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  • Dolemite!
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    • Jun 2009
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    The Four Reasons the Mainstream Media Is Worthless

    Washington's Blog

    There are four reasons that the mainstream media is worthless.

    1. Self-Censorship by Journalists

    Initially, there is tremendous self-censorship by journalists.

    For example, several months after 9/11, famed news anchor Dan Rather told the BBC that American reporters were practicing "a form of self-censorship":

    "there was a time in South Africa that people would put flaming tires around peoples' necks if they dissented. And in some ways the fear is that you will be necklaced here, you will have a flaming tire of lack of patriotism put around your neck. Now it is that fear that keeps journalists from asking the toughest of the tough questions.... And again, I am humbled to say, I do not except myself from this criticism.
    "What we are talking about here - whether one wants to recognise it or not, or call it by its proper name or not - is a form of self-censorship."

    Keith Olbermann agreed that there is self-censorship in the American media, and that:

    "You can rock the boat, but you can never say that the entire ocean is in trouble .... You cannot say: By the way, there's something wrong with our .... system".


    As former Washington Post columnist Dan Froomkin wrote in 2006:



    Mainstream-media political journalism is in danger of becoming increasingly irrelevant, but not because of the Internet, or even Comedy Central. The threat comes from inside. It comes from journalists being afraid to do what journalists were put on this green earth to do. . . .

    There’s the intense pressure to maintain access to insider sources, even as those sources become ridiculously unrevealing and oversensitive. There’s the fear of being labeled partisan if one’s bullshit-calling isn’t meted out in precisely equal increments along the political spectrum.

    If mainstream-media political journalists don’t start calling bullshit more often, then we do risk losing our primacy — if not to the comedians then to the bloggers.

    I still believe that no one is fundamentally more capable of first-rate bullshit-calling than a well-informed beat reporter - whatever their beat. We just need to get the editors, or the corporate culture, or the self-censorship – or whatever it is – out of the way.

    And Air Force Colonel and key Pentagon official Karen Kwiatkowski wrote:

    I have been told by reporters that they will not report their own insights or contrary evaluations of the official 9/11 story, because to question the government story about 9/11 is to question the very foundations of our entire modern belief system regarding our government, our country, and our way of life. To be charged with questioning these foundations is far more serious than being labeled a disgruntled conspiracy nut or anti-government traitor, or even being sidelined or marginalized within an academic, government service, or literary career. To question the official 9/11 story is simply and fundamentally revolutionary. In this way, of course, questioning the official story is also simply and fundamentally American.
    (page 26).

    2. Censorship by Higher-Ups

    If journalists do want to speak out about an issue, they also are subject to tremendous pressure by their editors or producers to kill the story.

    The Pulitzer prize-winning reporter who uncovered the Iraq prison torture scandal and the Mai Lai massacre in Vietnam, Seymour Hersh, said:

    "All of the institutions we thought would protect us -- particularly the press, but also the military, the bureaucracy, the Congress -- they have failed. The courts . . . the jury's not in yet on the courts. So all the things that we expect would normally carry us through didn't. The biggest failure, I would argue, is the press, because that's the most glaring....

    Q: What can be done to fix the (media) situation?

    [Long pause] You'd have to fire or execute ninety percent of the editors and executives. You'd actually have to start promoting people from the newsrooms to be editors who you didn't think you could control. And they're not going to do that."
    In fact many journalists are warning that the true story is not being reported. See this announcement and this talk.

    And a series of interviews with award-winning journalists also documents censorship of certain stories by media editors and owners (and see these samples).

    There are many reasons for censorship by media higher-ups.


    One is money.

    The media has a strong monetary interest to avoid controversial topics in general. It has always been true that advertisers discourage stories which challenge corporate power. Indeed, a 2003 survey reveals that 35% of reporters and news executives themselves admitted that journalists avoid newsworthy stories if “the story would be embarrassing or damaging to the financial interests of a news organization’s owners or parent company.”


    In addition, the government has allowed tremendous consolidation in ownership of the airwaves during the past decade. The large media players stand to gain billions of dollars in profits if the Obama administration continues to allow monopoly ownership of the airwaves by a handful of players. The media giants know who butters their bread. So there is a spoken or tacit agreement: if the media cover the administration in a favorable light, the MSM will continue to be the receiver of the government's goodies.


