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  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35212

    #16
    What do you know about the Jesus myth?

    You seem to interpret the story to mean that he was a right wing pro war money grabber.

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    • ELVIS
      Banned
      • Dec 2003
      • 44120

      #17
      How do you figure that ??

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      • Seshmeister
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Oct 2003
        • 35212

        #18
        It makes no sense to have your political views and then try and join them up to your religious superstitions.

        The Jesus doctrine is way too left wing for me, he was basically a communist.

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        • ELVIS
          Banned
          • Dec 2003
          • 44120

          #19
          Well, I find scripture to be conservative and logical...like me...

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          • Seshmeister
            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

            • Oct 2003
            • 35212

            #20
            You should go and read some of the writings of Marx, they are almost the same as the Jesus teachings.

            Jesus hated accumulation of wealth/entrepreneurial activity and advocated welfarism, the Bible denounces the acquisitiveness necessary to spur competition and heartily advocates collectivist statism as opposed to individualism, and the early Christian church was totally a socialist community. And the Bible is especially strident in its criticism of "interest," which is really synonymous with "profit."

            The great irony is America is a country where the majority of the people worship a Marxist.

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            • Coyote
              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
              • Jan 2004
              • 8185

              #21
              I'm still amused by this "religion vs rational thinking" match...
              Why settle for something you have, if it's not as good as something you're out to get?

              Originally posted by Seshmeister
              It's like putting up a YouTube of Bach and playing Chopstix on your Bontempi...

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              • Hardrock69
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Feb 2005
                • 21888

                #22
                Well as far as wealth vs. religion, just last week a discovery was announced of a bunch of old gold coins from ancient Egypt which had Joseph on them.


                Breaking news about Satellite from The Jerusalem Post. Read the latest updates on Satellite including articles, videos, opinions and more.



                Archeologists find 'Joseph-era' coins in Egypt

                Archeologists have discovered ancient Egyptian coins bearing the name and image of the biblical Joseph, Cairo's Al Ahram newspaper recently reported. Excerpts provided by MEMRI show that the coins were discovered among a multitude of unsorted artifacts stored at the Museum of Egypt.

                According to the report, the significance of the find is that archeologists have found scientific evidence countering the claim held by some historians that coins were not used for trade in ancient Egypt, and that this was done through barter instead.

                The period in which Joseph was regarded to have lived in Egypt matches the minting of the coins in the cache, researchers said.

                "A thorough examination revealed that the coins bore the year in which they were minted and their value, or effigies of the pharaohs [who ruled] at the time of their minting. Some of the coins are from the time when Joseph lived in Egypt, and bear his name and portrait," said the report.

                The discovery of the cache prompted research team head Dr. Sa'id Muhammad Thabet to seek Koranic verses that speak of coins used in ancient Egypt.

                "Studies by Dr. Thabet's team have revealed that what most archeologists took for a kind of charm, and others took for an ornament or adornment, is actually a coin. Several [facts led them to this conclusion]: first, [the fact that] many such coins have been found at various [archeological sites], and also [the fact that] they are round or oval in shape, and have two faces: one with an inscription, called the inscribed face, and one with an image, called the engraved face - just like the coins we use today," the report added.

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                • ELVIS
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 44120

                  #23
                  Jesus warns of the accumulation of wealth becoming your god. He never said wealth was bad. He said it was impossible to worship two gods. It's the same with idolatry...

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                  • ELVIS
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 44120

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Hardrock69
                    Well as far as wealth vs. religion, just last week a discovery was announced of a bunch of old gold coins from ancient Egypt which had Joseph on them.
                    I don't find that extrordinary...

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                    • Seshmeister
                      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                      • Oct 2003
                      • 35212

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Hardrock69
                      Well as far as wealth vs. religion, just last week a discovery was announced of a bunch of old gold coins from ancient Egypt which had Joseph on them.


                      Coins with Joseph's name found in Egypt | Middle East | Jerusalem Post
                      This is the coat of many colors Joe rather than the believe anything your adulterous wife tells you Joe.

                      As far as the pictures go if someone in the future found this note from 1896 would that mean this was a typical US family scene from the time and that there were angels around?

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                      • ELVIS
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 44120

                        #26
                        Duh! Which Way Did He Go, George ??

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                        • Big Train
                          Full Member Status

                          • Apr 2004
                          • 4013

                          #27
                          If capitalism is so bad, why wouldn't the good catholic stop participating in it so successfully? Hedge Funds-Bad. Moviemaking-fantastic.

                          Notice he has not intention of stopping what he is doing, returning the checks, or living like a monk. But the rest of us should really start reconsidering what we are doing....love it.

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                          • ZahZoo
                            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 8973

                            #28
                            Originally posted by ELVIS
                            Well, I find scripture to be conservative and logical...like me...
                            Hmmm I find a good part of it to be contradictive, misleading, nebulous and in many cases just plain jibberish. Nothing against the authors... it's the interpretors and bizzare sense of symbolism used as a communication form from those primitive cultures.

                            Odds are pretty good if there were a way to go back and correctly decipher the language, correctly interpret the context and then apply the mythical belief system at play... little of it would make much sense or find any application in today's world.

                            A large part of it was just a cultural value systems in it's infancy... I can only guess the mysticism and magic made it more appealing than other forms predating and following it... like buddism, greek and roman god things or many of the earth based belief systems outside of the middle east region.
                            "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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                            • Seshmeister
                              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                              • Oct 2003
                              • 35212

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Big Train
                              If capitalism is so bad, why wouldn't the good catholic stop participating in it so successfully? Hedge Funds-Bad. Moviemaking-fantastic.

                              Notice he has not intention of stopping what he is doing, returning the checks, or living like a monk. But the rest of us should really start reconsidering what we are doing....love it.


                              The Catholic church of course for hundreds of years was and still is a spectacularly successful money making machine.

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                              • Big Train
                                Full Member Status

                                • Apr 2004
                                • 4013

                                #30
                                No kidding...keep those sin taxes rolling in. The money and treasure that is buried, mgawd..

                                Makes total sense Moore is a Catholic.

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