Walgreens: no new Medicaid patients as of April 16 in WA State

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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10625

    Walgreens: no new Medicaid patients as of April 16 in WA State

    Walgreens: no new Medicaid patients as of April 16

    Walgreens will stop taking new Medicaid patients in Washington state as of April 16, saying it loses money filling their prescriptions.

    By Janet I. Tu

    Seattle Times staff reporter


    Effective April 16, Walgreens drugstores across the state won't take any new Medicaid patients, saying that filling their prescriptions is a money-losing proposition — the latest development in an ongoing dispute over Medicaid reimbursement.

    The company, which operates 121 stores in the state, will continue filling Medicaid prescriptions for current patients.

    In a news release, Walgreens said its decision to not take new Medicaid patients stemmed from a "continued reduction in reimbursement" under the state's Medicaid program, which reimburses it at less than the break-even point for 95 percent of brand-name medications dispensed to Medicaid patents.

    Walgreens follows Bartell Drugs, which stopped taking new Medicaid patients last month at all 57 of its stores in Washington, though it still fills Medicaid prescriptions for existing customers at all but 15 of those stores.

    Doug Porter, the state's director of Medicaid, said Medicaid recipients should be able to readily find another pharmacy because "we have many more pharmacy providers in our network than we need" for the state's 1 million Medicaid clients.

    He said those who can't can contact the state's Medical Assistance Customer Service Center at 1-800-562-3022 for help in locating one.

    Along with Walgreens and Bartell, the Ritzville Drug Company in Adams County announced in November that it would stop participating in Medicaid.

    Fred Meyer and Safeway said their pharmacies would continue to serve existing Medicaid patients and to take new ones, though both expressed concern that the reimbursement rate is too low for pharmacies to make a profit.

    The amount private insurers and Medicaid pay pharmacies for prescriptions isn't the actual cost of those drugs but rather is based on what's called the drug's estimated average wholesale price. But that figure is more like the sticker price on a car than its actual wholesale cost.

    Washington was reimbursing pharmacies 86 percent of a drug's average wholesale price until July, when it began paying them just 84 percent. While pharmacies weren't happy about the reimbursement reduction, the Department of Social and Health Services said that move was expected to save the state about $10 million.

    Then in September came another blow. The average wholesale price is calculated by a private company, which was accused in a Massachusetts lawsuit of fraudulently inflating its figures. The company did not admit wrongdoing but agreed in a court settlement to ratchet its figures down by about 4 percent.

    That agreement took effect in September — and prompted a lawsuit by a group of pharmacies and trade associations that said Washington state didn't follow federal law in setting its reimbursement rate, and that that rate is too low. The lawsuit is pending.

    "Washington state Medicaid is now reimbursing pharmacies less than their cost of participation," said Jeff Rochon, CEO of the Washington State Pharmacy Association.

    Pharmacies that continue to fill Medicaid prescriptions at the current state reimbursement rate are "at risk of putting themselves out of business altogether," he said.

    Information from Seattle Times archives was used in this report.
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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10625

    #2
    OK, Triple B comes clean:

    I believe in Medicaid, I really do.

    This article is one example why Republicans and Democrats need to work together for Health Care Reform instead of trying to score brownie points with the voters.

    What are they going to do, make an independent corporation take certain insurance from certain customers?
    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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    • hideyoursheep
      ROTH ARMY ELITE
      • Jan 2007
      • 6351

      #3
      Originally posted by BigBadBrian
      This article is one example why Republicans and Democrats need to work together for Health Care Reform instead of trying to score brownie points with the voters.
      This Reform bill won't score points with anyone with half a brain.

      Half-assed reform isn't reform, it's half-assed.

      How does Hillary feel about this bill? Does it bear any resemblance to her blueprint for healthcare reform?

      I imagine not.

      If she were elected, her plan would have been hacked to pieces as well.


      Fucking politicians....Comp them and get a golden parachute in return.

      WE pay their inflated salaries with OUR money, and they listen to the highest bidder.
      Last edited by hideyoursheep; 03-18-2010, 07:10 AM.

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      • hideyoursheep
        ROTH ARMY ELITE
        • Jan 2007
        • 6351

        #4
        ....in addition, there are some doctors' offices that refuse to take any new patients, but it had nothing to do with medicare or any of that, so that's really nothing new.

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        • ELVIS
          Banned
          • Dec 2003
          • 44120

          #5
          Medicaid and Medicare are two entirely different things...

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          • Nitro Express
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 32798

            #6
            What I find pathetic is certain politicians are using the crises of skyrocketing healthcare prices and using the citizens concern as leverage to ram through legislation which isn't reform at all. What they are trying to pass is a scam where the government will force you to pay the corporations who are partly responsible for the problem in the first place. So what will happen is companies will just pay the government fine because it's cheaper than the insurance and someone will pocket a lot of money and nobody will have coverage. Plus, it put non elected beurocrats in charge of the whole system.

            Obamacare is NOT socialized medicine at all, if people think it is they are mistaken.
            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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            • sadaist
              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
              • Jul 2004
              • 11625

              #7
              Originally posted by Nitro Express

              Obamacare is NOT socialized medicine at all, if people think it is they are mistaken.

