it.

    Originally posted by Kristy
    Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
    Originally posted by cadaverdog
    I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 58754

      #3
      Fuck the Assholiated Corporate Press. They should worry about reporting facts, and not making money from a fucking picture.
      Eat Us And Smile

      Cenk For America 2024!!

      Justice Democrats


      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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      • kwame k
        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
        • Feb 2008
        • 11302

        #4
        This is one of those....much ado about nothing......things......
        Originally posted by vandeleur
        E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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        • GAR
          Banned
          • Jan 2004
          • 10849

          #5
          Originally posted by FORD
          Fuck the Assholiated Corporate Press. They should worry about reporting facts, and not making money from a fucking picture.
          Obama's been taking in tens of millions, not only in stickers and posters, but in hundred-thousand dollar billboards across the country with that plagiarised photo.

          He's probably spent 100 million on advertising with that appealing Soviet-Era styled artwork.

          When the AP provide copies of photos for "fair-use" publicity and journalism handouts, not only does that exclude marketable rights, but even when you do that you're supposed to tag the copywrite on it. Failure to do so then become a copywrite infringement issue, so there's a second problem to that.

          Your boy's good at taking things that do not belong to him and we'll see just how he does in charge of the biggest "doesn't-belong-to-him" issue when he starts spending trillions of dollars that do not belong to the Taxpayer, leaving them in the lurch with double-digit trillions in debt. That's your boy: Defecit Obama.
          Last edited by GAR; 02-04-2009, 10:54 PM.

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          • kwame k
            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
            • Feb 2008
            • 11302

            #6
            Originally posted by GAR
            Obama's been taking in tens of millions, not only in stickers and posters, but in hundred-thousand dollar billboards across the country.

            He's probably spent 100 million on advertising with that appealing Soviet-Era styled artwork.

            When the AP provide copies of photos for "fair-use" publicity and journalism handouts, not only does that exclude marketable rights, but even when you do that you're supposed to tag the copywrite on it.

            Your boy's a blatant plagiarist. He's good at taking things that do not belong to him and we'll see just how he does in charge of the biggest "doesn't-belong-to-him" issue when he starts spending trillions of dollars that do not belong to the Taxpayer, leaving them in the lurch with double-digit trillions in debt. That's your boy: Defecit Obama.

            Ah.....duh....racist....this isn't......Obama is not the one being sued......but be afraid, very afraid....the Mexicans are coming......the word on the street is that they may take away your rights to post at the libary........
            Originally posted by vandeleur
            E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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            • GAR
              Banned
              • Jan 2004
              • 10849

              #7
              Originally posted by kwame k
              This is one of those....much ado about nothing......things......
              So if somebody raises 600 million dollars, and sells maybe 50 million in merch with a photograph you took, you're okay with that?

              You're obviously not a professional photographer: at the end of this is a real live person who's just eating the shit out of life because his employer fucked him over till it was too late. And now that he wants it stopped, you think this is a little issue, you're very wrong.

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              • kwame k
                TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                • Feb 2008
                • 11302

                #8
                Originally posted by GAR
                So if somebody raises 600 million dollars, and sells maybe 50 million in merch with a photograph you took, you're okay with that?

                You're obviously not a professional photographer: at the end of this is a real live person who's just eating the shit out of life because his employer fucked him over till it was too late. And now that he wants it stopped, you think this is a little issue, you're very wrong.
                Nice deflection......racist.....refer to this post.....by you

                Obama's been taking in tens of millions, not only in stickers and posters, but in hundred-thousand dollar billboards across the country with that plagiarised photo.

                He's probably spent 100 million on advertising with that appealing Soviet-Era styled artwork.

                Your boy's good at taking things that do not belong to him and we'll see just how he does in charge of the biggest "doesn't-belong-to-him" issue when he starts spending trillions of dollars that do not belong to the Taxpayer, leaving them in the lurch with double-digit trillions in debt. That's your boy: Defecit Obama.
                again....Obama's not the issue........hey, I hear the library is having a debate class.....sign up......
                Originally posted by vandeleur
                E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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                • ELVIS
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 44120

                  #9
                  Are you cslling Gar a racist based on his contribution to this thread or past efforts ??

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                  • jhale667
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 20929

                    #10
                    You really think that one's slipping by?

                    Originally posted by GAR
                    Your boy....

                    Your PRESIDENT, Bitch.
                    Originally posted by conmee
                    If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                    That is all.

                    Icon.
                    Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                    I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                    Originally posted by Isaac R.
                    Then it's really true??:eek:

                    The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                    OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                    Originally posted by eddie78
                    I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                    • GAR
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 10849

                      #11
                      THE president.

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                      • GAR
                        Banned
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 10849

                        #12
                        Originally posted by kwame k
                        Nice deflection......racist.....refer to this post....
                        Nice bait, Rat!

                        Didn't really work.

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                        • kwame k
                          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 11302

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ELVIS
                          Are you cslling Gar a racist based on his contribution to this thread or past efforts ??

                          Oh...I don't know maybe the content of all his political posts.....
                          Originally posted by vandeleur
                          E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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                          • kwame k
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 11302

                            #14
                            Originally posted by GAR
                            Nice bait, Rat!

                            Didn't really work.
                            I agree....you had a bullshit comeback based on nothing......grab the Librarian and ask her what comprehension means........ramblining off about 600 million and such.....while she's trying explain comprehension.......ask her what that there big word context means......
                            Last edited by kwame k; 02-04-2009, 11:46 PM.
                            Originally posted by vandeleur
                            E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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                            • jhale667
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 20929

                              #15
                              Originally posted by GAR
                              THE president.
                              Exactly. Much like Repukes reminded everyone for the last eight years - same difference. Deal with it. :tongue0011:
                              Originally posted by conmee
                              If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                              That is all.

                              Icon.
                              Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                              I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                              Originally posted by Isaac R.
                              Then it's really true??:eek:

                              The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                              OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                              Originally posted by eddie78
                              I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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