Cleveland Sports Chatter

[twonabomber]

when they hired Grover as a "consultant" or whatever he was i coulda sworn they did it so they had him under contract for when they fired whoever was manager at the time. the Dolans like to say how big of Indians fans they are first and foremost, they can't be the only fans wanting Hargrove to come back.

Wedge is Shapiro's boy, but i don't know if Dolan would tell Shapiro that Wedge goes or they both do.

[POJO_Risin]

He's been making comments about wanting to manage one more time...gee...I wonder why.

There's no way Shapiro takes back Grover. If that's what the Dolan's are planning, and I can't imagine that nimrod is planning anything but cost-cutting, then I bet Shapiro goes with him.

Antonetti would be next in line...I would figure...although you never know.

My bet is Dolan will hire whoever comes cheap...

You know twona...this could be it for several years. I like some of these young kids in the organization...but I don't see a contender for awhile. We could be entering a phase that requires more than a few years to rebuild...

It's not going to be pretty.

[damngoodtimes]

10 and probably 11 will be a time to focus on developing the young talent at the major league level.

I hope they just let the kids play and don't waste AB's with stiffs like Delucci (or whomever the 2010 version of Delucci is)

[twonabomber]

You know twona...this could be it for several years. I like some of these young kids in the organization...but I don't see a contender for awhile. We could be entering a phase that requires more than a few years to rebuild...

It's not going to be pretty.

they claim the farm system is still decent. i'm pretty sure all their minor league affiliates are within a two hour drive now too...Columbus, Akron, and (god forbid) Eastlake. easy for fans to watch these guys try to make the big leagues, and then shitty when a guy you've followed from the beginning of his career gets traded away for nothing.

[POJO_Risin]

Their single A team is in Kinston, NC...

That's the thing...the farm team is decent...I still think it's a bit overrated however...

I just hope I'm wrong...

[twonabomber]

i forgot about Kinston. they are listed as A, and so are the Captains and the Mahoning Valley Scrappers.

[POJO_Risin]

Kinston's their advanced A club...the Scrappers are their short season A team in the New York/Penn league...talk about old school.

The Captains are their regular ole' A club.

Been to Kinston a few times this year to watch Chisenhall play...

[damngoodtimes]

Cavs sign Leon Powe to a two year deal.

The guy won't be able to play until after the break, but he's pretty much signed at the league veteran minimum. when healthy, he's a really solid big off the bench.

Cavs are really making strides to upgrade the bench. Even without Powe, they've gone from a bench of Wallace, WALL-E, Pavlovic to a bench of Big Z, Anthony Parker, Jamario Moon. More athletic and more scoring off the bench.

[POJO_Risin]

Good signing...

[letsrock]

I see they signed Powe from Boston.
Now if he can stay healthy?

[damngoodtimes]

he's gotta GET healthy first.

but it's a low-risk move. minimum contract Cavs hold option for 2010-11.

[POJO_Risin]

The Cavs have made a bunch of good moves...they are deep...talented...

can defend the low post and around the arc...

Now...can they stop looking like garbage offensively against teams playing solid defense in the playoffs...

I'm so damn sick of watching them stand around...

[damngoodtimes]

it's September and the Tribe still sucks.

although I do like seeing some of these youngsters like LaPorta and Brantley getting time up in the bigs.

plus, I think it is getting overlooked just how solid a year Asdrubal Cabrera has put together. ACab and Valbuena could be a long term answer up the middle.

if the Tribe can hit on 3 or 4 of the 17,000 young arms they just picked up, this team might have some promise.

......now, who's gonna manage them?

[POJO_Risin]

Bobby Valentine has a history of rallying young teams...

[damngoodtimes]

I wouldn't mind that. Just someone who can get the damn team to maybe just play .500 ball in April would be a nice start.