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[ALinChainz]

Wow ... all you can say ...

[POJO_Risin]

Manning calls Vanderjagt an 'idiot kicker'

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Associated Press


HONOLULU -- Peyton Manning called teammate Mike Vanderjagt an "idiot kicker" at the Pro Bowl on Sunday, three days after Vanderjagt apologized for making disparaging remarks about the Indianapolis Colts quarterback.

Colts would save money
if they punted Vanderjagt
Some Colts officials are almost as surprised by Peyton Manning's comments about kicker Mike Vanderjagt as they were by Vanderjagt's original statements.

The Colts have not said publicly whether Vanderjagt will be welcomed back to the team after his criticisms of Manning and head coach Tony Dungy. One thing is certain: There are no cap implications that would prevent the Colts from releasing or trading Vanderjagt.

In fact, they would save money.

Vanderjagt is signed through 2005 on a $7.75 million, five-year extension he received in 2000. That deal made him the NFL's highest-paid kicker at the time.

If Vanderjagt were to be released before June 1, the Colts would actually save $900,000 against the cap for 2003. That would also be true if here were traded at any time. If he were to be released after June 1, the Colts would save $1.4 million against the cap. The team also would save significant money against the cap in 2004 and '05.

The Colts do have another kicker signed. Even before Vanderjagt opened his mouth, the Colts had signed Brett Conway for two years with a $50,000 signing bonus and base salaries of $530,000 in 2003 and $535,000 in 2004.

Obviously, he's a lot cheaper than Vanderjagt, but there is a large gap between the two kickers' performance levels.
-- Len Pasquarelli, ESPN.com

Manning made the comment during a live interview on ABC. He also claimed Vanderjagt was "liquored up" at the time of the Canadian cable TV interview earlier this week in which he said Manning should show more emotion.

"Here we are," Manning said. "I'm out at my third Pro Bowl, I'm about to go in and throw a touchdown to Jerry Rice, we're honoring the Hall of Fame, and we're talking about our idiot kicker who got liquored up and ran his mouth off.

"The sad thing is, he's a good kicker. He's a good kicker. But he's an idiot."

A message from The Associated Press was left at the office of Vanderjagt's agent, Gil Scott, on Monday.

Vanderjagt also criticized Colts coach Tony Dungy in the interview with The Score, a Toronto-based cable sports network.

"I'm not a real big Colts fan right now, unfortunately. I just don't see us getting better," Vanderjagt said during the interview.

"Coach Dungy, he's just a mild-mannered guy. He doesn't get too excited, he doesn't get too down and I don't think that works, either. ... I think you need a motivator, I think you need a guy that is going to get in somebody's face when they're not performing well enough."

Dungy said late last week that Vanderjagt's future with the Colts rested with the veteran kicker.

"It's not in doubt because of what he said," Dungy said.

Vanderjagt, the most accurate field-goal kicker in NFL history, apologized Thursday to Dungy, Manning and the rest of his teammates. He signed a $7.75 million, five-year contract extension with the Colts in November 2000 -- at the time making him the league's highest-paid kicker.

"When I get home, I'll deal with it," Manning said. "If he is still a teammate, we'll deal with it. That remains to be seen."

[Rebel]

well fuck it

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Mr. Vengeance
I imagine Manning wants to stab VanderFuck in the heart right now...

Fuck MANNING! He shouldn't have gone for it all then. Same thing as with the BILLS in 91.'

He could've gotten' closer...

And where was he the first three-qtrs.?

[Mr. Vengeance]

How long before Archie Manning opens his big mouth and starts calling for the kicker to be cut, or his son wants a trade???

[POJO_Risin]

Props to Tony Dungy...hope his off season finds him some fucking peace...

[Rebel]

never have liked the fuck, he acts like he's the greatest kicker ever

first "real" kick he's had, and look what he does

[POJO_Risin]

His contract is up this year...

he won't be back...

[Mr. Vengeance]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Fuck MANNING! He shouldn't have gone for it all then. Same thing as with the BILLS in 91.'

He could've gotten' closer...

And where was he the first three-qtrs.?

He's not calling the plays...They could have been 15 yards closer and he'd have missed on that kick.

[Rebel]

Originally posted by Mr. Vengeance
How long before Archie Manning opens his big mouth and starts calling for the kicker to be cut, or his son wants a trade???

fucker should be cut, he's paid, paid very well, to make those

[Rikk]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH...

My thoughts exactly.

Fucking bullshit. I should be happy, but I'm just fucking mad.

[Rebel]

well fuck him, Peyton should kick his homo ass

[Mr. Vengeance]

Originally posted by Rebel
fucker should be cut, he's paid, paid very well, to make those

yeah, but I'm waiting for Archie Manning to get his old ass involved.

[POJO_Risin]

I think he said, "Manning and Dungy are to laid back to ever win anything..."

or something like that...

well...I guess you can add his name to the list...

wow...

stupid last 10 minutes...

[Mr. Vengeance]

It's good because my team isn't in the playoffs and I want everyone else to experience the same pain I do year after year.