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  • POJO_Risin
    Roth Army Caesar
    • Mar 2003
    • 40648

    Keyshawn Johnson and Steve Smith

    Well...they may very well be...when it's all said and done...

    and wow...Key had 1 FUCKING DROP ALL SEASON LAST YEAR...WITH BLEDSOE THROWING HIM THE BALL...

    that's plain sick...

    This could be the piece Carolina needs to get to the bowl...

    that and a healthy RB...

    any better receiving tandems you can think of...

    that don't include a rookie...
    "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."
  • POJO_Risin
    Roth Army Caesar
    • Mar 2003
    • 40648

    #2
    Of course...they may end up killing each other as well...
    "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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    • POJO_Risin
      Roth Army Caesar
      • Mar 2003
      • 40648

      #3
      Panthers' Henning welcomes inevitable receiver friction
      May 30, 2006
      By Clark Judge
      CBS SportsLine.com Senior Writer

      The Carolina Panthers resume organized practices Wednesday, which means wide receivers Keyshawn Johnson and Steve Smith can start getting used to sharing the same huddle. Now the question: Can they get used to sharing the same ball?

      Probably not, said offensive coordinator Dan Henning. But listen to him, and you realize that might not be a bad thing.


      Keyshawn Johnson, Dallas' No. 1 receiver in '05, had two of his best years under Dan Henning. (Getty Images)
      "There are going to be some blowups on occasion, and most of the time they're going to explode at me," said Henning. "That goes on with everybody. But I'd rather do it with guys who can get the job done."

      That's no problem here. Smith set career highs last season with a league-leading 103 catches, 1,563 yards and 13 touchdowns.

      But Johnson can get the job done, too. He led Dallas in receiving last year, had a career-high 106 catches at Tampa Bay and had 83 and 89 receptions in the two seasons he and Henning were together at the New York Jets.

      Those were the days when Johnson stood behind a memoir entitled Just Give Me the Damn Ball!, a demand that once summed up his offensive philosophy. But making that happen will be tough -- impossible -- when that offense includes an All-Pro wide receiver.

      Which is where Henning comes in. He decides who gets the ball and how often, which means he decides how much or how little Johnson and Smith are used. It's a tricky position, but Henning is the right man for the job.

      He has experience with both receivers. He's smart. He's tough. And he's accomplished, having gone to Super Bowls with Washington and Carolina. Most important, Henning is a man of conviction. He has a formula that works, and he sticks to it -- even when it means someone isn't happy.

      "First of all, there are not enough balls for Steve Smith," he said. "He's never happy, but that's just the way it goes. Now, I know Keyshawn and what he expects, and he's never happy, either.

      "But the point is: They're what we need, and it's better to have something when you need it -- sort of like having an umbrella if you get caught in the rain. It's what you need. And the key thing here for both these guys is that all they want to do is win.

      "We're not about numbers. We're not about being the No.1-ranked offense. This is about making us a better team."

      Henning is convinced that adding Johnson does just that. So am I. Not only because Johnson is better than anything the Panthers have at the spot opposite Smith, but because Henning has a history with him -- with Johnson enjoying the experience so much he cited Henning as a reason for signing with Carolina.

      "He and I have a definite understanding of our positions and what is expected of us," said Henning. "And we expect that of each other. This is a big-time competitor, and we thought he was just what we needed."


      Steve Smith is coming off an All-Pro season when he set career highs in catches, yards and TDs. (Getty Images)
      I'll second that, with last year's playoffs as the evidence. The Panthers advanced to the NFC Championship Game, with Smith leading the parade. But that was the problem. Smith not only was the team's most effective weapon; he was the only weapon, responsible for half of the team's receptions, five of its seven touchdowns and 38 percent of its offense.

      When Seattle met the Panthers in the conference championship game, the Seahawks aimed their defense at stopping one guy, and Carolina was helpless to respond. That experience convinced the Panthers brain trust it had to give Smith help, which is where Keyshawn comes in.

      The Panthers identified wide receiver as a position of need but weren't convinced they could find help -- especially immediate help -- through the draft. That caused them to look at free-agency, where the choices were limited as well ... until, of course, Johnson came along.

      "When Dallas became enamored with (Terrell Owens) and dropped Keyshawn, we thought we had a chance at the best guy of the entire group of receivers," said Henning.

      It wasn't just that Johnson was productive, with the Panthers counting only one drop by him last season; it's that he seems to have matured. Those aren't my words. They're the words of general manager Marty Hurney, who interviewed Johnson before offering him a contract and who believes the temperament of the Panthers' newest wide receiver can help the club on and off the field.

      "I think Keyshawn and Steve Smith have one thing in common," said Hurney, "and that's that they both want to win and understand when you win good things happen. They're both 'team guys,' and that's a bond that will keep everyone together."

      That might explain why Smith telephoned Johnson before his signing with the Panthers. In essence, he told Keyshawn he should join the Panthers, and he had to know it would cost him catches. But he also had to know it would improve his chances of reaching the Super Bowl again.

