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Originally posted by cMb I don't care what people do in their spare time. This dogfighting shit is going to go on whether Mike Vick is guilty or not.
Vick needs to realize, because of his high profile, there is going to be jealous 'haters' that will want to knock him down.
The rat fuck who snitched on him should be beaten severely.
yeah just justify him killing innocent dogs.
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Originally posted by Vanessa didn't they say that his cousin was the one responsible for the dog fights? :confused:
he owns the property...and it is thought that it was a cover for Vick to hold the fights himself...witnesses say he was present at fights on that property....so those who think it was only his cousin..they are wrong...he was directly involved
IN ALL SERIOUSNESS! My wife/soon to be EX-WIFE wanted a dog, then another dog for companionship for the first dog!! I have raised dogs before(my stepmothers german shepard when I had to move back in w/dad & stepmom years back, finishing school! My wife had NO FUCKIN CLUE on the time, effort, money, love, etc. etc. Now she is gone and I have two dogs(complete incompatibility- a female beagle and a male boston terrier!) I sacrifice much for them! However I am keeping them! Whatever happens to VICK - I think it is more an athlete thing than a "race" thing!! Me- whiteboy! Partied in high school with 2 buds(black and rival gang members-1982) Before serious violence! Smoked doobs and played VH 2!!! However, back to the point! ANY VIOLENCE/ABUSE against innocent animals, in my opinion, should be CRIMINAL!!!!!
NEW YORK (AP) -- Michael Vick was ordered by commissioner Roger Goodell on Monday to stay away from the Atlanta Falcons' training camp until the league reviews the dogfighting charges against him.
"While it is for the criminal justice system to determine your guilt or innocence, it is my responsibility as commissioner of the National Football League to determine whether your conduct, even if not criminal, nonetheless violated league policies, including the Personal Conduct Policy," Goodell said in a letter to the quarterback.
The NFL said Vick would still get his preseason pay and Goodell told the Falcons to withhold any disciplinary action of their own until the league's review was completed.
Goodell told Vick the league would complete its review quickly and that he expected full cooperation. The review is expected to involve conversations with federal law enforcement officials so the NFL can determine the strength of the case against Vick.
The Falcons open camp on Thursday, the same day Vick is scheduled to be arraigned in Richmond, Va., on charges of sponsoring a dogfighting operation.
Team officials declined comment other than to say a news conference was scheduled Tuesday at owner Arthur Blank's office in Atlanta.
Blank, general manager Rich McKay and new coach Bobby Petrino are expected to speak publicly for the first time about their embattled quarterback. Falcons spokesman Reggie Roberts said Vick, who is in Virginia, will not attend the news conference.
Petrino's wife, Becky Petrino, said her husband had not yet returned home when The Associated Press called on Monday night.
Vick hasn't commented publicly since the team held a mini-camp in May. None of the phone messages left on his cell phone have been returned. Lawyer Lawrence Woodward of Newport News, Va., also did not respond to interview requests Monday.
Vick, the No. 1 overall pick in the 2001 draft, last season became the first quarterback ever to rush for more than 1,000 yards. He led the Falcons to an NFC wild-card win 2002, his first season as a starter, and in 2004, Vick's play helped the Falcons reach the conference title game.
NFL veteran players will earn $1,100 per week from the beginning of camp until the first week of the regular season.
The contract extension Vick signed in 2004, a 10-year deal worth approximately $130 million, calls for a $6 million salary this season.
After Vick's indictment last week, the NFL's position was that it would monitor developments and allow the legal process to "determine the facts."
Since then, pressure has been mounting on the league and the Falcons, particularly from animal-rights groups.
PETA -- People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals -- demonstrated at Falcons' headquarters in Flowery Branch, Ga., on Monday and did the same outside NFL offices in New York last week. At the same time, Goodell was meeting with officials from the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. The league and the ASPCA are working on a program to educate players about the proper treatment of animals.
Activists also pressured companies that have endorsements deals with Vick to sever their ties. Nike said it would not release a fifth signature shoe, the Air Zoom Vick V, this summer. Nike spokesman Dean Stoyer said the four shoe products and three shirts that currently bear Vick's name will remain in stores.
The Humane Society of the United States responded to the NFL's directive by renewing its call that the apparel company sever its relationship with Vick while the charges are pending.
