The Army Boxing Thread

[jhale667]

Rios/Alvarado II lived up to expectations this weekend... looked like it was going to be a repeat of the 1st fight early, as Rios staggered Alvarado with a stiff jab in the 2nd round... but Alvarado came back and out-boxed Rios the rest of the night to earn the decision. He actualy hurt Rios a couple or 3 times this fight, but Rios has an iron jaw, only staggered noticeably a couple of times... there will be a 3rd fight looks like.

[jhale667]

Any predictions for Donaire-Rigondeaux(sp) or Alvarez-Trout? Rigondeaux will be an interesting test for Donaire as he's probably the biggest puncher he's been in against and the dude is fast, too...


Thinking Trout may be a little more than Canello is ready for... the dude was laughing off Cotto's best shots....

[binnie]

Bradley showed that he has some balls. I was surprised, however, by how easy he looked to hit in that fight. He certainly proved his heart, but he looked sloppy where I normally think that he's sharp....

I think that Trout is going to beat Alvarez - he seems to have that momentum at the moment.

I feel I should apologise for being slack with the binnie breakdown's recently.....

[jhale667]

Bradley showed that he has some balls. I was surprised, however, by how easy he looked to hit in that fight. He certainly proved his heart, but he looked sloppy where I normally think that he's sharp....

I think that Trout is going to beat Alvarez - he seems to have that momentum at the moment.

I feel I should apologise for being slack with the binnie breakdown's recently.....

It reinforced my belief that neither he nor Manny would last 3 rounds w/ Floyd. TOO easy to hit. I mean, the russian kid was plodding along and still nailing Bradley all night.


I have a feeling Trout is going to embarrass Alvarez. The kid's tough, but I think he's about to step out of his league.

[binnie]

It reinforced my belief that neither he nor Manny would last 3 rounds w/ Floyd. TOO easy to hit. I mean, the russian kid was plodding along and still nailing Bradley all night.


I have a feeling Trout is going to embarrass Alvarez. The kid's tough, but I think he's about to step out of his league.

I think Bradley was rusty in that fight. He's never been a defensive master, but he is usually slick. He made the Russian kid harder work than he needed to.

I'll say this: Bradley is better than he looks. No-one has beaten him (officially), and he's a two weight champ. I'm not quite sure what his X=factor is, but he is actually underated at the moment.

Given that he's with Arum, he'll never be in a ring with Floyd.

[Dave's Bitch]

I am looking forward to Trout Alvarez,I have not watched boxing for a while but this one looks good.Going to be different and say Canelo by decision

[vandeleur]

The boxing thread has totally been missing the binnie breakdown .....

[jhale667]

I am looking forward to Trout Alvarez,I have not watched boxing for a while but this one looks good.Going to be different and say Canelo by decision

If you want to see a real (no) knockdown, drag-out slugfest check out Rios-Alvarado II... that was a war. Very entertaining fight.

[jhale667]

Just ran into one of my boxing-freak co-worker buddies outside my office... we had a long talk about Saturday's upcoming Donaire fight, and came to the conclusion neither of us can call it.... could seriously go either way... can't wait to see it!


We both think Trout is gonna kick Canelo's ass, though...

[jhale667]

Well, that was a downer. Donaire loses the decision...just got out-worked, out-boxed, out-classed, and shouldn't have. Wouldn't have been so annoying if it had been closer. He admitted he didn't prepare properly. Wow.

[binnie]

It was a surprise - and a strange fight.

I actually had it even. Donaire was the aggressor for most of the fight (not necessarily effectively, but he was forcing the action), and Rigondeux was negative a lot of the time, but stole rounds with crisp flurries towards the end. A true chess match between master boxers. Not too sure I'd agree with 'out-classed' - more, flumaxed (sp?). Donaire just couldn't work out a guy whose feet were so much faster than him, a fact compounded by Rigondeux's south-paw stance (meaning Donaire couldn't cut off the ring). You could tell ND was confused because he was so gun shy, which is unusual.

Rigondeux faught a smart fight. Kudos to him.

