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  • Little Texan
    Full Member Status

    • Jan 2004
    • 4579

    Originally posted by chefcraig
    Union to players: Save pay, NFL lockout’s coming

    By JIMMY GOLEN, AP Sports

    FOXBOROUGH, Mass. (AP)—NFL players might be socking away their paychecks soon to get ready for a lockout that could cost them their entire salary in 2011.

    The pro football players’ union has advised its members to save their last three game checks this year in case next season is canceled. In a letter to the players that was viewed by The Associated Press, NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith said the union’s “internal deadline” for agreeing to a new collective bargaining agreement has passed.

    “It is important that you protect yourself and your family,” he wrote in the letter, which was dated Wednesday.
    FILE - This Nov. 7, 2010, file photo shows New England Patriots offensive tackle Matt Light watching from the bench during an NFL football game against the Cleveland Browns , in Cleveland. The NFL players' union has advised its members to prepare for a lockout it expects to come in March, telling players to save their last three game checks this year in case there is no season in 2011. The one-page letter on NFLPA stationery said the union expects the lockout to come on March 4, and that players should work with their advisers to prepare for an impending lack of income. It also said the league is planning to cancel the players' health insurance. Light, one of the teamss player representatives, said players understand the nature of the business but the threat to cancel health insurance is different.

    NFLPA spokesman George Atallah declined to elaborate on what effect the passing of the self-imposed deadline would have on negotiations, saying the letter was an “internal communication.”

    But copies were strewn across a table on Saturday in the New England Patriots’ locker room, where they were visible to players, reporters and team officials. After a reporter asked players about the letter, a Patriots spokesman flipped the copies face-down.

    NFL spokesman Greg Aiello called the news of a deadline “disappointing and inexplicable, especially for fans.”

    “We hope this does not mean the union has abandoned negotiating in favor of decertifying and litigating,” he said. “We are ready to meet and negotiate anytime and anywhere. But it takes sustained effort and shared commitment to reach an agreement. One side can’t do it alone.”

    About an hour after telling the AP, “We don’t comment publicly on our internal communications with players,” Atallah did just that on Twitter.

    “Today’s memo to NFL players was an internal deadline to prepare, not for CBA negotiations,” he wrote, following up with two more tweets: “The NFL knows that we have exchanged correspondence and met regularly,” and “To spin this as an end to the NFLPA’s negotiating is dumb. Perhaps the outrage can be directed towards preventing a lockout.”

    The NFL has not missed games due to labor strife since 1987, when the players went on strike and the owners continued the season with replacement players. But the prospect of a lost season in 2011 intensified when owners opted out of the collective bargaining agreement in 2008, saying they could not make a profit if required to give almost 60 cents of every $1 in revenue to the players.

    Smith has said that he believes the owners opted out with the goal of locking the players out. The NFLPA’s home page features a “Lockout Watch” that counts down the days, hours, minutes and seconds until the CBA expires on March 3.

    The one-page letter on NFLPA stationery said the union expects the lockout to begin March 4, and that players should work with their advisers to prepare for an impending lack of income.

    It also said the league threatened to cancel the players’ health insurance.

    The union said it would file a grievance to contest a cancellation of health insurance, noting that the CBA promises players their health insurance would continue “through the end of the Plan Year in which they are released or otherwise sever employment.”

    Patriots offensive lineman Matt Light(notes) said players understand the nature of the business, but the threat to cancel health insurance is different.

    “You’re going to cancel somebody’s health insurance and maybe they’ve got a baby that’s due in the offseason?” said Light, who is one of the team’s player representatives. “Yeah, it gets personal.”

    Aiello said that there would be no interruption of health care, because of the federal COBRA law that allows employees to continue coverage at their own expense.

    “This means that no player or family member would experience any change in coverage for so much as a single day because of a work stoppage,” he said. “The union surely knows this and there is no excuse for suggesting otherwise.”

    Light said he is doing his best to educate his teammates on how to prepare.

    “They’ve got to look at it like they’re going into a period in which they are going to change their financial situation,” he said. “Nobody knows what’s going to happen. But if you’re going to go a year without getting paid, you need to prepare accordingly.”

    Under the deal agreed to in 2006, the players’ share of designated NFL revenues is set at 59.6 percent. The owners opted out beginning next season, arguing they have huge debts from building stadiums and starting up the NFL Network that make it impossible to be profitable.

    The two sides met last month and said they made “some progress” on proposals involving an 18-game regular season and limiting offseason workouts.