    3. Drumming Up Support for War

    In addition, the owners of American media companies have long actively played a part in drumming up support for war.

    It is painfully obvious that the large news outlets studiously avoided any real criticism of the government's claims in the run up to the Iraq war. It is painfully obvious that the large American media companies acted as lapdogs and stenographers for the government's war agenda.

    Veteran reporter Bill Moyers criticized the corporate media for parroting the obviously false link between 9/11 and Iraq (and the false claims that Iraq possessed WMDs) which the administration made in the run up to the Iraq war, and concluded that the false information was not challenged because:

    "the [mainstream] media had been cheerleaders for the White House from the beginning and were simply continuing to rally the public behind the President — no questions asked."
    And as NBC News' David Gregory (later promoted to host Meet the Press) said:


    "I think there are a lot of critics who think that . . . . if we did not stand up [in the run-up to the war] and say 'this is bogus, and you're a liar, and why are you doing this,' that we didn't do our job. I respectfully disagree. It's not our role"
    But this is nothing new. In fact, the large media companies have drummed up support for all previous wars.

    For example, Hearst helped drum up support for the Spanish-American War.

    And an official summary of America's overthrow of the democratically-elected president of Iran in the 1950's states, "In cooperation with the Department of State, CIA had several articles planted in major American newspapers and magazines which, when reproduced in Iran, had the desired psychological effect in Iran and contributed to the war of nerves against Mossadeq." (page x)

    The mainstream media also may have played footsie with the U.S. government right before Pearl Harbor. Specifically, a highly-praised historian (Bob Stineet) argues that the Army’s Chief of Staff informed the Washington bureau chiefs of the major newspapers and magazines of the impending Pearl Harbor attack BEFORE IT OCCURRED, and swore them to an oath of secrecy, which the media honored (page 361) .

    And the military-media alliance has continued without a break (as a highly-respected journalist says, "viewers may be taken aback to see the grotesque extent to which US presidents and American news media have jointly shouldered key propaganda chores for war launches during the last five decades.")

    As the mainstream British paper, the Independent, writes:

    There is a concerted strategy to manipulate global perception. And the mass media are operating as its compliant assistants, failing both to resist it and to expose it. The sheer ease with which this machinery has been able to do its work reflects a creeping structural weakness which now afflicts the production of our news.
    The article in the Independent discusses the use of "black propaganda" by the U.S. government, which is then parroted by the media without analysis; for example, the government forged a letter from al Zarqawi to the "inner circle" of al-Qa'ida's leadership, urging them to accept that the best way to beat US forces in Iraq was effectively to start a civil war, which was then publicized without question by the media..

    So why has the American press has consistenly served the elites in disseminating their false justifications for war?


    One of of the reasons is because the large media companies are owned by those who support the militarist agenda or even directly profit from war and terror (for example, NBC is owned by General Electric, one of the largest defense contractors in the world -- which directly profits from war, terrorism and chaos).

    Another seems to be an unspoken rule that the media will not criticize the government's imperial war agenda.

    And the media support isn't just for war: it is also for various other shenanigans by the powerful. For example, a BBC documentarysdocuments:


    There was "a planned coup in the USA in 1933 by a group of right-wing American businessmen . . . . The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America, (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush’s Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression."

    Moreover, "the tycoons told the general who they asked to carry out the coup that the American people would accept the new government because they controlled all the newspapers." See also this book.

    Have you ever heard of this scheme before? It was certainly a very large one. And if the conspirators controlled the newspapers then, how much worse is it today with media consolidation?

    4. Censorship by the Government

    Finally, as if the media's own interest in promoting war is not strong enough, the government has exerted tremendous pressure on the media to report things a certain way. Indeed, at times the government has thrown media owners and reporters in jail if they've been too critical. The media companies have felt great pressure from the government to kill any real questioning of the endless wars.

    For example, Dan Rather said, regarding American media, "What you have is a miniature version of what you have in totalitarian states".

