The Army Boxing Thread

[binnie]

Originally posted by DlocRoth
The fight was close for maybe 4 rounds....a real slug fest.

Soto got worn out and then pounded.

I really enjoyed it too. Heavyweight's aside, boxing is in great shape at the moment....

[binnie]

The buzz on the internet is that Hopkins is not going to fight Calzaghe. He's banking on Jones beating Trinidad (which he will) and re-living 1993.

Shame.

[ALinChainz]

Bigger money must be, JC isn't a name anywhere but home still in my opinion.

[jhale667]

Originally posted by binnie
He's banking on Jones beating Trinidad (which he will) and re-living 1993.

Shame.

A friend and I were debating that yesterday, and we ended up agreeing Jones may have the edge over Trinidad.
But neither of them are what they once were...

[binnie]

Originally posted by jhale667
A friend and I were debating that yesterday, and we ended up agreeing Jones may have the edge over Trinidad.
But neither of them are what they once were...

Nope they certianly aren't. This will be too heavy a weight for Trinidad, and he's fought so infrequently over recent years that he will be a shadow of his former self, IMO

[binnie]

Originally posted by ALinChainz
Bigger money must be, JC isn't a name anywhere but home still in my opinion.

Money is probably part of it: despite Joe now been ranked 2nd or 3rd on some Pound for Pound lists, I doubt that he's much of a household name Stateside. Having said that, HBO wants this fight, so you never know.

I think the other issue is that Hopkins knows that he would be in for a much easier night against Jones or Trinidad (it will be Jones). Roy is shot now, and Hopkins will be able to beat him in a chess match with relative ease: that might make his pain from 1993.

Calzaghe would push Hopkins to the limit, why risk that? He didn't want to fight him 3 years ago (he doubled his asking price), so what's changed now? It makes perfect business sense for Hopkins - if he loses, then he pretty much has to retire, so he may has well take a bigger payday and an easier night?

I don't see Pavlick stepping up for JC either: he might as well dominate the middleweights until he can't get down to 160lbs. I would.

[DlocRoth]

Originally posted by jhale667
A friend and I were debating that yesterday, and we ended up agreeing Jones may have the edge over Trinidad.
But neither of them are what they once were...

Tito has been washed up since forever.....his last viable fight was the split decision over De La. That was a great fight, whomever anyone decided who won it.

He disappeared after that.


Roy Jr.? Who the fuck wants to watch him fight anymore?

Boooooring.

[binnie]

Originally posted by DlocRoth
Tito has been washed up since forever.....his last viable fight was the split decision over De La. That was a great fight, whomever anyone decided who won it.

He disappeared after that.


Roy Jr.? Who the fuck wants to watch him fight anymore?

Boooooring.

Yeah, it's just a money fight, more soap opera than boxing. Roy hasnt been the same since he came down from heavyweight, it clearly fucked his body. And we now know that his chin isn't fantastic. BHop would walk a rematch, IMO...

[binnie]

Vargas - Mayorga this weekend. Not a very important fight, and both are well past their prime, but given that they both loathe each other this may be well worth watching. I'll go with Vargas to win, but it'll be close.

Also Kermit Cintron is defending his welterweight belt against Jose Feliciano. Cintron should walk it, I think he has the potential to be the best in the division if he puts the effort in and keeps developing like he has in his last couple of fights. It's all about how bad he wants it I guess: like Paul Williams, nature has given him some significant advantages (height, power..)

[DlocRoth]

I've always liked Vargas....I'll take him too...

Mayorga really isn't all that....never was....

Aside from him owning what's his name, who owns Sugar Shane who owns De La....lol....he doesn't impress me all that much.

Bot of em are washed up though, agreed.

But I'll be watching it,

[binnie]

If memory serves, it goes something like this....


Mayorga beat Vernon Forrest in 2003 and Forrest later beat Mosely. However Mayorga was whooped by Trinidad and De La Hoya. He was also beaten by Cory Spinks of all people.


Vargas beat Winky Wirght and Ike Quarterly, but was beaten by Trinidad, De La Hoya and Mosely (twice.)

Both are under-achievers. But I think this will be a competitive fight, given the mutual dislike.

[binnie]

Well, I got one right and one wrong.

Cintron pummelled Jose: he didn't "walk it", and I have major respects for Jose's durability.

Mayorga won. It was close, and a good fight. Not too sure where he goes from here though...

[binnie]

Is everybody of the opinion that Mayweather will beat Hatton?

My heart wants Ricky to win but my head knows that its incredibly unlikely. I think that the fight will be closer than a lot of the pundits seem to think, but I can't see Floyd failing as I expect him to stay out of the way most of the night.

If he gives Ricky half a chance though, he'll be in trouble....

[jhale667]

I agree with you...Floyd will try to win on points while running from Ricky for the entire fight.
If he attempts to stand and trade with Hatton, he's in serious trouble...

[binnie]

Originally posted by jhale667
I agree with you...Floyd will try to win on points while running from Ricky for the entire fight.
If he attempts to stand and trade with Hatton, he's in serious trouble...

Yep. I actually hope Hatton manages to pin him down so Pretty Boy has to fight a bit, otherwise it could be a dull fight....