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Part of MMA's success can undoubtedly be attributed to the reticence of the top guys to fight one anohter in boxing. That plus the absence of excitment in the heavyweight division.
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It will never have the rich hiostory or scale of boxing though,you hit the nail on the head with the heavyweight division.Damn binnie you know your shit
could change if Haye beats Wlad thoughI really love you baby, I love what you've got
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It could change, but Haye is planning on retiring by the end of the year anyway - maybe the lure of major $$$$ will keep him in.
Even - and it's a major even - if he beats Wlad, he'd then have to beat Vitali. I just don't see that happening. But even if - by some mathematical fluke - he managed to de-throne both of them, then who would he fight that's exciting? Eddie Chambers? Chris 'my weight is more interesting than my fights' Arreolla? There's just not the depth there.
Shit, these days they'd probably put him in with Evander Holyfield......The Power Of The Riff Compels MeComment
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I'm curious to know who people's favourite fighters are - now or ever. Not the guys they think are P4P or GOAT, but the guys they loved to watch.
Mine:
Roberto Duran - do I need to explain that?
Kid Gavilan - fought like his life depending on it, but did it with brains.
Floyd Patterson - determined: no-one had to drag their asses off the canvas more, but he kept winning.
Larry Holmes - perfect jab, great footwork, never dull, and you'd bet the house on him winning.
Tony Zale - Ray Robinson aside, he was as good as anyone at 160.
Ezzard Charles - brains, brawn and skill. 175lbs never looked better.
Pernel Whitaker - hit me if you can, bitch.
These days, I'd say Miguel Cotto (fundamentally flawed but he'll fight Klitschko if you asked him), Juan Manuel Marquez (because he has immense skills but comes to fight), and Nonito Donaire (skills, skills, skillls) get my nod.The Power Of The Riff Compels MeComment
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To name a few
Jack Johnson - Probably the most controversial and the first example of a superstar athlete,Great defence style.
Jack Dempsey - exceptional punching power,Pure aggression
Smokin' Joe Frazier - Great fighter,Nice guy always feel sorry for him over the ali stuff (at the time anyway)
Tommy "The Hitman" Hearns - 5 world titles in 5 different divisions.Owner of one of the most popular nick names in boxing and creator of the hitman stance
Marvelous Marvin Hagler - going to opponents' hometowns to get fights,and winning.Probably my favorite middle weight of all time
Iron Mike - Nuff' saidLast edited by Dave's Bitch; 05-23-2011, 06:14 PM.I really love you baby, I love what you've got
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Yeah, Mike has to be on the list - it just kills me watching the post prison fights though. He wasn't the same with the layoff and the lack of decent promotion/training.
Jack Johnson was exceptional - it is one of my ambitions to write a book on him. In those days - well, in any pre-War era - the world stopped during a big fight.The Power Of The Riff Compels MeComment
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It is shocking to look back at the whole White Hope campaign when johnson won the belt.The outrage at a black heavyweight champion.Riot's after he beat james j jeffries and so on.They made a white heavyweight title,It is really harsh stuff.I recently read a great book on that era,When fighters would have a career of 300+ fights.Guy's like Fireman Jim Flynn who woud just keep going into there twilight years,then be forgotten and go on to drive cabs,Boxing was a really cruel mistress.Johnson was incredible though.There was guys like Sam Langford who were really top class fighters who would just take the segrigation,Johnson was brash and flashy.One thing i will say against Jack Dempsey,he drew the colour line when he won the title.make's you wonder how his career may have turnd out if he had not
Today i am hard pressed to think of the last white heavyweight champion of any interest
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Jack Johnson a controversial hero of mine, but still a hero nonetheless.
Sugar Ray. I know but I like that guy.
"History of the Heavyweight Championships"
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Both.
Leonard just came out with a biography btw. Talking about being abused by a coach. I think that guy is a fighter.Can't Control your Future. Can't Control your Friends. The women start to hike their skirts up. I didn't have a clue. That is when I kinda learned how to smile a lot. One Two Three Fouir fun ter thehr fuur.Comment
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Well gee SunisinuS,We managed to kill the thread
Possible fight between Zab Judah and Amir Khan comming soon.I would like to see this,I fucking hate Khan.He is a puncher not a boxer.Sure he has fast hands but thats about it.
if it happens Zab takes it,not sure to guess KO or not yet,i will get back to you on that
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Here are a few of mine that i always enjoyed watching:
Muhammed Ali
Roberto Duran
Tommy Hearns
Sugar Ray Leonard
Hector Macho Camacho
Aaron Pryor
Boom Boom Mancini
Salvador Sanchez
Little Red LopezRIDE TO LIVE, LIVE TO RIDE
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Where do you stand on the view that Salvador Sanchez is the greatest fighter Mexico ever produced?The Power Of The Riff Compels MeComment
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