    Tom Brokaw said "all wars are based on propaganda.

    And the head of CNN said:

    "there was 'almost a patriotism police' after 9/11 and when the network showed [things critical of the administration's policies] it would get phone calls from advertisers and the administration and "big people in corporations were calling up and saying, 'You're being anti-American here.'"
    Indeed, former military analyst and famed Pentagon Papers whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg said that the government has ordered the media not to cover 9/11:

    Ellsberg seemed hardly surprised that today's American mainstream broadcast media has so far failed to take [former FBI translator and 9/11 whistleblower Sibel] Edmonds up on her offer, despite the blockbuster nature of her allegations [which Ellsberg calls "far more explosive than the Pentagon Papers"].
    As Edmonds has also alluded, Ellsberg pointed to the New York Times, who "sat on the NSA spying story for over a year" when they "could have put it out before the 2004 election, which might have changed the outcome."

    "There will be phone calls going out to the media saying 'don't even think of touching it, you will be prosecuted for violating national security,'" he told us.

    * * *

    "I am confident that there is conversation inside the Government as to 'How do we deal with Sibel?'" contends Ellsberg. "The first line of defense is to ensure that she doesn't get into the media. I think any outlet that thought of using her materials would go to to the government and they would be told 'don't touch this . . . .'"


    Of course, if the stick approach doesn't work, the government can always just pay off reporters to spread disinformation. Indeed, an expert on propaganda testified under oath during trial that the CIA employs THOUSANDS of reporters and OWNS its own media organizations (the expert has an impressive background).

    And famed Watergate reporter Carl Bernstein says the CIA has already bought and paid for many successful journalists. See also this New York Times piece, this essay by the Independent, this speech by one of the premier writers on journalism, and this and this roundup.

    Indeed, in the final analysis, the main reason today that the media giants will not cover the real stories or question the government's actions or policies in any meaningful way is that we live in a country that is not all that free (see point number 6). Mussolini said that fascism is the blending of the government and corporate interests, and the American government and mainstream media have in fact been blended together to an unprecedented degree.

    See this book and the following 5-part interview for further information on 9/11 and the media: (Part 1 • Part 2 • Part 3 • Part 4 • Part 5
  • Dolemite!
    Banned
    • Jun 2009
    • 689

    #2
    Media corporations share members of the board of directors with a variety of other large corporations, including banks, investment companies, oil companies, health care and pharmaceutical companies and technology companies. This list shows board interlocks for the following major media interests:


    ABC/Disney | NBC/GE | CBS/Viacom | CNN/TimeWarner | Fox/News Corp. | New York Times Co.
    Washington Post/Newsweek | Wall Street Journal/Dow Jones | Tribune Co. | Gannett | Knight-Ridder


    ABC/Disney
    See the board of directors

    Boeing
    Casella Waste Systems
    CB Richard Ellis Services
    City National Bank
    Columbia/HCA Healthcare
    Doubleclick
    Edison International
    FedEx
    Jenny Craig
    LM Institutional Fund Advisors I
    Lozano Communications
    Northwest Airlines
    On Command Corp.
    Pacific American Income Shares
    Shamrock Holdings
    Sotheby's N. America
    Staples
    Starwood Hotels & Resorts
    Sun Microsystems
    SunAmerica
    Trefoil Investors
    UNUM Provident
    Verdon-Cedric Productions
    Xerox


    NBC/GE
    See the board of directors

    Alcatel
    Anheuser-Busch
    Ann Taylor
    Avon
    Banco Nacional de Mexico
    Cambridge Technology Partners
    Catalyst
    Champion International
    Chase Manhattan
    Choice-Point
    Chubb Corporation
    Coca-Cola
    Community Health Systems
    Dell Computer
    Delphi Automotive
    Fiat
    Home Depot
    Honeywell
    Illinois Tool Works
    International Speedy
    Internet Security Systems
    Invemed
    Morgan Chase & Co.
    Kellogg
    Kimberly-Clark
    Knight-Ridder
    Microtune
    Morgan Gauranty Trust
    National Service Industries
    New York Stock Exchange
    Oglivy & Mather
    Penske
    Planet Hollywood
    Scientific Atlanta
    State Street Bank and Trust
    Sun Microsystems
    Texaco
    TIAA-CREF
    Total Systems Services
    TRICON Global Restaurants
    Unifi
    Unilever
    WinStar