    But players have gone public with their case in recent weeks, briefing Congress on the job loss and other economic impacts of a lockout and even drafting letters for lawmakers to send to the league. Using many of the same studies the NFL relies on when trumpeting public subsidies for new stadiums, an economist commissioned by the union estimated an average of about $160 million in local spending and 3,000 jobs would be lost in each league city if the full 2011 season were wiped out.

    The NFL called the figures “a fairy tale.”

    New England linebacker Tully Banta-Cain(notes) said he was already squirreling away his savings in case of a lockout. Banta-Cain said he was also working on his outside businesses, which include a clothing line and a music label.

    “I’m trying to prepare,” he said. “And I’m trying to establish my off-the-field businesses and make sure I can make money in the offseason.”
    What, no scab football this time?

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    • twonabomber
      formerly F A T
      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

      • Jan 2004
      • 11196

      i really have a hard time feeling bad about either sides situation.
      Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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      • BigBadBrian
        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
        • Jan 2004
        • 10625

        Goddamn unions...fucking things up as usual. I imagine there are plenty of Arena and ex-coolege players that would love the chance.



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        • fifth element
          Commando
          • Nov 2010
          • 1224

          Originally posted by BigBadBrian
          Goddamn unions...fucking things up as usual. I imagine there are plenty of Arena and ex-coolege players that would love the chance.



          lol...very good
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          • chefcraig
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Apr 2004
            • 12172

            Redskins suspend Haynesworth 4 games without pay

            (AP) – 5 hours ago

            WASHINGTON (AP) — Simmering all year, the antagonism between Albert Haynesworth and Mike Shanahan finally reached the boiling point Tuesday when the two-time All-Pro defensive lineman was suspended by the Washington Redskins coach without pay for the rest of the season.

            Citing a litany of acts that essentially add up to season-long insubordination, the Redskins suspended Haynesworth for "conduct detrimental to the club" and told him he's not welcome for the team's final four games — and making it extremely unlikely he will play for the club again.

            "Despite the club's numerous attempts to persuade Albert Haynesworth to abide by the terms of his contract, he has repeatedly refused to cooperate with our coaching staff in a variety of ways over an extended period of time," Shanahan said in statement released by the team. "Among other things, he has consistently indicated to our defensive coaches that he refuses to play in our base defense or on first-down or second-down nickel situations. He has also refused to follow the instructions of our coaches both during weekly practices and during actual games as well.

            "Yesterday, when Albert was at Redskin Park, he told our general manager Bruce Allen that he (Haynesworth) would no longer speak with me. Although suspending any player is not a decision that a head coach enters into lightly, I believe the situation has reached the point where the club clearly has no alternative."

            Allen informed Haynesworth of the suspension, the maximum permitted under the league's collective bargaining agreement. Haynesworth's agent, Chad Speck, said his client will appeal. Speck chided the Redskins for not giving any prior formal notice that Haynesworth's behavior was in question.

            "The accusations made by coach Shanahan and Bruce Allen are vague and without merit," Speck said in a written statement. "Since training camp began, today's notice was the first that Albert received informing him that his conduct was not consistent with the 'terms of his contract' as coach Shanahan claims. Bruce confirmed to me today, that there have been no other letters or formal notices of any kind sent to Albert during the regular season suggesting that he was engaging in conduct detrimental to the team."

            George Atallah, spokesman for the NFL players' union, said on Twitter: "All I can say at this time is that the NFLPA is reviewing the details."

            It wasn't hard to see this coming. Haynesworth and Shanahan have been going at it almost from the day the hard-nosed coach who won two Super Bowls with the Denver Broncos was hired by the Redskins in January.

            Haynesworth skipped offseason workouts because he didn't want to play nose tackle in the 3-4 defense the new coaches were installing, preferring instead to play in a scheme that would showcase his talent and help achieve his goal of becoming "the best defense tackle to ever play this game." Shanahan told Haynesworth to go find another team, contingent upon giving up a $21 million contract bonus due on April 1.

            Haynesworth didn't want to give up that much money, so he stayed on the roster and remained disgruntled. He boycotted a mandatory minicamp, drawing a $10,000 fine and searing comments about being "selfish" from defensive captain London Fletcher. He became a league-wide punch line when he needed 10 days to pass a conditioning test at the start of training camp.

            He complained about playing with the backups in preseason games. He received sympathetic words and support from Shanahan and the rest of the team when he missed a regular season game following the death of his half brother in a motorcycle accident, but he waited so long to return that the coach made him inactive for the following game as well.