Goodell's order came down after lengthy discussions involving the league office, the Falcons and the NFL Players' Association. Gene Upshaw, the NFLPA's executive director, was one of the first to side with Goodell when he instituted the strong Personal Conduct Policy after a season of repeated misdeeds by players.
Disciplining players has turned out to be Goodell's main focus since taking over last Sept. 1 for the retired Paul Tagliabue.
Since the end of last season, he has used the new policy to suspend Adam "Pacman" Jones of the Tennessee Titans for the entire 2007 season; and Chris Henry of Cincinnati and former Chicago Bear Tank Johnson for eight games each.
Those calling for Vick's suspension have noted that Jones, who faces charges of coercion in Las Vegas stemming from a shooting that left a man paralyzed, wasn't convicted when he was suspended.
However, league officials said there were mitigating circumstances in the Jones case.
In January, he accepted a plea agreement to dismiss public intoxication and disorderly conduct charges in Tennessee if he behaved himself for six months. League officials say that the charges in Las Vegas voided that agreement and were a major factor in his suspension.
The indictment of Vick alleges that about eight young dogs were put to death at his Surry County home after they were found not ready to fight. They were killed "by hanging, drowning and/or slamming at least one dog's body to the ground."
Purses for the fights ranged from hundreds of dollars to the thousands, and participants and spectators often placed side bets on the outcome, according to the indictment
If convicted, Vick and three others charged with him could face up to six years in prison, and $350,000 in fines.
Fucking bullshit he still gets to play. Seriously, it makes me sick to my stomach as I've always been a dog lover and have always considered my dogs as part of the family. I cannot fathom the torture, how frightened the animals were/are. Fuckin' makes me ill. Both the league and the Falcons org should go fuck themselves if they let this motherfucker back.
Originally posted by MAX Fucking bullshit he still gets to play. Seriously, it makes me sick to my stomach as I've always been a dog lover and have always considered my dogs as part of the family. I cannot fathom the torture, how frightened the animals were/are. Fuckin' makes me ill. Both the league and the Falcons org should go fuck themselves if they let this motherfucker back.
He'll never take a snap for the Falcons again. The thing that sucks is just a few weeks before this shit came out they got rid a great quarterback.
Originally posted by scamper He'll never take a snap for the Falcons again. The thing that sucks is just a few weeks before this shit came out they got rid a great quarterback.
I pray that you're correct. I was talking with others about this subject today at work. Luckily, coming from people who live, breathe, eat and shit sports 24/7 say that regardless of the legal shit, Vick will not play again in the NFL. I fucking hope so. They were saying from a pr decision that his image is beyond any repair.
I say if the alleged charges turn out to be true...
Marinate Vick in brown gravy and lock him in a dogfighting ring full of hungry, trained pitbulls, rotweilers, dobermans, K-9's and any other intimidating dog. Then yell "ATTACK!!!" Just to be sure, make sure Vick's wee wee is double dipped in Beef Au Jus and wrapped in bacon so the dogs take their collective time on his worthless ass.
Marinate Vick in brown gravy and lock him in a dogfighting ring full of hungry, trained pitbulls, rotweilers, dobermans, K-9's and any other intimidating dog. Then yell "ATTACK!!!" Just to be sure, make sure Vick's wee wee is double dipped in Beef Au Jus and wrapped in bacon so the dogs take their collective time on his worthless ass.
Too funny..... In all seriousness, dog fighting is bigger than you guys think. I've done hours and hours of research on this topic. Let me tell you that all the abuse those dogs went through, is real. This video that I posted(WARNING,) will make you angry and then make you cry. Before I started raising Pitbulls, I made sure what I was getting into. I knew a few people around my neighborhood that delt drugs, and had Pitbulls. They treated those poor dogs sooo bad, but those dogs never bit them. I said to myself, if those dogs tolerate evil owners, just think how they will love a good owner. So I was given a Pitbull 7 years ago and I really, really, love this breed. BUT..... I only trust my dogs and my families dogs that came from me. I'm not saying all other Pitbulls are mean, but I don't know how they were raised. I'll post some of my doggies. The Seal colored one is registered as Hammonds' "La Vampira De Azul" her call name is Blue. The White and Blue on is Hammonds' "Miss America" her call name is Panda Baby. Panda is the daughter of Blue. I hope you guys learn something from the video. PUNISH THE DEED, NOT THE BREED!
Lest we forget....the very first registered APBT in all his glory! Of course, years before, dogs like Dibo weren't registered...or mistreated/"trained." Neither was Petey!!!
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