Former Heavyweight Champion of the World, Smokin' Joe Frazier, has died...

[POJO_Risin]

There's been a couple of early reports that are saying Smokin' Joe Frazer, one of the true great heavyweights of all time, has passed away...

What a great fighter...

A big time hitter...and someone who wasn't afraid to take a hit...

Here's an Ali-Frazier interview...long after...

[POJO_Risin]

Well...the report I read has been pulled...

[TFM_Dale]

If it is true, rest in peace Joe, you will never be forgotten.

[lesfunk]

I remember seeing an interview with Frazier where he said (paraphrasing) "You see how Muhammed Ali is Now? I did that."

[POJO_Risin]

Now, his business manager is saying that he's going to send Frazier to Russia for some sort of miracle treatment...chripes...

here we go...

[Seshmeister]

The quacks that hover around taking the money of desperate dying people are the absolute scum of the earth.

[Kristy]

No, you are not in the minority. The fans of MMA to me seem like wrestling fans who now can say the sport they watch is real. I can't watch any of it or get behind any fighter. For fucks sake they have "the match of the decade" every other weekend it seems.

MMA is another way of selling mindless violence to America's ever increasing dumbed-down white trash. Two "Kung Fu Masters" in speedos and tattoos humping each other like you're watching some really bad directed gay porn. MMA is about thugs who can't get jobs as cops or even mall security so they resort to this pussy-ish kick and punch style of fighting which as no realistic bearing on martial arts. Now boxing....that was man's sport. Boxing is all about focus, discipline, and how to dance without getting your head knocked off. Boxing takes strength and stamina where MMA two creeps fall to the floor and profess their love for each other.

[TFM_Dale]

MMA is another way of selling mindless violence to America's ever increasing dumbed-down white trash. Two "Kung Fu Masters" in speedos and tattoos humping each other like you're watching some really bad directed gay porn. MMA is about thugs who can't get jobs as cops or even mall security so they resort to this pussy-ish kick and punch style of fighting which as no realistic bearing on martial arts. Now boxing....that was man's sport. Boxing is all about focus, discipline, and how to dance without getting your head knocked off. Boxing takes strength and stamina where MMA two creeps fall to the floor and profess their love for each other.

Lady, I have a college degree and work a full time job, I doubt anyone would consider me white trash and I watch MMA often. Funny thing is it is usually ignorant people that use generalizations to run down things they do not like themselves or just do not understand. You don't have to like or be a fan of anything you don't want to but dont judge me because I like something you do not approve of.

[Kristy]

It's not that I approve of MMA - that has nothing to do with it. It's not fighting, it theatrics for white trash. I myself studied martial arts for 11 years and have never seen such insulting displays of it being used. MMA is thuggery fighting, nothing more.

[clarathecarrot]

Simma, down Nah,.. Kristy. I will be there in the morning to soothe your wants, needs and desires.

Simma Down Nah!

I am sure your 105 pound ninja frame is all about brutal displays of aggression. I however, beg to differ.

I realize you have never addressed my posts personally I don't expect it now but Simmah Down Nah...

[clarathecarrot]

Joe was the best fight Ali had in my op.

I am not going to goggle wikki and post a bunch of bullsh!t..text fact, that makes you all think I am as everyone else in the world a expert on everything boxing all of the sudden.

I will say this before pay per view and after the invention of television boxing matches used to be broadcast like a tv show, free and live.

Frazier, Ali, Holmes, Cooney, and the other kings of the ring really layed down some fine exibitions of boxing, live in the 1970's and 60's .

If Frazier is checking out .... Rest in Peace I am a fan.

[jhale667]

I'm not a fan of MMA either...agree too much rolling around on the floor looking like they're dry-humping in speedos and not enough actual fighting.


Wishing Smokin' Joe the best, though...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I used to love boxing.... Sugar Ray Leonard was my favorite....

Leonard/Duran, Leonard/Hagler, Leonard/Hearns, all great fights....

But the older I get, the less that I get any enjoyment at all out of watching two guys beat the shit out of each other....

And as for MMA, that's unwatchable to me.... Not into it at all....

[lesfunk]

In my opinion, any sport where you can kick the shit out of a guy when he's down isn't really a sport.
I mean seriously. A guy gives his opponent a liver punch and while the poor bastard is rolling around on the mat gasping for air... The real ass kicking begins.
Pathetic

[clarathecarrot]

I watch MMA very rarely, flipping channels 2 min here or there, it has no interest to me ...here how it go..the people who watch that have never done that to anyone or had that done to themselves, or they are in that sport.

Once a guy is down you do not continue to brutalize him or you go to jail, in reality .

I am worried that people may think that a argument over some drunken bullshit may be percieved as, when he is down and the fight is over kicking him while he is down him is what people do .

Rarely do people have enough left in themselves after a real fight to signal a tap out, and if you notice the refferee has to let the winner know the looser is asking for mercy. This in myop is due to the trigered conflicts of fight or flight inherant is all humans if the reff wasn't there people would die .


Not at all like reality.

Boxing is a great athletic endeavor full of real skills,. MMA is also so are all disciplines of self defense.

Reality is much more devestating and is not represented in either sport.