    CBS/Viacom
    See the board of directors

    Akamai Technologies
    Amazon.com
    American Express
    American Home Products Corp
    Atlas Air
    Avnet
    Bank One
    Bear Sterns Companies
    Boston Properties
    Cardinal Health
    Care Capital
    Chase Manhattan
    CineBridge Ventures
    Credit Suisse First Boston Corp.
    CVS
    Daimler Chrysler
    Dell
    DND Capital Partners
    Downeast Food Distributors
    Electronic Data Systems
    Ezgov.com
    Genuity
    Honeywell
    Morgan Chase & Co.
    Lafarge Corp
    Louisiana Marine Transport
    Maersk Group
    MBIA
    MovieTickets.com
    New York Stock Exchange
    Orion Safety Products
    PartnerRe
    Pfizer
    Polaris Venture Capital
    Prudential Insurance
    Rockwell International Corp
    Sonesta
    Ventro
    Verizon
    Visteon


    CNN/TimeWarner
    See the board of directors

    Allstate
    American Express
    American International
    AMR
    Barksdale Group
    Catellus Development
    Chevron
    Citigroup
    Colgate-Palmolive
    Community Health Systems
    Dell Computers
    Eagle River
    Exult
    Fannie Mae
    FedEx
    Forstmann Little & Co.
    Hills & Co.
    Hilton Hotels
    Interpublic Group
    Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers
    Lucent
    Morgan Stanley Dean Witter
    New York Stock Exchange
    Nextel Communications
    Oakwood Homes Corp
    Park Place Entertainment
    Pearson plc
    PepsiCo
    Pfizer
    Pharmacyclics
    Sears
    Sun Microsystems
    TCW
    Webvan
    Westfield America Corp
    XO Communications
    ZG Ventures


    Fox/News Corp.
    See the board of directors

    Allen & Company
    Bayou Steel Corp
    Beijing PDN Xiren Info. Tech. Co.
    British Airways
    Championship Auto Racing Teams
    Commonwealth Bank of Australia
    Compaq
    Gateway
    John Swire and Son Pty.
    Kleiner, Perkins, Caufield & Byers
    New York Stock Exchange
    One.Tel
    Phillip Morris
    PMP Communications
    RM William Holdings
    Rothschild Investment
    Sanoma of Finnland
    Six Flags
    Valence Technology
    Western Multiplex Corp
    Worldcom


    New York Times Co.
    See the board of directors

    360 Degree Communication
    Alcoa
    Avon
    Bristol-Meyers Squibb
    Campbell Soup
    Carlyle Group
    Chase Manhattan
    Cummins Engine Corp
    Ford
    Grace & Co.
    Hallmark Cards
    Hanson PLC
    Johnson & Johnson
    Knoll
    Lehman Bros.
    Lucas Digital
    LucasArts
    Lucent Technologies
    Metropolitan Life
    PepsiCo
    Principal Financial Group
    Schering-Plough
    Sears
    Springs Industries
    Starwood Hotels & Resorts
    State Street Research and Management
    Texaco
    US Industries
    Warburg, Pincus & Co.
    Zurich Insurance


    Washington Post/Newsweek
    See the board of directors

    Allen & Company
    Ashland Oil
    Berkshire Hathaway
    Coca-Cola
    Darden Restaurants
    Gilette
    Heinz
    Lexmark
    McDonalds
    Polaroid
    Ticketmaster
    Union Pacific
    USA Networks
    White Mountain Holdings
    Yankee Nets


    Wall Street Journal/Dow Jones
    See the board of directors

    12 Entreprenuering
    Airclic
    American Express
    AOL Latin America
    Bancroft Operations
    Bank of East Asia
    Bankers Trust Company
    Callaway Golf
    Campbell Soup
    Clear Channel
    Ford
    Hallmark Cards
    Hartford Financial Services Group
    ITT Corp.
    Penney
    Lazard Freres
    Met Life
    Minerals Technology
    Pfizer
    Rayonier
    Revlon
    Ryder System
    Sara Lee
    Shell Oil
    Sprint
    Texaco
    Union Carbide
    UtiliCorp United
    Xerox