The rematch will be interesting. DO SOME SOUTPAW SPARRING DONAIRE!!

[jhale667]

It was a surprise - and a strange fight.

I actually had it even. Donaire was the aggressor for most of the fight (not necessarily effectively, but he was forcing the action), and Rigondeux was negative a lot of the time, but stole rounds with crisp flurries towards the end. A true chess match between master boxers. Not too sure I'd agree with 'out-classed' - more, flumaxed (sp?). Donaire just couldn't work out a guy whose feet were so much faster than him, a fact compounded by Rigondeux's south-paw stance (meaning Donaire couldn't cut off the ring). You could tell ND was confused because he was so gun shy, which is unusual.

Rigondeux faught a smart fight. Kudos to him.

The rematch will be interesting. DO SOME SOUTPAW SPARRING DONAIRE!!

OK, "flummoxed" it is then.... Dunno, 400 amateur fights under GR's belt is still 400 fights... the dude has sick skills, but yes pissed me of because he seemed like he was running, pot-shotting and stealing rounds all night. Partly because he's that good, but mostly because Donaire LET him.


The rematch will be interesting... Donaire's definitely more powerful, as evidenced by the knockdown and the fact he was walking through some brutal shots from Rigondeux.

[jhale667]

Alvarez-Trout is tomorrow night... any predictions? Any binnie breakdown?


I kinda think Trout is gonna win this, just based on the fact that he was walking through - and laughing off - everything Cotto threw at him, and apart from a shot Mosely this is Alvarez' first real test...should be interesting.

[binnie]

The binnie breakdown: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs Austin 'No Doubt' Trout (154lbs)

This is a story of two young guns clashing on their rise to the top: one (Alvarez) hyped and steered through a series of 'name' wins into the starlight almost from the day he turned pro; the other (Trout) a guy who has floated somewhat under the radar until his demolition of Miguel Cotto. Tonight we find out who is the man at 154, and this is a genuine pick 'em fight. You could argue that Cotto is on the slide (although claims to that extent have been exaggerated) and that he is small at 154, but Trout's performance was astonishing - poised, controlled and confident, he picked his shots well and had a tremendous gameplan against of the the best fighters of the past ten years. He is the slightly bigger man tonight, and his southpaw style may very well give Alvarez problems, especially in the early rounds. He is not a noted puncher, and I'd be amazed if he stops Alvarez, but I can see him picking his shots and combinations well to leave the Mexican in trouble.

Alvarez seems like a star in the making. Heavy handed (although his power has been overstated), his victories over big names has rightly earned him acclaim. He certainly comes to fight, but until many past Mexican warriors he values skill over brawling. He is more of a boxer puncher, and his footwork and movement belie his age. You could say, however, that he is somewhat untested - yet to face a big name in their prime, or a guy bigger than him who can move, on Saturday he is going to face both, and you can never really know how that is going to pan out. Remember how another 'star in the making' of recent years buckled under pressure (Victor Ortiz). If we find anything out tonight, it will be how good (or not) Alvarez is.

I smell an upset here. It will be close, put I just sense that Trout may be able to nick it via a UD.

[binnie]

The binnie Breakdown: Tyson Fury vs Steve Cunningham (heavyweight).

An interesting fight in an underwhelming division. Say what you will about Fury, he gets better with every fight. Slowly learning to move, use his hand speed, and make the best of his (gigantic) size, he has beaten a steady stream of quality opposition en route to an inevitable title shot (Martin Rogan, Vinny Madalone and Derek Chisora being the most prominent). In Steve Cunningham, he make his US debut against a man who is not really a heavyweight at all. A former cruiserwight champion, Cunningham will be perhaps the most skillful boxer Fury has faced, and that could pose the giant problems. Given that a) Cunningham is giving away over 40lbs; b) over 6'' in height; c) was not a puncher at cruiser; and d) we don't really know what he's like a heavyweight, you have to figure he's got a heck of challenge in front of him.

I'd not be surprised if Cunningham gets some shots in, and maybe even surprises Fury a bit. But sooner or later, I expect the bigger man to impose his size and win via a stoppage in the later round.