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  • Mr Walker
    Crazy Ass Mofo
    • Jan 2004
    • 2536

    Fringe

    Great night to climb on board... tonight's episode looks to be a standout. Plus, Nimoy just said on twitter he'll be returning as Walter's old pal William Bell. Right now Fringe and Justified are the only 2 shows that are appointment viewing for me... oh, and Big Love too.
  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58783

    #2
    I thought old Spock said he was done after the end of last season. Guess he thought he was needed to tie up some "illogical" loose ends concerning his alternate universe.
    Eat Us And Smile

    Cenk For America 2024!!

    Justice Democrats


    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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    • Mr Walker
      Crazy Ass Mofo
      • Jan 2004
      • 2536

      #3
      TheRealNimoy Leonard Nimoy
      Coming to Fringe. William's bell rings soon. LLAP


      They've been dropping hints... finding the Dr. Spock book in bell's safe and the comment on how Bell developed 'soul magnets' so he can make contact from the other side, uh not Earth 2 with all the Zeppelins, the real other side.

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      • chefcraig
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Apr 2004
        • 12172

        #4
        Although a new episode, from what I've gathered tonight's episode is a flashback, centering on Olivia and Peter in their youth, before they became united in the present.









        “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
        ― Stephen Hawking

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        • Mr Walker
          Crazy Ass Mofo
          • Jan 2004
          • 2536

          #5
          That's why it's a good night for people to jump in to the series... tonight is a follow up to Season 2's 'Peter' episode.

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          • chefcraig
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Apr 2004
            • 12172

            #6
            In a way, I believe the show lost a great deal with the introduction of this alternate Earth plot line. The idea of having the opening credits either normal or tinted red to clue people in as to what they are going to see points to how unnecessarily complicated things have become, instead of the more simpler "X-Files" stories the show started out with. And now Olivia is pregnant in the other time line with Peter's child? Sheeest.









            “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
            ― Stephen Hawking

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 58783

              #7
              Originally posted by chefcraig
              In a way, I believe the show lost a great deal with the introduction of this alternate Earth plot line. The idea of having the opening credits either normal or tinted red to clue people in as to what they are going to see points to how unnecessarily complicated things have become, instead of the more simpler "X-Files" stories the show started out with. And now Olivia is pregnant in the other time line with Peter's child? Sheeest.
              And last night they had 80's retro opening credits, since the show was set in Olivia & Peter's childhoods.

              And after watching it, I'm as confused as ever. So Olivia developed her abilities to cross over to the other world because her stepfather beat the shit out of her??

              And if Peter knew back then that Walter and Mrs. Walter were not his parents, how did he forget, because adult Peter had no clue until the end of last season.

              And if Walternate created the Star Wars system (presumably one that actually worked) on BizarroEarth, and their technology is apparently better over there, then why the Hell are they flying around in blimps?
              Eat Us And Smile

              Cenk For America 2024!!

              Justice Democrats


              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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              • chefcraig
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Apr 2004
                • 12172

                #8
                The forgetfulness requires a bizarre suspension of disbelief. If this is to make sense, Olivia and Peter both somehow "forgot" the existence of each other. So what happened, were they hypnotized or drank some sort of serum? And if Olivia materialized in the other world in order to tip off Walternate as to what was going on, wouldn't he have fostered some sort of relationship with the other Olivia in order to access the other world long before now? I mean, it was his son that was kidnapped, after all.

                Another thing, the space shuttle on the launch pad in the background. According to the time line, could that have been the ill-fated Challenger? It couldn't have been SDI, as that program took place about three years earlier, at least in our world.
                Last edited by chefcraig; 02-26-2011, 01:58 PM.









                “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                ― Stephen Hawking

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                • Mr Walker
                  Crazy Ass Mofo
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 2536

                  #9
                  My bad... last night's episode wasn't so great.

                  Best lines from the series so far...
                  Walter Bishop: Peter, don't be such a prude. I'm sure Agent Dunham knows what a penis looks like. Don't you agent Dunham?

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                  • chefcraig
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 12172

                    #10
                    I just hate it when new clues or details are introduced that subvert or contradict earlier ones, because you get the feeling that the creators are pulling things out of a hat, making up the show's mythology as they go along. You'd think that the lesson of Twin Peaks would come to mind, but apparently it doesn't. Look at LOST, which was not so coincidentally another J. J. Abrams production.
                    Last edited by chefcraig; 02-26-2011, 03:26 PM. Reason: spell









                    “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                    ― Stephen Hawking

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                    • Mr Walker
                      Crazy Ass Mofo
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 2536

                      #11
                      Originally posted by chefcraig
                      The forgetfulness requires a bizarre suspension of disbelief. If this is to make sense, Olivia and Peter both somehow "forgot" the existence of each other. So what happened, were they hypnotized or drank some sort of serum? And if Olivia materialized in the other world in order to tip off Walternate as to what was going on, wouldn't he have fostered some sort of relationship with the other Olivia in order to access the other world long before now? I mean, it was his son that was kidnapped, after all.
                      Looks like this will be part of the storyline... something along the lines of them having had their brains wiped by Mr Spock... the same way he cut out part of Walter's brain.

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                      • FORD
                        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 58783

                        #12
                        Vulcan mind meld?
                        Eat Us And Smile

                        Cenk For America 2024!!

                        Justice Democrats


                        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                        • chefcraig
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 12172

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Mr Walker
                          Looks like this will be part of the storyline... something along the lines of them having had their brains wiped by Mr Spock... the same way he cut out part of Walter's brain.
                          Obviously he must have perfected the art on Walter, whom he turned into a drooling lunatic and wound up in a nuthouse, while Peter and Olivia seem to be functioning adults. It's a shame the show appears to have been put out to pasture by scheduling it on Friday nights. Then again, there were what, three episodes of American Idol this week, which should tell you where FOX's priorities lie.









                          “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                          ― Stephen Hawking

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                          • chefcraig
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 12172

                            #14
                            Oh, great: "FRINGE will not be seen this week as FOX brings you the 42nd Annual NAACP Image Awards."









                            “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                            ― Stephen Hawking

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                            • Mr Walker
                              Crazy Ass Mofo
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 2536

                              #15
                              'Fringe' Gets Renewed for a Fourth Season
                              by Harley W. Lond, posted Mar 24th 2011 11:52PM

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                              Fox's 'Fringe' may be on the fringe of Friday night viewing, but that hasn't stopped the network from renewing the series for a fourth season -- and with a vote-of-confidence order of 22 episodes.

                              The sci-fi show -- from J.J. Abrams, Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman -- has been pushed about from night to night by Fox; it debuted on Tuesdays, moved to Thursdays and recently was shunted to Friday, where its low ratings got even lower. The show garnered a series low 1.3 rating in the 18-49 demographic in its most recent episode -- down 13 percent from the previous week -- with a viewership of 3.6 million, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

                              But according to Deadline, Fox was high on the series' creative direction and upbeat about its chances. Additionally, the show does well with DVR numbers.

                              'Fringe' executive producer J.H. Wyman noted the renewal on his Twitter account: "Fringe was picked up!!!! Thanks Fringedom!"

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