    Tribune Co.
    See the board of directors

    American National Can Group
    Aon
    Burlington Northern Santa Fe
    CINergy
    Corning
    Dean Foods
    Deere & Co.
    Diamond Technology partners
    First Chicago NBD
    First Third Bancorp
    Inter-Con Security Systems
    Maynard Partners Incorporated
    McDonalds
    Nordstrom
    Schlumberger Information Solutions
    Schwarz Worldwide
    Sears
    Skyline Corp.
    Smurfit-Stone Container
    Taft Broadcasting
    Union Central Life Insurance
    United Airlines
    Washington Mutual
    Western Telecommunications


    Gannett/USA Today
    See the board of directors

    Aloha Airgroup
    American Express
    Armstrong World Industries
    Capital Investment of Hawaii
    Carlisle
    Continental Airlines
    Cummins Engine Co.
    Dayton Hudson Corp.
    Eastman Chemical Corp.
    FLP (Florida Power and Light)
    Fronteir Corp
    Goldman Sachs
    IBM
    Kaufman and Broad Home Corp.
    Millenium Bank
    Pacific Century Financial Corp.
    Penny Whistle Toys
    Prudential Mutual Funds
    Textron
    TIAA-CREF
    Union Pacific
    United Health Group
    Waste Management


    Knight-Ridder
    See the board of directors

    A&P
    AP
    BankAmerica
    Barclays
    Blue Cross/Blue Shield Florida
    Cambridge Technology
    Champion International
    Chubb Corporation
    Commercial Metals Company
    Conrail
    CVS
    Digital Equipment Corp
    Economic Studies
    Eli Lilly
    Fannie Mae
    General Electric
    Goldman Sachs
    IKON
    Ionics Corp.
    John Hancock Mutual Life Insurance Co.
    Kimberly-Clark
    MAS Funds
    Massachusetts Mutual Life Insurance Co.
    Phillips Petroleum
    Providian Financial
    Raytheon
    Reliance Group Holdings
    Seattle Times
    State Street Bank and Trust
    Sun Company
    Sun MicroSystems
    Tandy Corp
    Tricon Global Restaurants
    Union Carbide
    Vanguard Group
    WinStar Communications

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    • Nitro Express
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 32798

      #3
      Pretty much. Why do you think a CEO gets huge severance packages after they get fired and they always get rehired in another company. It's a big boys club and the tighter the club gets the more they pay themselves and screw the employees, shareholders, and customers.
      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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      • Coyote
        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
        • Jan 2004
        • 8185

        #4
        Actually, mainstream media is worthless due to it being harnessed to serve an agenda...
        Why settle for something you have, if it's not as good as something you're out to get?

        Originally posted by Seshmeister
        It's like putting up a YouTube of Bach and playing Chopstix on your Bontempi...

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        • Dolemite!
          Banned
          • Jun 2009
          • 689

          #5
          It is, and this should be self-explanatory. But most people think , "oh another conspiracy theory, yeah everyone's in on it."

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          • ZahZoo
            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

            • Jan 2004
            • 8970

            #6
            My observation... mainstream media is becoming more and more irrelevant with each passing day. CBS, ABC, NBC, etc... How much of an impact can they be having in a half hour slot per day on the tube?

            Similar thing with print media... yesterday's news.

            Cable news and especially the internet are about to give traditional news sources a well deserved dirt nap.
            "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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            • The Elfoid_TFS
              Groupie
              • Jun 2009
              • 57

              #7
              This is all well and good, but I think it's been pretty obvious for a long time now. Won't ever change, unfortunately.

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              • BITEYOASS
                ROTH ARMY ELITE
                • Jan 2004
                • 6530

                #8
                If it's on TV and if it's not local, then don't watch it. That is my simple solution.

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                • The Elfoid_TFS
                  Groupie
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 57

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BITEYOASS
                  If it's on TV and if it's not local, then don't watch it. That is my simple solution.
                  I prefer to weigh up multiple sources' takes on it and come to a conclusion from all of that.