      "We like what we have here," said Henning. "This is one of those moves that could help you sleep at night."
      "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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      • DlocRoth
        ROCKSTAR

        • Jan 2004
        • 5521

        #4
        Harrison and Wayne?

        T.O. and Glenn?
        Fuck Scott Weiland. Fucking asshole. I get trashed all the time and still go to work. And my job sucks ass. -ODShowtime

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        • knuckleboner
          Crazy Ass Mofo
          • Jan 2004
          • 2927

          #5
          santana moss & randal-el? (or brandon lloyd...)

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          • POJO_Risin
            Roth Army Caesar
            • Mar 2003
            • 40648

            #6
            Harrison and Wayne...yes...

            TO and Glenn...maybe equals...

            Moss and Randle El...no way...and Lloyd...triple no...
            "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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            • VHdamaco
              Foot Soldier
              • Nov 2004
              • 635

              #7
              triple no on the moss, randle el and lloyd?...

              its the smurfs of 2006, except these guys are a hell of a lot faster and more talented than the old smurfs...

              assuming brunell can get the ball to them (i know, a BIG if) we're gonna put up HUGE numbers this season...
              Don't FUCK With Greatness...

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              • Troy
                ROTH ARMY ELITE
                • Jan 2004
                • 6971

                #8
                Pojo... you let me down. Do I even need to mention my vote for best receiving tandem???
                Last edited by Troy; 06-02-2006, 03:13 AM.

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                • knuckleboner
                  Crazy Ass Mofo
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 2927

                  #9
                  Originally posted by VHdamaco
                  we're gonna put up HUGE numbers this season...
                  damn straight.

                  gotta have a healthy respect for portis and the ground game. then add in cooley coming out of the backfield/off the line?
                  you can't stop the skins passing attack. (unless your name is brunell. then, yes, maybe you can...)

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                  • ALinChainz
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 12100

                    #10
                    According to the numbers, I'd say that Boldin and Fitzgerald are the best at the moment.

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                    • VHdamaco
                      Foot Soldier
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 635

                      #11
                      thats right...

                      i totally forgot about those two, then again, being out in AZ, it ain't hard to forget about them...

                      if they can get a decent line in front of leinart when he takes over, look the fuck out...
                      Don't FUCK With Greatness...

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                      • jcook11
                        Commando
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 1281

                        #12
                        Originally posted by POJO_Risin
                        Of course...they may end up killing each other as well...
                        More than likely PJR....Let's see how "Me!shaun" acts.

                        Moss and Porter "Just Win Baby!"

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                        • POJO_Risin
                          Roth Army Caesar
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 40648

                          #13
                          I cannot even fathom that actual Redskin fans bastardized the Smurfs...by bringing up Randle El and Lloyd in the same breath...

                          utterly fucking ridiculous...

                          guys like 5'9 Gary Clark...

                          guys like 5'10 Charlie Brown...more a fun bunch guy...but fits the smurf mold...

                          guys like 5'11 Ricky Sanders...

                          And Monk as Papa Smurf...6'3"...but always the constant on that team...

                          when Clark, Sanders and Papa Smurf were roaming at the same time...to say that those three guys...

                          A. Have more talent (all those guys had 1,000 yard years, and one year...Clark, Sanders and Monk had 1,000 in the SAME year--when you consider Randle El has never had 1,000 yards, or even 50 receptions in a season...and neither has Lloyd)

                          B. Are faster (relative considering speed wasn't necesarily an issue with those guys...I think overall...players are faster now)

                          C. Moss...is as good or better than some of those "Smurfs." The other two...are far from it...and Brunell certainly will be a reason...

                          No offense here...but that statement is totally erroneous...

                          I get being hopeful...but don't rot out your tradition bro...

                          lmfao...
                          "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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                          • POJO_Risin
                            Roth Army Caesar
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 40648

                            #14
                            Okay...here are the numbers...from last year...

                            Key and SS: 174 receptions for 2401 yards

                            Holt and Bruce: 138 receptions for 1856 yards

                            Holt and Curtis: 162 reception for 2132 yards

                            Harrison and Wayne: 165 receptions for 2201 yards

                            Wow...

                            Fitz and Boldin: 205 receptions for 2,811 yards...

                            It would be something to see Warner stay healthy for a year out there...
                            "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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                            • SA ME WHO
                              Roadie
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 176

                              #15
                              Hey don't forget about the Browns sizzling tandem of Braylon Edwards and .............................................. um ....................................... um ................................ wide receiver B (whoever gets the job that week, usually Dennis Northcutt).

                              Braylon could be something special if he stays healthy, has a servicable QB to get him the ball, and the Browns have enough of a threat of a running game to keep him from getting double-teamed every play of the year. Definitely would love to see the Browns pick up a free agent veteran soon though to take workload off of Edwards and also school him on some of the finer points of being an NFL receiever. Hopefully KW II can figure out a way to actually make it on the field (or for longer than a cup of coffee) to help too.

                              Being a Browns fan RULES!

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