The Army Boxing Thread

[binnie]

You said he was going to 'nick it on points' 4 posts ago!

[vandeleur]

Yeah ... I spent that long checking out odds and reading about the fight ... I changed my mind a dozen times ... Am sticking with a late round stoppage ... Watch this space for another u turn in 4 posts time ,.... OR I could stop watching u tube and reading up on the fight before I totally go round the twist

[Dave's Bitch]

Kessler by KO in 10

Green has a punchers chance up until the mid rounds.Then he will take a beating.Green will have to go for it as no way he get's a point's win in Denmark

[binnie]

It all depends on how much Kessler has left and whether the layoff has affected him.

I guess we'll find out!

[vandeleur]

plus i think its more fun to pick rounds ....... ( plus four posts = many stella )

[vandeleur]

the odds for green getting a knockout are wild ... 66-1 for most rounds .. which is crazy in a two horse race with somoeone who is supposed to pack a punch

[vandeleur]

interesting watching some green stuff on utube , glen johnson looked ok against him and knocked him out and then got beat off both bute and froch.

[binnie]

That's because Green is a chump.

[Dave's Bitch]

I would not say either guy is a grade A fighter personally.I would say Kessler is a B+ and Green a B-.Green has talked a good game but claims Kessler has bad defence.Now,My problem with this coming from green is the implication that Green is some kind of defensive genius.Neither of them have particularly good defence but of the two Kessler is better.Green also lacks mental stamina.The early rounds he will probably look ok but as the mid rounds grind on and we get to later rounds his head will be all over the place and Kessler will lick him (I love old boxing terminology )

[vandeleur]

the more i watched these two last night ... the more froch bute looked tastey

[Dave's Bitch]

I would not say either guy is a grade A fighter personally.I would say Kessler is a B+ and Green a B-.Green has talked a good game but claims Kessler has bad defence.Now,My problem with this coming from green is the implication that Green is some kind of defensive genius.Neither of them have particularly good defence but of the two Kessler is better.Green also lacks mental stamina.The early rounds he will probably look ok but as the mid rounds grind on and we get to later rounds his head will be all over the place and Kessler will lick him (I love old boxing terminology )

Or as binnie said Green is a chump

[vandeleur]

[binnie]

Kessler certainly used to be an 'A' fighter - the Kessler that fought Calzaghe was a monster. Even since the 'slide' has kicked in, he's still been able to beat Froch, which is quite an achievement.

In fact, had it not been for injury he would have been in the Super Six final (where he would have lost to Andre Ward again): Arthur Abraham, Glenn Johnson and Carl Froch are a level below Kessler.

We'll find out if the slide is reversible on Saturday.

[binnie]

The binnie breakdown: Mikkel Kessler - Allan Green.

Here is a fight in which much is unknown: both guys are moving up from 168lbs to 175lbs, and we have no idea how each will fare with the additional weight; Kessler is coming off a long lay-off following a series of injuries; and Green has struggled to find a path back to the big time after being spectacularly KO's by Glenn Johnson in the the Super Six tournament. All bets are made with caution, therefore. In Kessler, you have a great fighter who has been on the slide since his 2007 fighter with Joe Calzaghe. Since then, his pattented 1-2 has lost it's sharpness, and he looks to have lost a step defensively. That being said, Kessler is a 3 time Supermiddleweight champion, and has suffered losses only to Calzaghe - an ATG and future Hall of Famer - and Andre Ward - who looks set to be a future pound-for-pound king, and since those loses has both won a title and beaten an 'A' rate fighter in Carl Froch. If the slide has not become too rapid, this should be his night.

Green has a size advantage and a decent pop in his punches. But he just doesn't have the mental stamina to hit the big time. There's no shame in being whooped by Andre Ward, but getting beat up by a guy as old as Johnson is a worrying sign, as is the fact that Green failed to beat Edison Miranda, who at times out-boxed him (!). Expect Kessler to show signs of ring-rust, but to utilize his improved body punching to rough Green up, break him down and stop him later in the fight. Kessler is relentless once he puts an opponent on the back front, and he'll probably have the edge in speed and strength here. Kessler is in his back yard and knows that if he loses, there's really nowhere to go. Green, therefore, presents an opportunity for the Viking Warrior, and I fully expect him to take it.

[Dave's Bitch]

Another good one there.I am loving the binnie breakdown