            Then, last week, Haynesworth had a lackluster practice on Thursday, was late for a meeting on Friday and was also limited at Friday's practice because of an unspecified illness. Haynesworth denied a television report that he appeared "hung over" at practice, saying he had gone out the night before and went home early because he "wasn't feeling good."

            Shanahan made Haynesworth inactive for Sunday's game against the New York Giants, waiting until the morning of the game to announce the decision. Haynesworth likely wouldn't have made much difference in the 31-7 loss because he had become a marginal role-player, coming into the game mostly on passing downs because of his resistance to playing nose tackle in the 3-4.

            Still, Haynesworth's teammates were getting fed up.

            Defensive lineman Phillip Daniels called out Haynesworth on Monday, citing Haynesworth's lack of willingness to buy into the concept of team and the multiple practices Haynesworth has missed while others kept showing up despite illnesses and injuries.

            "Unfortunately, Albert's behavior has his credibility in question," defensive lineman Vonnie Holliday said. "This is my first year with Albert. Some of these guys are in their second year. For them, there's certainly a credibility issue. How many times can you cry wolf?"

            Haynesworth played in only eight games this season and didn't start any of them, totaling just 16 tackles and 2½ sacks. Holliday said he thought Haynesworth felt a "tremendous amount of pressure" to live up to the big contract and reach Hall of Fame level. Nevertheless, Holliday felt Haynesworth would eventually warm to defensive coordinator Jim Haslett's scheme, but it never happened.

            "He never really changed his mind," Holliday said. "He never really bought into coach Has and what he was trying to do with our defense."

            Haynesworth's agent, however, said his client wants to play more and cited several statistics to argue that the Redskins defense has played better when Haynesworth is in the game.

            "Albert has repeatedly asked for a bigger role in the defense," Speck said. "He simply wants to play and maximize his contribution to the team. It is unfortunate that he has not been utilized more."

            Haynesworth will not be allowed at Redskins Park for practices or meetings for the final four weeks of the season. The suspension will cost him about $847,000 in salary, a mere trifle amid the $41 million guaranteed in the seven-year contract he signed with the Redskins as a free agent last year after seven seasons with the Tennessee Titans.

            The player who infamously said "You're not going to remember Albert Haynesworth as a bust" on the day he signed the deal stands to become the biggest bust in Dan Snyder's 11 years as Redskins owner, quite an achievement considering the money overspent on underachievers such as Deion Sanders and Adam Archuleta.

            By suspending Haynesworth instead of releasing him, the Redskins keep him from getting what he might have coveted — a chance to play for a contender late in the season. However, it seems almost certain that the Redskins will have to try to trade Haynesworth in the offseason, although his trade value will have plummeted because other teams know Shanahan won't want him back.

            "It was a very volatile relationship to begin with," Holliday said. "Over the last several months, things have been adding up. The coach wants things one way, the player wants things a different way. It can cause a rift. It puts the players in a difficult situation."









            “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
            ― Stephen Hawking

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            • TFM_Dale
              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
              • Jan 2009
              • 7943

              That's what you get Haynesworth, Faggahan is still a douche but I agree with this.

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              • TFM_Dale
                ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                • Jan 2009
                • 7943

                A lawyer for former NFL star Lawrence Taylor has been granted a pretrial hearing next month to cross-examine police officers about Taylor's rape arrest.

                Taylor's defense claimed in a wide-ranging motion that his arrest was illegal because police did not have a warrant when they burst into his suburban hotel room in May. State Supreme Court Justice William Kelly granted the part of the motion that requested a hearing on whether any statements Taylor made upon his arrest were admissible.

                Taylor, who led the New York Giants to Super Bowl titles in 1987 and 1991, is accused of having sex with a 16-year-old prostitute. He allegedly paid the Bronx runaway $300. He has pleaded not guilty to third-degree rape, patronizing a prostitute, sexual abuse and endangering a child.

                The motion did not describe the statements he made to investigators. Court papers in a related but separate case say Taylor, 51, admitted to sex acts with the girl.

                The judge's ruling, dated Monday, was not publicly mentioned during a court session Tuesday and was not immediately filed. But Rockland County prosecutor Arthur Ferraro disclosed it afterward.

                "Everything that occurred was done properly and in full accordance with the law," Ferraro said of the arrest. "There was probable cause to believe that Lawrence Taylor had just had sex with a girl under 17 in that room."

                He said there are many instances where a warrant is not required.

                Defense attorney Arthur Aidala said outside the courthouse that Taylor believes his rights were violated and is looking forward to the Jan. 6 hearing.

