Hippy Gov vs Trump Administration

[jacksmar]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/26/us/california-climate-change-jerry-brown-donald-trump.html?_r=0

California, at Forefront of Climate Fight, Won’t Back Down to Trump

“We’ve got the lawyers and we’ve got the scientists and are ready to fight,” Mr. Brown declared in a speech in San Francisco earlier this month to the American Geophysical Union. “We’re ready to win.”

[qikgts]

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2016/12/27/kasich-energy-legislation.html

Kasich Vetoes Bill Weakening Clean-Energy Standards

Gov. John Kasich has vetoed a bill that would weaken the state's clean-energy standards, saying that the measure "amounts to self-inflicted damage to both our state's near- and long-term economic competitiveness."

[FORD]

Wow, even a life-long ALEC member like Kasich is finally waking up to the reality of climate change. Is it too late for him to accept the Trump kids' offer and put him in as "vice" President instead of Pence?

Sure, he would still be wrong on most other things, but at this point even partial sanity would be an upgrade.

[twonabomber]

Supposedly we're getting wind turbines out on the lake. Contractors and component manufacturers are already lining up.

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2016/12/leedcos_icebreaker_still_regis_1.html

[FORD]

It's really too bad that they can't find somebody locally (or at least from somewhere in Ohio) who can build them, rather than hiring a bunch of Norwegians to do it. Not that the Norwegians wouldn't do quality work, more than likely, but boosting the local economy should be as much as a benefit from energy & infrastructure projects as the clean energy itself is.

[twonabomber]

That was my first thought but I guess there is a big turbine installation in Norway that the same company built. I don't think I'd want First Energy handling this project. They have enough trouble with their nuke plants.

They're planning on having the components made in state. When Cedar Point has a new coaster built the tracks are made at a shop near Cincinnati.

[jacksmar]

[Seshmeister]

That was my first thought but I guess there is a big turbine installation in Norway that the same company built. I don't think I'd want First Energy handling this project. They have enough trouble with their nuke plants.

They're planning on having the components made in state. When Cedar Point has a new coaster built the tracks are made at a shop near Cincinnati.

Norway funded a massive renewable program by selling billions of barrels of their oil to other countries as though they somehow live on a different planet.

I guess their argument would be that the benefits will come in the future and selling their tech to us now would be part of that.

[Nickdfresh]

Supposedly we're getting wind turbines out on the lake. Contractors and component manufacturers are already lining up.

http://www.cleveland.com/business/in...l_regis_1.html

Been here for a awhile...

[twonabomber]

I've seen those on the way to TO.

The turbines here will be 7 to 10 miles off downtown Cleveland.

[jacksmar]

Gov moonbeam: Bankrupt California leftists vow to fight Trump with the last dime of your money.

bullshit facts and bullshit evidence and repeating the same bullshit mantra over and over again.......(cow farts)

if it's settled science, pull all the grant money from the universities and research labs.



And.........
has anyone noticed the large number of backyard barbecuing, smoking car driving, tv watching, water drinking illegal aliens, that contribute to global warming? Does that just happen in miami?

[Seshmeister]

I'm so sorry, this is just terrible and a shameful indictment on the US education system.

You can at least read and write which is something, can I ask what education did you get?

[jacksmar]

I'm so sorry, this is just terrible and a shameful indictment on the US education system.

You can at least read and write which is something, can I ask what education did you get?

Your inability to see the humor in the poor grammar and improper sentences is a direct reflection of a simpleton taking himself too seriously. As usual, you didn't address the issue and took issue with an education system that has produced the finest minority criminals and illiterate malcontents.

As to my education, I have worthless computer engineering degree and a minor degree as a business major. Both of these degrees were denigrated by one of the site moderators.

In 2008, I shuttered a business in Tampa due to the incoming administration and their socialist view of how I earned my my living and chose to distribute company earnings. For example, the Gibson Guitar company experienced the same adjudication I would have been subjected to and this was due to their political ideology with regard to Gibson's principled and well founded beliefs.


Save the feigned indignation for the leftists that have no goals and are dependent on public tax dollars for their existence but more importantly have allowed their lives to be affected by the judgement of others and their collective opinions.

[jacksmar]

following up that self serving diatribe..........

just to recap the bullshit...........

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/And-global-COOLING-Return-Arctic-ice-cap-grows-29-year.html

And now it's global COOLING! Return of Arctic ice cap as it grows by 29% in a year

533,000 more square miles of ocean covered with ice than in 2012

BBC reported in 2007 global warming would leave Arctic ice-free in summer by 2013

Publication of UN climate change report suggesting global warming caused by humans pushed back to later this month

A chilly Arctic summer has left 533,000 more square miles of ocean covered with ice than at the same time last year – an increase of 29 per cent.

The rebound from 2012’s record low comes six years after the BBC reported that global warming would leave the Arctic ice-free in summer by 2013.

[Seshmeister]

Why are you pulling an article from 3 years ago in the Daily Mail (the UK National Enquirer) about Artic ice coverage when it is currently at the lowest it's ever been?

You are not a climate scientist and neither am I. Where your education system has failed you is that you don't know how the scientific method works. You don't understand global science and how it is funded and by whom. You don't understand the motivation of scientists and you refuse to consider that fossil fuel companies have been campaigning and feeding propaganda and doubt into the system.

If we had the internet in the 1970s you would have been the guy shouting that lung cancer caused by smoking was a hoax and just an excuse to tax cigarettes.