                  NewsNight, Channel 4 News, Wikipedia, WikiNews, The Independent and The Week (is that magazine published outside of the UK? I don't think it is) are the things I'll check out if I want information. You can't trust one source, but I'm sure you can make a more informed decision if you check several.

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                  • hideyoursheep
                    ROTH ARMY ELITE
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6351

                    #10
                    You can't take any sponsored media outlet's word as gospel. Period.

                    Their job is to sell papers or get viewers. You'll never get the absolute truth.

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                    • Dolemite!
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 689

                      #11
                      Originally posted by The Elfoid_TFS
                      I prefer to weigh up multiple sources' takes on it and come to a conclusion from all of that.

                      NewsNight, Channel 4 News, Wikipedia, WikiNews, The Independent and The Week (is that magazine published outside of the UK? I don't think it is) are the things I'll check out if I want information. You can't trust one source, but I'm sure you can make a more informed decision if you check several.
                      um... don't know about those papers/channels specifically but the point is that these "multiple" sources are ultimately not multiple...which is the reason for the uniform spreading of bs propaganda that is passed off as news.

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                      • Dolemite!
                        Banned
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 689

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ZahZoo
                        My observation... mainstream media is becoming more and more irrelevant with each passing day. CBS, ABC, NBC, etc... How much of an impact can they be having in a half hour slot per day on the tube?

                        Similar thing with print media... yesterday's news.

                        Cable news and especially the internet are about to give traditional news sources a well deserved dirt nap.
                        Trouble is no one takes the internet seriously and wants a source going back to one of those conglomerates. Doesn't matter that something is actually happening and real people report on it. It's not the message people worry about it's the messenger. The sheep are dragging everyone along with them to the slaughter.

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                        • standin
                          Veteran
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 2274

                          #13
                          Of course, people worry of the messenger. The same as one outlet may have an agenda, a messenger may also have an agenda or reason/desire to misconstrue.

                          Just because they are "people" do not make them truthful or trustworthy, furthermore "they,” "the people", might have already been beguiled.
                          To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.
                          MICHAEL G. MULLEN

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                          • FORD
                            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 58789

                            #14
                            Originally posted by The Elfoid_TFS
                            I prefer to weigh up multiple sources' takes on it and come to a conclusion from all of that.

                            NewsNight, Channel 4 News, Wikipedia, WikiNews, The Independent and The Week (is that magazine published outside of the UK? I don't think it is) are the things I'll check out if I want information. You can't trust one source, but I'm sure you can make a more informed decision if you check several.
                            Well, at least you have the BBC, which is still more or less reliable as a news source. Here in the states, we can get 1/2 hour of BBC News coverage on the PBS stations.

                            And if you live in a state near the Canadian border as I do, you can also get a CBC station on cable. They still have reliable news coverage.

                            As far as US corporate media goes..... pretty much crap aside from MSNBC's prime time evening lineup.
                            Eat Us And Smile

                            Cenk For America 2024!!

                            Justice Democrats


                            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                            • The Elfoid_TFS
                              Groupie
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 57

                              #15
                              Originally posted by FORD
                              Well, at least you have the BBC, which is still more or less reliable as a news source. Here in the states, we can get 1/2 hour of BBC News coverage on the PBS stations.

                              And if you live in a state near the Canadian border as I do, you can also get a CBC station on cable. They still have reliable news coverage.

                              As far as US corporate media goes..... pretty much crap aside from MSNBC's prime time evening lineup.
                              Generally the more high-brow Brits reckon Channel 4 has more informative, accurate news than the BBC. But yes, the BBC is one of the better stations out there for news...it's sponsored/funded by the government yet willing to openly criticise anyone in politics.

                              Originally posted by Dolemite!
                              um... don't know about those papers/channels specifically but the point is that these "multiple" sources are ultimately not multiple...which is the reason for the uniform spreading of bs propaganda that is passed off as news.
                              They are when they're all owned by different people with a multitude of agendas/attitudes. I don't think Murdoch is in charge of any of them.

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