                "There will be police officers testifying and being cross-examined to determine whether the circumstances under which Mr. Taylor gave his statements were constitutional," Aidala said.

                The judge denied the section of Aidala's motion that asked for the indictment to be dismissed and for any evidence seized in the hotel room to be suppressed. But Aidala on Tuesday persuaded him to accept further written arguments on the evidence question. Those papers are due Dec. 15.

                Taylor did not speak during the court session, most of which was conducted in secret at the bench. The Pro Football Hall of Famer also did not speak as he entered the courthouse, but he did sign an autograph for a fan with a Giants poster. He is next due in court Dec. 23.

                Both lawyers said they doubted a plea agreement could be reached before the pretrial hearing. Ferraro said Taylor had been offered a six-month jail term and 10 years' probation if he pleads guilty to a felony. He would have to register as a sex offender.

                Aidala has called that offer unacceptable.

                During an 18-minute sidebar conversation Tuesday morning at Rockland County Courthouse with prosecutors and Kelly, Aidala motioned to suppress all physical evidence found in Taylor's Rockland County Hotel Room the day he was arrested. He argued that Taylor's fourth amendment rights were violated when police illegally searched and seized items -- including condoms -- from his room at the Holiday Inn off Airmont Road in Montebello after they arrested him on May 6 for allegedly having sex with a 16-year-old girl.

                "That is the issue that Mr. Taylor is pursuing quite aggressively," Aidala said after the hearing. "They definitely did not have a warrant."

                Taylor, now a Florida resident, is also charged with misdemeanor counts of endangering the welfare of a child and patronizing a prostitute.

                The lawyer for pro football great Lawrence Taylor is asking the judge in Taylor's rape case to dismiss the indictment.

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                • fifth element
                  Commando
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 1224

                  he should just plead guilty to being a douchbag and be done w/ it.....

                  i wonder what kind of fines/penalties we could attach to that.....
                  “Nobody can go back and start a new beginning, but anyone can start today and make a new ending.” ~~Maria Robinson

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                  • Bob_R
                    Full Member Status

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 3834

                    Sorry Craig! Since the Dolphins and Jets are playing each other tomorrow.

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                    • chefcraig
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 12172

                      Originally posted by Bob_R
                      Sorry Craig! Since the Dolphins and Jets are playing each other tomorrow.
                      Don't sweat it. Half my team is out with some sort of injury or another.









                      “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                      ― Stephen Hawking

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                      • Bob_R
                        Full Member Status

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 3834

                        Originally posted by chefcraig
                        Don't sweat it. Half my team is out with some sort of injury or another.
                        LOL!

                        But, the Dolphins play well on the road.

                        The talk all around here this week is did the loss to the Patriots kill the Jets season? Is this 1986 all over again?
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                        • chefcraig
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 12172

                          Originally posted by Bob_R
                          LOL!

                          But, the Dolphins play well on the road.

                          The talk all around here this week is did the loss to the Patriots kill the Jets season? Is this 1986 all over again?
                          I don't see it that way. Granted, you have the Steelers & Bears on the road, but you also have us and the Bills at home. While Miami still has you guys and fucking New England on the road, with Detroit and Buffalo at home. Considering how banged up we are, I give the Jets the edge with us coming in 3rd in the division and missing the wild card.









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                          • fifth element
                            Commando
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1224

                            Originally posted by chefcraig
                            I don't see it that way. Granted, you have the Steelers & Bears on the road, but you also have us and the Bills at home. While Miami still has you guys and fucking New England on the road, with Detroit and Buffalo at home. Considering how banged up we are, I give the Jets the edge with us coming in 3rd in the division and missing the wild card.


                            was hoping your team would do better this year
                            “Nobody can go back and start a new beginning, but anyone can start today and make a new ending.” ~~Maria Robinson

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                            • chefcraig
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 12172

                              Originally posted by fifth element
                              was hoping your team would do better this year
                              Oh, tell me about it. We've been "rebuilding" since before Dan Marino retired. Our last Super Bowl was in 1985, and our last championship over a decade before that. The waiting gets kind of old after a quarter of a century.

                              And the same holds for Kansas City as well. So many years of "almost" getting there...









                              “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
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                              • Little Texan
                                Full Member Status

                                • Jan 2004
                                • 4579

                                I think Kansas City is getting there. They've had a breakout season this year, and with a few more pieces here and there, they could be Super Bowl contenders in a year or two. Although they are having a good season this year, I still think they are a year or two away.

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