              Not at is is currently written. But Obama himself, and many other Democrats have clearly stated this is just to open the door. Their ultimate goal being exactly that.
              “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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              • Nitro Express
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 32798

                #8
                What we need is price regulation. When prices skyrocket way past what the global market rate for a product or service is, you clearly have a monopoly situation. So there needs to be some price regulation like we have on utility companies. Also tort reform to keep fraudulent lawsuits at bay. We don't need to take the system over, we just need price caps, because Americans are being price gouged on drugs and insurance.

                Compare the healthcare industry with the high tech industry. Both have substantial R&D but the high tech industry gives us better products each year for less money. The healthcare industry jack the prices up and give us less. Last I checked Intel, Microsoft, and Apple were doing just fine and they don't screw the customer like healthcare does. Someone is making huge profit margins.
                No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                • Nitro Express
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 32798

                  #9
                  Originally posted by sadaist
                  Not at is is currently written. But Obama himself, and many other Democrats have clearly stated this is just to open the door. Their ultimate goal being exactly that.
                  Ha! ha! ha! Yeah right. They just want to sign it into law and then they have what they want. Power and control. If they really wanted to reform it, they would systematically pick problem areas to deal with. They just want to take the whole system over and not regulate a thing.

                  Whenever lawmakers are in a big hurry to pass something and they vote over weekends and holidays, the result is never good. Hurry and weekend voting got us the Federal Reserve Act and into a war in Iraq. If the politicians are in a desperate hurry someone behind the scenes is bribing them enough to really motivate them.

                  I'm afraid no real reform is going to happen with the current bunch in Washington. They are too corrupt.
                  No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                  • Nitro Express
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 32798

                    #10
                    The last time the president was in a hurry it was about getting those weapons of mass destruction. Remember that? Now the current president is in a mad crazy hurry to sign anything into law. If he really cares, pick one problem. Let's say overpriced pharmacuticals. But of course he's not going to do that, they are big contributors to his campaign fund.
                    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                    • Nitro Express
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 32798

                      #11
                      Oh. Let's not forget the bankers bailout. Hurry, hurry, hurry! The sky is falling, we need to do something! Then billions go off shore and they won't tell us where our tax money went. Nice.
                      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                      • FORD
                        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 58786

                        #12
                        Originally posted by hideyoursheep
                        This Reform bill won't score points with anyone with half a brain.

                        Half-assed reform isn't reform, it's half-assed.

                        How does Hillary feel about this bill? Does it bear any resemblance to her blueprint for healthcare reform?

                        I imagine not.

                        If she were elected, her plan would have been hacked to pieces as well.
                        Hillary's 2008 campaign plan started with corporate mandates. It probably would have been far worse in the end.

                        They should have never let the Senate Finance committee have anything to do with a health care bill. It was the pigfuckers like Baucus and Conrad who doomed this from the minute they touched it.
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                        • Nitro Express
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 32798

                          #13
                          Originally posted by FORD
                          Hillary's 2008 campaign plan started with corporate mandates. It probably would have been far worse in the end.

                          They should have never let the Senate Finance committee have anything to do with a health care bill. It was the pigfuckers like Baucus and Conrad who doomed this from the minute they touched it.
                          Nothing of substance comes from pig fucking so we need to get rid of the pig fuckers. I'm afraid we are going to have a half-term with a lame duck president with a bunch of newly elected Republicans stone walling him until 2012. The Republicans blew it with Bush and the Democrats blew it with Obama and Pelosi. Frankly I don't trust either camp. Both are corrupt.
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                          • Kristy
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 16338

                            #14
                            Originally posted by hideyoursheep
                            ....in addition, there are some doctors' offices that refuse to take any new patients, but it had nothing to do with medicare or any of that, so that's really nothing new.
                            Yeah, comes down to two things: money and insurance fraud. Doctors won't touch a patient who they consider to be a liability risk to them if they know they go to several clinics looking for medical care only to file a suit against them later on for what the patient considers to be inadequate treatment.This is why they ask for I.D. prior to them seeing you so they can run a background check And there is no way a doctor will even give you a head nod for treatment if you walked into a emergency room with a severed limb unless you had an insurance carrier or several greenbacks in hand.

                            The days of altruistic medicine are long over. I can understand physicians wanting to protect their ass from libel suits with the outrageous malpractice fees they pay when a suit can be brought before them for anything but to refuse the sick, the desperate and under or non-insured at all disgust me. Health care in this country is going to turn into a divided social structure of the haves and the totally fucked if the insurance corporations and the politicians they bought have placed in their back pocket keep on running it into the ground. This is why all the teabaggers and their unfounded paranoia of government control of health care piss me off. The whole system needs to gutted and revamped from both sides otherwise this might be a good time to go cynical and start investing into the funeral business for the mortality rate in this country is going to soar for those who can't afford to see a physician.

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32798

                              #15
                              Medicade and medicare also result in a HUGE amount of paperwork. I have to use respiratory equipment and my medical supplier has a staff of six people just to deal with the insurance paperwork for their pharmacy and medical equipment business. The cost of dealing with insurance paperwork in your average medical office is 20-30% of the overhead.

                              I can see businesses dropping Medicare and Medicade to save on the office expense of dealing with all the paperwork both generate. In fact some medical clinics have gone to a cash basis only. They don't accept any insurance and you have to pay in cash. They are price competative because by getting rid of the insurance they just cut 20-30% of their overhead and can pass the savings onto the customer.
                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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