The Army Boxing Thread

[vandeleur]

I don't imagine that when mayweather sees the fight it will cause him many sleepless nights

[jhale667]

I don't imagine that when mayweather sees the fight it will cause him many sleepless nights

I imagine when the news of Pac's loss was relayed to him, he was like "LET ME OUT OF HERE!!!"

[vandeleur]

I am not sure if I ever thought he had a chance but I always thought it would be a good match up , but recently am not even
Sure it would be that ....
As for the percentages I always thought arum was just fucking with people .

[jhale667]

I am not sure if I ever thought he had a chance but I always thought it would be a good match up , but recently am not even
Sure it would be that ....
As for the percentages I always thought arum was just fucking with people .

Arum has quite the sh*tty reputation, that's for sure... but watching that fight ( rounds 9 and 12 had already been pulled on that link I posted, so I will watch it again on HBO this weekend), I'm more inclined to agree with Roger Mayweather's assessment that Manny "wouldn't last 5 rounds with my nephew".

[vandeleur]

Arum has quite the sh*tty reputation"[/I].

Man it's so bad shitty is nearly a compliment

[jhale667]

I was trying to be diplomatic...

[binnie]

The controversy certainly drums up interest though, doesn't it? This is the busiest this thread has been for a while, just saying.

I have little doubt that Floyd beats Pacman. But 'destroys' or 'embarrases', I'm not so sure. Pacman's high workrate keeps him in it no matter what.

Personally, I think Floyd lands straight rights and makes Pacman miss and keeps him off balance. Rounds 1-4 are close, but after that it's Money May all day and all night - so long as he stays away from that left hand!

I'm actually keen to see Pacman-Bradley II, to be honest.

[jhale667]

Here's why I think it won't even be close...

The controversy certainly drums up interest though, doesn't it? This is the busiest this thread has been for a while, just saying.

I have little doubt that Floyd beats Pacman. But 'destroys' or 'embarrases', I'm not so sure. Pacman's high workrate keeps him in it no matter what.

Personally, I think Floyd lands straight rights and makes Pacman miss and keeps him off balance. Rounds 1-4 are close, but after that it's Money May all day and all night - so long as he stays away from that left hand!

I'm actually keen to see Pacman-Bradley II, to be honest.

You can say Pac took care of Hatton sooner, or whatever, but for my money (and you've agreed) JMM's beat Manny 3x - and Floyd embarassed HIM. Stands to reason he'd do the same if not worse to Manny, as JMM's defense is better...

I'd agree the 1st few rounds might be interesting, but as soon as Floyd adjusted - and adjust he WOULD - Manny's night starts getting reeeeeally rough.

[vandeleur]

Pacman's high workrate keeps him in it no matter what.

didnt saturday

i think pac bradley 2 will happen and happen quick and i bet we dont see pac counting how many rounds before he can leave off the gas this time ...... then maybe they can go back to the mayweather table

[binnie]

You can say Pac took care of Hatton sooner, or whatever, but for my money (and you've agreed) JMM's beat Manny 3x - and Floyd embarassed HIM. Stands to reason he'd do the same if not worse to Manny, as JMM's defense is better...

I'd agree the 1st few rounds might be interesting, but as soon as Floyd adjusted - and adjust he WOULD - Manny's night starts getting reeeeeally rough.

I see the logic, but styles make fights.

Yes, Floyd is a better counter puncher than JMM - but JMM is a come forward fighter prepared to trade with Manny and not let him have it all his own way. Floyd doesn't fight like that - languishing on the ropes would allow Manny to look like he's in the fight: he'd be missing a lot of punches, but it would look like he was in it, and sometimes that steels rounds.

Personally, I'd love to see a Floyd masterclass - but Manny is a class act too.

[vandeleur]

You can say Pac took care of Hatton sooner

When i was preparing for the fight ...ie drinking and watching internet porn lol .... i watched the pac hatton fight ( porn interlude ) ... i had forgot how ferocious some of pac's punches to hatton were . at the time hatton didnt appear to be a fighter you could just destroy but man them two rounds .. brutal

[jhale667]

I see the logic, but styles make fights.

Yes, Floyd is a better counter puncher than JMM - but JMM is a come forward fighter prepared to trade with Manny and not let him have it all his own way. Floyd doesn't fight like that - languishing on the ropes would allow Manny to look like he's in the fight: he'd be missing a lot of punches, but it would look like he was in it, and sometimes that steels rounds.

Personally, I'd love to see a Floyd masterclass - but Manny is a class act too.

Agree styles make fights - but I think it's interesting that Floyd's been standing and hooking more with opponents lately (less so with Cotto, true), and not languishing on the ropes as much. I think if he decided to be the intelligent aggressor in the fight - making Manny miss in the center of the ring (which he's fully capable of doing) and nailing him with straight right hands at will, Manny's in trouble...OR look at how much success Bradley had coming forward...Manny can't fight so well backing up...if Floyd even adopted a tiny bit of Bradley's strategy in that respect, look out....

[binnie]

The guy we're forgetting about here is Amir Khan. I can see a scenario where he moves up to 147 to take on Bradley - that's a great fighter.

Personally, I think a lot of guys at 147 - guys like Ortiz and Berto are too big and strong for Bradley, and that although he's a warrior Tim's time at the top will be shortlived.

[jhale667]

The guy we're forgetting about here is Amir Khan. I can see a scenario where he moves up to 147 to take on Bradley - that's a great fighter.

Personally, I think a lot of guys at 147 - guys like Ortiz and Berto are too big and strong for Bradley, and that although he's a warrior Tim's time at the top will be shortlived.

Totally agree Khan would likely obliterate Bradley...Ortiz would probably knock him the F out, too...(possibly NOT via a headbutt, too ). Yeah, I don't see his championship lasting long either.

Gotta give Bradley points for heart AND/OR stupidity for continuing on with a fractured foot AND a twisted ankle...he definitely wanted it more than Pacman, he just didn't have what it took to decisively beat him (much like Pac that night).

[Dave's Bitch]

Agree styles make fights - but I think it's interesting that Floyd's been standing and hooking more with opponents lately (less so with Cotto, true), and not languishing on the ropes as much. I think if he decided to be the intelligent aggressor in the fight - making Manny miss in the center of the ring (which he's fully capable of doing) and nailing him with straight right hands at will, Manny's in trouble...OR look at how much success Bradley had coming forward...Manny can't fight so well backing up...if Floyd even adopted a tiny bit of Bradley's strategy in that respect, look out....

I have said before and will say again I think Floyd out boxes Manny every time.But i agree with Binnie in that to say he would destroy him is not giving Pacquiao enough credit.There would be points throughout the fight where Manny's whirlwind style and unorthodox angles would catch Floyd and steal rounds.The problem is Manny has become complacent.I have read so many time's Pacquiao could have knocked Bradley out,If he could have knocked him out he should have.The problem is Manny has become complacent.If Manny were to focus again i am sure he could atleast be a tough night's work for Floyd