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  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58786

    For Those of You on Your Way to Church This Morning...

    For Those of You on Your Way to Church This Morning...


    Friends,

    I'd like to have a word with those of you who call yourselves Christians (Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Bill Maherists, etc. can read along, too, as much of what I have to say, I'm sure, can be applied to your own spiritual/ethical values).

    In my new film I speak for the first time in one of my movies about my own spiritual beliefs. I have always believed that one's religious leanings are deeply personal and should be kept private. After all, we've heard enough yammerin' in the past three decades about how one should "behave," and I have to say I'm pretty burned out on pieties and platitudes considering we are a violent nation that invades other countries and punishes our own for having the audacity to fall on hard times.

    I'm also against any proselytizing; I certainly don't want you to join anything I belong to. Also, as a Catholic, I have much to say about the Church as an institution, but I'll leave that for another day (or movie).

    Amidst all the Wall Street bad guys and corrupt members of Congress exposed in Capitalism: A Love Story, I pose a simple question in the movie: "Is capitalism a sin?" I go on to ask, "Would Jesus be a capitalist?" Would he belong to a hedge fund? Would he sell short? Would he approve of a system that has allowed the richest 1 percent to have more financial wealth than the 95 percent under them combined?

    I have come to believe that there is no getting around the fact that capitalism is opposite everything that Jesus (and Moses and Mohammed and Buddha) taught. All the great religions are clear about one thing: It is evil to take the majority of the pie and leave what's left for everyone to fight over. Jesus said that the rich man would have a very hard time getting into heaven. He told us that we had to be our brother's and sister's keepers and that the riches that did exist were to be divided fairly. He said that if you failed to house the homeless and feed the hungry, you'd have a hard time finding the pin code to the pearly gates.

    I guess that's bad news for us Americans. Here's how we define "Blessed Are the Poor": We now have the highest unemployment rate since 1983. There's a foreclosure filing once every 7.5 seconds. 14,000 people every day lose their health insurance.

    At the same time, Wall Street bankers ("Blessed Are the Wealthy"?) are amassing more and more loot -- and they do their best to pay little or no income tax (last year Goldman Sachs' tax rate was a mere 1 percent!). Would Jesus approve of this? If not, why do we let such an evil system continue? It doesn't seem you can call yourself a Capitalist and a Christian -- because you cannot love your money and love your neighbor when you are denying your neighbor the ability to see a doctor just so you can have a better bottom line. That's called "immoral" -- and you are committing a sin when you benefit at the expense of others.

    When you are in church this morning, please think about this. I am asking you to allow your "better angels" to come forward. And if you are among the millions of Americans who are struggling to make it from week to week, please know that I promise to do what I can to stop this evil -- and I hope you'll join me in not giving up until everyone has a seat at the table.

    Thanks for listening. I'm off to Mass in a few hours. I'll be sure to ask the priest if he thinks J.C. deals in derivatives or credit default swaps. I mean, after all, he must've been good at math. How else did he divide up two loaves of bread and five pieces of fish equally amongst 5,000 people? Either he was the first socialist or his disciples were really bad at packing lunch. Or both.

    Yours,
    Michael Moore
    MMFlint@aol.com
    MichaelMoore.com


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  • standin
    Veteran
    • Apr 2009
    • 2274

    #2
    Thanks, I haven't checked my J~ in folder in quite some time. I would have missed that.
    To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.
    MICHAEL G. MULLEN

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    • Baby's On Fire
      Veteran
      • May 2004
      • 1747

      #3
      The man has a point. Well spoken. (Michael Moore I mean).

      What about us Heathens? Well this Heathen agrees with Michael Moore.

      He's simply fuckin' right.

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      • ELVIS
        Banned
        • Dec 2003
        • 44120

        #4
        No he's not, and Jesus has nothing to do with catholicism...

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        • Jesus Christ
          Veteran
          • Jan 2004
          • 2428

          #5
          Originally posted by ELVIS
          No he's not, and Jesus has nothing to do with catholicism...
          Gregory, why did ye need to go there?

          Verily I say unto you, as I said unto Joseph Smith when he asked Me in the 19th century, that all churches hath become corrupt and none are truly doing what I instructed My disciples to do. Including the one Joseph formed after that conversation.

          But ye should not judge My Catholic children as being worse than thine own church. For it will not be churches that stand before Me on the Last Day and giveth an accounting of their lives, it will be individuals.

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          • thome
            ROTH ARMY ELITE
            • Mar 2005
            • 6678

            #6
            I wonder how he feels about Chinch Bugs and Crab Grass..?

            Not enough controversy in those sentences.

            What if I inserted additional words like... God, Jesus, The Pope,and Every other religons name, across the world, and,.TA'DAH!.. "My New Movie..??"

            Do you think .................................................. ............?

            People would find it more interesting through, HYPE..?

            Bored lonely confused people?

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            • Seshmeister
              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

              • Oct 2003
              • 35193

              #7
              Originally posted by ELVIS
              No he's not, and Jesus has nothing to do with catholicism...
              So all the Christians in the world were wrong for 1500 years but some of them are right now?

              You base this on translations of the bible passed down by the people that were wrong and the bible is the only evidence of any of your religion being true.

              Interesting...
              Last edited by Seshmeister; 10-04-2009, 08:16 PM.

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              • ELVIS
                Banned
                • Dec 2003
                • 44120

                #8
                No, it's based on the pages that Martin Luther nailed on the door...

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                • Ally_Kat
                  ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 7612

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ELVIS
                  No, it's based on the pages that Martin Luther nailed on the door...
                  Um...those weren't about Jesus, either. They were about church politics and an abuse of power.
                  Roth Army Militia

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                  • Anonymous
                    Banned
                    • May 2004
                    • 12748

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Ally_Kat
                    Um...those weren't about Jesus, either. They were about church politics and an abuse of power.
                    Shh, don't contradict him... he may be dangerous.

                    Just back away slowly, and don't make eye contact.

                    Cheers! :bottle:

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                    • Little Texan
                      Full Member Status

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 4579

                      #11
                      Originally posted by thome
                      I wonder how he feels about Chinch Bugs and Crab Grass..?

                      Not enough controversy in those sentences.

                      What if I inserted additional words like... God, Jesus, The Pope,and Every other religons name, across the world, and,.TA'DAH!.. "My New Movie..??"

                      Do you think .................................................. ............?

                      People would find it more interesting through, HYPE..?

                      Bored lonely confused people?
                      You really should lay off the meth.

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                      • GAR
                        Banned
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 10871

                        #12
                        We saw the movie last nite, it was entertaining.. I'm sure FORD will post a review before I do so hop to it, Hop Singh!

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                        • GAR
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 10871

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Imapus_Sylicker
                          Shh, don't contradict him...
                          She doesn't!

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                          • ELVIS
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 44120

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ally_Kat
                            They were about church politics and an abuse of power.
                            Hmmm...

                            Things that Jesus would have nothing to do with ??

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                            • ELVIS
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 44120

                              #15
                              And BTW, in his writings, Luther accused the Catholic church of heresy, as well as directly challenging the position of the clergy in regard to individual salvation...

                              Salvation has everything to do with Jesus Christ...

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